This is what Shawna admits has been going on in her mind. It’s the human struggle. But because of the Spirit we’re fighting a battle we CANNOT lose. It’s a conversation about how we break free from the thoughts that are tearing us down.

Then, Perry’s trying to make sense of the Nashville shootings. There’s just one thing that’s helping him. Next, Shawna’s dad’s birthday was Tuesday. His 2nd in heaven. It’s been hard. It’s been good. And “His Story,” the song Shawna’s daughter Haven wrote has been really helping.

Then, Perry admits, “I can be so thick-headed and driven and intense that I miss how God is trying to help me!” Last, who are you at your core?  A wretch? Perry and Shawna think it’s something else. It’s a conversation about our core identity and how God feelsabout us.

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