We dive into the burning question on every federal HR leader’s mind: What’s next for the federal workforce? The Internal Revenue Service just cut 6,700 jobs—less than half of the original 15,000 slated for layoffs—after an intense internal review. Former ODNI Chief Human Capital Officer, Dr. Ron Sanders, joins the show to break down how the IRS leadership tackled these painful cuts and what other agencies can learn from the process.

Sanders, now President and CEO of Public Virtu, explains the delicate dance between career staff and political appointees in navigating these unprecedented workforce changes. He argues that agency leaders must assert control over their own workforce decisions, rather than bowing to external pressures. We also discuss the broader implications of workforce reductions across government and what role Congress will play in shaping future headcount targets.

Plus, with AI-driven workforce management and high-profile agency shake-ups—like OPM shutting down its procurement shop—Sanders warns that these are just the “baby steps” in a long-term transformation of the federal workforce. Where does trust between political and career leadership stand in this shifting landscape? And how should federal employees respond to direct calls from top leadership?

Stay tuned for Fed Gov Today TV this Sunday at 10:30 AM on ABC 7 in Washington, where we’ll explore how moving the Postal Service to the Commerce Department could play out. And don’t miss next Tuesday’s podcast, where we tackle protecting AI applications from cyber threats with the Government Accountability Office’s Tina Won Sherman.

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