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  • S2 E10: The Art of Storytelling: Trey Callaway on Family, Film and Finding Your Story

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    In this episode, Trey Callaway delves into his roots in Oklahoma, tracing his passion for storytelling back to childhood influences from his creative parents and pivotal experiences like watching 'Star Wars' and being cast in 'The Outsiders.' Trey shares insights into his path from local advertising to USC film school, emphasizing the importance of following creative instincts and embracing artistic risks. He discusses his career milestones, the emotional highs and lows of the entertainment industry, the role of storytelling in personal growth, and the joy of collaborative creativity on set. Trey also reflects on parenting strategies that foster effective communication and emotional intelligence in his children. The episode concludes with thoughts on the future of storytelling in the age of new technologies and the personal and professional journeys that lie ahead.

    What We Explored This Episode

    00:00 Introduction to Trey and His Creative Roots

    00:33 Early Influences and Family Background

    02:36 The Star Wars Epiphany

    03:37 The Outsiders Experience

    06:16 Film School and Early Career

    07:44 Breakthrough in Hollywood

    10:48 Balancing Creativity and Practicality

    16:01 Parenting and Storytelling

    18:42 Teaching and the Importance of Sensitivity

    22:58 Navigating the High Stakes of a Creative Career

    28:34 A Friend's Hidden Talent

    29:39 The Anxiety of Artistic Exposure

    30:55 The Magic of Collaboration

    35:52 The Hard Work Behind the Scenes

    41:20 Parenting and Storytelling

    45:11 Personal and Professional Growth

    51:03 The Importance of Creativity

    Memorable Quotes

    "It's a moment of recognition as you sit at the end of the table surrounded by these various extremely talented people in their individual disciplines. . .of if I hadn't put these words on paper, none of these people would be sitting here."

    "As a creative person, you are by definition a sensitive person - most of all, sensitive to your own emotional state."

    "The dirty little secret of parenting that no one tells you until you’re a parent is that we’re all making it up as we go."

    Connect with Trey

    Website - begoodhumanspodcast.com

    Instagram - @treycallaway

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    1 hr 7 min
  • S2E9: You Make The Sun: Natalie Kuhn's Journey of Burnout, Belonging, and Becoming

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    In this episode, Paige engages in a dynamic conversation with Natalie, exploring themes of presence, mindfulness, and transformation. They share personal anecdotes about balancing professional and personal life, the significance of presence in various aspects of life, and the journey of navigating and managing stress. Natalie talks about her work with 'Make the Sun,' an initiative designed to help individuals meet their circumstances with vitality and aliveness, and her experience with 'The Class,' a movement-based workout that integrates emotional and physical expression. They also discuss Natalie's interfaith seminary studies, emphasizing a holistic and interconnected view of spirituality. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of internal practices like deep breathing and self-compassion to maintain balance and navigate life's challenges. The conversation is filled with warmth, humor, and deep insights into personal development and spiritual growth.

    What We Explored This Episode

    00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene

    01:02 Exploring 'Make the Sun' Concept

    03:42 Personal Journey and Early Influences

    06:23 The Role of Movement and Expression

    07:51 From Theater to Rock Bands

    10:38 The Birth of 'The Class'

    13:49 Leadership and Personal Growth

    22:43 Navigating Challenges and Change

    29:06 The Evolution of Acceptance and Stress Management

    30:14 The Concept of Rate of Recovery

    32:33 Self-Compassion and Avoiding Burnout

    38:01 The Practice of Belly Breathing

    44:26 Balancing Multiple Life Tracks

    47:04 Exploring Faith and Spirituality

    52:01 The Five Element Prayer

    54:56 The Universality of Human Connection

    58:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Memorable Quotes

    "It’s not a one size fits all thing. Physical patterns have created behavior – the physical body and our behaviors manifest each other."

    "I read this quote the other day that was a full mic drop, stop me in my tracks, life won’t be the same. And it was - you don’t have to burn out to show you care.

    Resources Mentioned

    The Class: https://www.theclass.com/

    David Byrne rockumentary: https://www.davidbyrne.com/explore/ride-rise-roar

    David Whyte, Author: https://davidwhyte.com/

    John O’Donohue, Poet & Philosopher: https://www.johnodonohue.com/

    Connect with Natalie

    Website - www.youmakethesun.com

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisnatalie/

    Instagram - @thisisnatalie

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    1 hr 9 min
  • S2E8: In Her Wildest Dreams: Romance Novelist Annabel Monaghan is Living a Love Story

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    In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, host Paige Nolan welcomes Annabel Monaghan, the bestselling author known for her uplifting romance novels, to share her inspiring journey from aspiring writer to published author at age 52. Annabel reflects on finding her authentic voice, the joy of connecting with readers, and the creative process that brings her beloved stories to life.

    The conversation explores how motherhood and life experience have shaped her writing, the supportive community within the romance genre, and the richness that comes from pursuing dreams later in life. Annabel offers valuable insights on embracing personal growth, balancing creativity with everyday responsibilities, and recognizing how wisdom and resilience make us more equipped for new endeavors.

    This episode is a heartfelt celebration of authenticity, second acts, and the transformative power of feel-good stories to bring more love, hope, and connection into the world.

    What We Explored This Episode

    05:31 Growing up in Los Angeles and early memories

    10:19 Writing Nora Goes Off Script during COVID

    15:30 Balancing motherhood and writing career

    21:22 Finding your authentic voice as a writer

    26:12 Creating relatable family dynamics in fiction

    31:30 Reflections on parenting adult children

    37:13 The supportive romance writing community

    43:05 Working with editors to improve manuscripts

    45:23 Wisdom and qualifications gained with age

    49:48 Possibility of Nora Goes Off Script movie adaptation

    Memorable Quotes

    "Whatever we're trying to do, if we show up as ourselves to do it, people relate to it more...we need to see authentic things. People speaking in their own voices."

    "It's been fun to figure out my own kind of writing...it's fun to be yourself and be at peace with it instead of thinking it could be something else."

    “You're never going to have as beautiful or as painful of a relationship with anyone you meet at 40 years old as you are going to have with the people in your family who you grew up with.”

    Resources Mentioned

    Headshot Photographer: @alisonrodilossophotography

    Connect with Annabel

    Instagram: @annabelmonaghan.com

    Website: www.annabelmonaghan.com 

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    55 min
  • S2E7: Unconventional Healing: Dana Childs on Spiritual Growth, Energy Healing, and Plant Medicine

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    In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, host Paige Nolan sits down with Dana Childs, an intuitive energy healer and author, to explore her remarkable journey from a career in corporate finance to a life devoted to spiritual healing. Dana shares her transformative experiences with plant medicine, including MDMA and psychedelics, and how these powerful tools awakened her intuitive gifts and reshaped her path.

    The conversation highlights the importance of self-awareness in cultivating intuition and the profound impact of integrating plant medicine insights into daily life. Dana challenges traditional ideas of spiritual hierarchies and the labels of old or young souls, inviting a more inclusive and compassionate perspective on spiritual growth.

    This episode offers an inspiring look at the rising interest in alternative healing modalities and the potential for plant medicine to help heal deep-seated traumas, reconnect us to ourselves, and foster genuine connection in an increasingly disconnected world.

    What We Explored This Episode

    05:35 Trusting intuition for major life changes

    12:19 Defining spirituality and spiritual seeking

    24:44 Dana's work with energy healing and intuition

    32:19 Tapping into your own intuition

    35:32 Evolution of Dana's healing practice over time

    43:50 Importance of integration after plant medicine experiences

    52:02 Why plant medicine is gaining popularity now

    55:20 Self-care practices for healers and practitioners

    57:24 How Dana's views on spirituality have evolved

    59:36 Closing reflections on healing and intuition

    Memorable Quotes

    "Spirit tends to be really clear when you set clear intention. And so if you start going down the path where you're using the plant medicine to escape something or to get away from something, it usually will not be a pleasant journey."

    "So when you're on that kind of journey and you know you're looking for something else, I think the tip I would give here would really be pay attention to what you're pulled to and attracted to. And don't go in the mind to judge it and make sense of it. Just open."

    Connect with Dana

    Facebook: @danachildsintuitive

    Instagram: @danachildsintuitive

    LinkedIn:@danachilds

    Twitter/X: @danachildsintuitive 

    Website: www.danachildsintuitive.com

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    Mentioned in this episode:

    LFH Promo 2025Apr19

    1 hr 6 min
  • S2E6: Celebrating Fatherhood: Chris Rose and Boyd McDonnell on Modern Dad Life

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    In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, host Paige Nolan celebrates fatherhood in a heartfelt conversation with her husband Boyd and their neighbor, veteran sports broadcaster Chris Rose. Together, they reflect on their personal experiences as dads, exploring the joys and challenges of raising children in today’s world.

    The conversation highlights the evolving role of fathers, emphasizing emotional presence, mentorship, and the value of everyday moments. Chris and Boyd share insights on youth sports, navigating career paths, and the delicate balance of work and family life. They explore how shared passions like sports and food create lasting bonds and meaningful memories.

    This episode offers a touching tribute to heart-centered fatherhood and the enduring impact dads have on their families and communities.

    What We Explored This Episode

    05:08 Chris Rose's early life and education

    10:54 Chris's journey into sports broadcasting

    18:28 The importance of mentors in career development

    23:06 Chris's approach to youth sports coaching

    32:18 Fatherhood and being present for your kids

    38:54 Chris's perspective on youth sports culture

    45:16 The problem with early sport specialization

    53:16 Family bonding through shared interests

    59:54 The emotional journey of kids leaving for college

    Memorable Quotes

    "You only have one chance to be a parent at that specific time, and you don't know if you miss that time when your kid needs you the most"

    "It doesn't matter what it is. I think the joy is that when you're engaged with something that your kids can engage with, it's so inspiring, like to have young people like at your table and in your life."

    "As a coach, I always thought the two most important things were obviously, to teach kids that it is fun, but there's times to work, there's times to be serious, there's times to be silly."

    Connect with Chris

    Instagram: @crose127

    Youtube: JMBaseball

    Connect with Chris

    Website: 21southmusic.com

    Instagram: @boydmcdonnell/ @21southmusic 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/boyd-mcdonnell-5193567/

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    1 hr 5 min
  • S2E5: Motherhood as a Shared Story: Rebecca Thompson’s Path to Healing, Connection, and Family Life

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    In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, host Paige Nolan engages with Rebecca Thompson, MD, author of "Held Together: A Shared Memoir of Motherhood, Medicine, and Imperfect Love." They discuss Rebecca's journey through medicine, motherhood, and writing, emphasizing the power of intuition and listening. 

    The conversation highlights the book's unique structure, intertwining Rebecca's life-threatening experiences with 21 other stories from patients, friends, and colleagues. Themes of resilience, vulnerability, and the universal nature of family life are explored. Rebecca shares insights on balancing professional and personal life, the importance of storytelling, and how shared narratives foster healing and connection. 

    This episode offers a heartfelt exploration of how stories can unite us and the profound impact of listening and compassion in both medicine and personal relationships.

    What We Explored This Episode

    05:04 Rebecca's path to medicine and writing

    10:45 Beginning of Rebecca's motherhood journey

    16:50 Crafting stories for the shared memoir

    23:40 Resilience as persistence, not just "rising above"

    29:25 The power of listening in doctor-patient relationships

    35:05 Intuition comes from cumulative experience and listening

    41:26 Finding common ground through shared stories

    48:36 The meaning behind the book title "Held Together"

    Memorable Quotes

    "That is such a huge issue in our society comparing ourselves and finding ourselves unworthy and inadequate and I want these stories to be an antidote to that because.... this is how we compare to find what we have in common and that is what stories can do for us"

    "In family life, it’s the same idea – we’re digging holes – we’re breaking, disrupting, knowing and trusting we will come there and plant something different... give something up in the name of becoming something else and something bigger"

    "Stories are the most compelling thing in life, truly. They can capture experiences in a way that no data can. Held Together captures..... watch them grow and see ourselves grow"

    Resources Mentioned

    Rebecca Thompson’s book “Held Together: A Shared Memoir of Motherhood, Medicine, and Imperfect Love.”

    Connect with Rebecca

    Website:https://www.rebeccanthompson.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-thompson-md-msc-99458a65/ 

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    Mentioned in this episode:

    LFH Promo 2025Apr19

    1 hr 3 min
  • S2E4: Career, Motherhood, and Reinvention: JoAnne Lord’s Journey to Sustainable Fashion

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    In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, host Paige Nolan sits down with JoAnne Wannarashue Lord, founder of Mali + Lili handbags, to explore the intricate balance between career, family, and personal wellness. JoAnne recounts her journey from a corporate fashion executive to a successful entrepreneur, highlighting the pivotal moments that shaped her path. Their conversation touches on the challenges of maintaining a thriving career while nurturing a family, the impact of health struggles, and the inspiration behind her cruelty-free handbag line. 

    JoAnne shares valuable insights on the importance of adaptability, the power of relationships, and the lessons learned from both supportive and challenging mentors. She reflects on her upbringing, the influence of her immigrant parents, and how these experiences have informed her approach to life and business. This episode offers a compelling look at how passion, resilience, and self-care can lead to a fulfilling and balanced life.

    What We Explored This Episode

    05:16 Childhood messages and immigrant parents' influence

    10:22 Corporate career and balancing family life

    33:44 Organic growth and partnerships for Mali + Lili

    39:52 Balancing business responsibilities with wellness

    45:34 Reflections on career path and future possibilities

    52:28 Sustainable practices and current inspirations

    54:57 Passion for fashion despite business challenges

    56:21 Valuing relationships and living with intention

    Memorable Quotes

    "Positioning myself with the right people is essential for continuous learning and growth in my business."

    "Entrepreneurship is a constant hustle, filled with behind-the-scenes work that many don't see. But I love the never-ending excitement it brings, the challenges that push me to grow, and the satisfaction of building something meaningful."

    "Finding mentors and people who believe in you is crucial for learning and growth in the corporate world. These connections help you navigate challenges and seize opportunities that might otherwise be missed."

    Connect with JoAnne

    Website: www.maliandlili.com 

    Instagram: @mali.and.lili

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    Mentioned in this episode:

    LFH Promo 2025Apr19

    1 hr 2 min
  • S2E3: Rabbi Steve Leder: Journeying through Grief and Growth to Gratitude and Impact

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    In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, host Paige Nolan engages in a heartfelt conversation with Rabbi Steve Leder, a prominent rabbi and author, to discuss the profound themes of life, loss, and resilience. Rabbi Leder shares his personal journey from a challenging childhood in Minnesota to becoming a leading voice in the grief space.

    Their dialogue delves into the complexities of grief, the dualities of life, and the transformative power of embracing one's vulnerabilities. Rabbi Leder offers insights into the importance of showing up authentically for others and the role of betrayal in moving forward after loss. He reflects on his experiences with loss, including his father's death, and how these moments have shaped his understanding of life’s beauty. This episode provides a deep exploration of how embracing life's challenges can lead to a more meaningful existence.

    What We Explored This Episode

    5:06 Childhood and Family Background

    13:26 Reflection on Father's Death

    22:12 Importance of Human Connection During Grief

    26:06 Job's Suffering and Faith

    39:00 Jewish Summer Camp Experience

    47:59 Ancient Wisdom and Modern Problems

    1:00:08 Embracing Life After Loss

    1:15:49 Empty Nest and Life's Challenges

    1:19:02 Life's Beauty in Slowing Down

    Memorable Quotes"After 40 years of standing on a front doorstep before I go into the home where someone, a loved one has died, after 40 years, I don't know what I'm gonna say. All I know is I have to walk through the door, show up and be real.""Betrayal is a necessary component of reemerging and embracing life.""If human beings were deathless creatures, life would have absolutely no meaning or purpose. No one would have ambition. No one would get married. No one would have children."Connect with Rabbi

    Website - https://steveleder.com/

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/RabbiSteveLeder

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/steve_leder/

    Twitter/X - https://twitter.com/Steve_Leder

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    50 min
  • S2E2: Getting the Lesson: Jeff Livingston on the Powerful Pathway of Education

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    In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, our host Paige Nolan sits down with Jeff Livingston, an education expert and former Harvard student, to explore the transformative power of education as a pathway out of poverty. Jeff shares his journey from small-town South Carolina to becoming a leader in education innovation, drawing from his own experiences and family history.

    Their conversation touches on the evolving landscape of higher education, the importance of diverse experiences in college, and the potential of AI to revolutionize learning. Jeff challenges conventional thinking about college majors and career paths, emphasizing the need for adaptability and lifelong learning. His reflections provide a thoughtful examination of how technology can democratize education and create more opportunities for all.

    What We Explored This Episode

    05:23 Jeff's South Carolina roots and family history

    12:09 Grandmother's impact on education values

    24:27 Jeff's journey from Wall Street to education

    29:04 College attendance vs. graduation rates

    37:32 Privilege and inequality in higher education

    46:38 Developing durable skills for an uncertain future

    52:51 Aligning passion with natural abilities

    56:32 Optimism about AI and technological revolution

    1:01:46 Hope for future generations and progress

    Memorable Quotes"That faith in something she knew she was denied, that faith that I could acquire it, I would get it – did you get your lesson, Jeff – that’s what created this life for me. Understanding how important education is to those who have been denied it has been driving my career forever."“I think that education, a good education, leading to college and a well-paying career is the one proven, scalable, repeatable pathway out of poverty I have seen.”"The gift of college is to live really close to people who are not like you, go meet some people different from you and in those connections that we begin to create the kind of community that makes this American experiment of democracy possible.”Connect with Jeff

    Website: www.edsolutions.com  

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-livingston-8812a91  

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sahjeff/

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    1 hr 7 min
  • S2E1: Letting It Fall: Amy Wilson's Lessons on Embracing Uncertainty

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    In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, our host Paige Nolan sits down with Amy Wilson, author of Happy to Help, to explore the complexities of being a helper and overachiever, especially for women. Amy dives into the cultural expectations and personal struggles tied to constantly taking on responsibilities and fixing problems, offering thought-provoking insights from her book.

    Their conversation touches on the challenges of worry, perfectionism, and the importance of self-compassion. Amy emphasizes the need to create space, embrace uncertainty, and accept imperfection as part of life. Her reflections provide a thoughtful examination of how to balance the desire to help with maintaining personal boundaries and well-being.

    What We Explored This Episode

    05:07 Juggling life's responsibilities: When does it start?

    11:14 Childhood experiences shaping helper mentality

    18:29 Worry's role in over-helping and motherhood

    24:32 Changing family dynamics through writing process

    30:26 Relationship challenges and perfectionism tendencies

    36:09 Worry as a badge of good motherhood

    42:16 College admissions process complexities for parents

    48:36 Learning to let conflicts exist without explanation

    54:05 Conclusion: Creating space for change and uncertainty

    Memorable Quotes"It's a neat trick that we do both take on the work of caring so much for everybody around us and buy into the idea that it's because we're just better at it. And then when we say, wait a minute, I don't think I can handle this, to be told back that it's our fault for making it this way."“We take on so much of this. If only I was a better person, if only I could work on this part of myself. We just so readily accept that there is some failing in us that's causing our lives to be unsatisfying. You need help, a redistribution of the situation.”"Leave more space for things. I'm going to pause and wait and see what happens. That's the path to change.”Resources Mentioned

    Happy to Help:  Adventures of a People Pleaser by Amy Wilson - https://www.amywilson.com/

    Natalia Imperatori-Lee - https://manhattan.edu/campus-directory/natalia.lee

    Connect with Amy

    Website: https://amywilson.com 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amywlsn/ 

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/amywlsn 

    Listen to Amy’s Podcast: https://www.whatfreshhellpodcast.com/ 

    Connect with Paige

    Website - https://paigenolan.com/

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

    🎙️

    Music by Boyd McDonnell

    Cover art photography by Innis Casey

    Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

    1 hr

About I'll Meet You There

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Life is not about knowing more – it’s about being present to your lived experience. We often believe the answers will come when we acquire more knowledge. However, there is a knowingness that can be found right where we are. When we trust the wisdom in life itself, the path forward is revealed. Maybe we are just here to share and experience the journey together.