Reality TV fanatic, Stephen Bailey is trying to prove to Radio 4 favourite, Zoe Lyons that there are so many life and societal lessons to be learnt from reality television. This week, Zoe makes Stephen very jealous by revealing that she recently worked with one of the stars of RuPaul's Drag Race UK and between them the discuss what you can learn about business from a true Queen! 

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