Rob Hopkins is a champion of imagination, and he does something radical in these times: he helps people imagine a good future.

Not a utopia, nor a dystopia, but the kind of rooted, realistic, multi-faceted, creative and juicy future that can draw us toward it.

He’s found that frightening people with charts about climate change isn’t as potent as inviting them into what they’d like to see… and hear, and taste, especially in the near future. What would it be like to inhabit the future you really want? What is the role of story in moving toward that succulent future?

Rob is the co-founder of the international Transition Town Movement, the host of the podcast From what is to what next? and the author of numerous excellent books. Our conversation was lively, uplifting, challenging and funny.

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People Rob mentioned whom he’s inspired by, with some links to get started learning about them:

Adrienne Maree Brown

Walidah Imarisha

Mariame Kaba

Rasheedah Phillips: Black Quantum Futurism

The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson

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