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In a World...where most people live there lives unaware of the forces at work around them, one man will find himself with no memory of who he is or was. Moving on with his life, he finds peace, until his old life desperately seeks to drag him back for his own nefarious purposes.
This episode contains the improv games Gibberish Switch, Old Job New Job, Pardon, Countdown, and Cutting Room.
Show Notes:
About This Episode
In this episode, we pay homage to the genre of "Amnesia Thrillers." You know the movies, where a hero wakes up with no memory of their previous life, and the slowly discover that they used to be a very dangerous person involved in very dangerous things. Some movies in this genre are The Bourne Identity, The Long Kiss Goodnight, and the TV show Absentia (which Avish keeps referring to as "Amnesia" - whoops!).
We make some changes on the fly to our improv game list and end up having a lot of fun being commentators at the world cup as player after player is taken out...
Links
The Bourne Identity on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bourne_Identity_(2002_film):
The Long Kiss Goodnight on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Kiss_Goodnight
Absentia on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absentia_(TV_series)
Time Codes
Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:53
Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:53
Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 17:27
Start of show: 24:35
Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 26:00
Improv Game - Old Job, New Job: 28:57
Improv Game - Pardon: 40:41
Improv Game - Countdown: 51:27
Improv Game - Cutting Room: 56:11
End of show, into announcements: 1:09:53
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Transcription of the "Discussing the Genre Tropes" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: Without further ado, then we will begin with segment one.
Avish Parashar: Right now we're going to spend five minutes discussing the tropes cliches commonalities of this genre so i'm going to set my little timer i'm still here on the duck I know at some point, I said I switched from the duck but I did not yet.
Michael Worth: I like the duck the duck.
Avish Parashar: Nothing.
Avish Parashar: You know what some variety, though.
Avish Parashar: All right, five minutes starts now all right, you want to kick us off when you think of the tropes of this type of.
Michael Worth: email or what do you think so it's actually a fairly small cast you've got the main character, which is of course the amnesiac um.
Michael Worth: The main character, has a series of skills that are highly specialized and very uncommon.
Michael Worth: This is kind of the triple that what the skills will be will probably be part of the funny and it's at this particular one um there's usually the main character is there there's a second secondary characters are as follows.
Michael Worth: The person or small group of people that rescue and slash nurse this person back to health, so it could be like a family could be you know, like just a person.
Avish Parashar: off at a love interest.
Michael Worth: yeah there's a love interest that emerges somewhere in there, like if it's a family, maybe, like the eldest daughter falls in love with him or you know this assuming it's a guy because it could be a girl, but whatever i'm.
Michael Worth: The major secondary character is the villain that wants this guy back he either wants this guy back or dead yeah i'm.
A pursuer.
Avish Parashar: For what the pursuer like there's a person trying to get me or whatever is they're trying to get the the main character right.
Michael Worth: And the pursuer will oftentimes have access to a couple things one is still have access to like good surveillance technology and like kind of like assets, you know, like he can he can.
Michael Worth: spy on the guy or he can you know, like use like you know drones to like figure out where he is and then he also has access to like you know just warm bodies to throw the hero right he's got like.
Avish Parashar: yeah and I would say this kind of movie though you get the almost the triangle so sometimes you get like.
Avish Parashar: The villain villain but then you also may have like the government or authorities who are trying to recapture slash track this person down or like i'm born.
Avish Parashar: The government is trained born, they thought he went road they're trying to get him back with them they're also like bad guy so that could be like.
Avish Parashar: i've got that also bad guys but, like the others a combination, or maybe within the authorities there's like the rogue faction that wants in debt versus the other people that just want to save him so there's a lot of times as like a triangle is like two groups of bad guys.
Michael Worth: Are antagonist exactly, and you know I think honestly there's not too many tropes right there is a the other trope is well let's talk a little bit about how the skills are revealed.
Avish Parashar: And yeah.
Michael Worth: What the skills are because that's kind of a very common thing I mean you can just you just say, maybe, just as easy as they're always when their emotions are always access assassins are always exercise.
Avish Parashar: yeah if we're going with the thriller genre that the skills yeah always like violent.
Avish Parashar: You know, and so one of the trope says they get forced into a situation where they have to use their skills and all of a sudden, they reflexively like almost kill somebody.
Avish Parashar: yeah is one drove I think I don't know if it always happens, but a lot of times like there's there's like bread crumbs in mystery so like.
Avish Parashar: They come across something that looks familiar or someone recognizes them on the street and they're like why I don't know who you are so there's like these weird like little little hints at who they are yeah.
Michael Worth: And it almost always culminates in.
Michael Worth: The hero, the here's the question does the hero end up at the end of the movie remembering who he or she is to the memories come back or do they kind of.
Michael Worth: Because, at the end if they do at the end they take the fight to the boss, is part of the trope and they kind of free themselves in a good movie unless you try to build a sequel at the end, the hero has kind of freed himself from whatever.
Michael Worth: marionette strings are hanging from either he eliminates the organization that wants to dead or he convinces the organization that wants to backlit he's dead.
Michael Worth: The question is, does he do it, while remembering, who is old self is or is it almost like he's a new man with old skills new skills, this new way, because I think you can go both ways with.
Avish Parashar: I think you can go I think in the born in the board book he doesn't really remember who he is.
Avish Parashar: or your another good SCI fi example of this is total recall is like.
Michael Worth: Yes.
Avish Parashar: You scored like I mean that's he's because he went in the recall machine but same thing he's like discovering all this stuff, so I think I think I go either way but yeah I agree that whether or not he gets full access or not.
Avish Parashar: He remembers enough and then kind of makes that choice to completely defeat the people who were trying to stop him recapture him kill him whatever yeah.
Michael Worth: Exactly and.
Avish Parashar: Usually some bigger plot as well, like they're after him or her, because they know something or they have like like the access codes to something like there's something about them that they have, or they know or like you know before they got amnesia they hit the the.
Avish Parashar: Nuclear launch key or something and like yeah.
Avish Parashar: The try to get them back for that exactly.
Michael Worth: And that's the other part of the tropes, and this is a good thing, the villains are competent, the villains, are in a true thriller they're competent now, of course, we can Fuck with it because it's our.
Avish Parashar: it's our podcast it's the car, it could be.
Michael Worth: grossly but in general uh you know jace the main character has to play their a game to outsmart defeat the villains, but the villains are defeated but they're not like definitely empire.
Avish Parashar: yeah alright so that's our town had one other thing to add is that.
Avish Parashar: I think, often what happens is that the.
Avish Parashar: When the main character learns about who they were they were not a good person it's almost always like they did bad things.
Avish Parashar: Now they're like their new lease on life and I realized that they're like living a good life and being a good person, but before turns out, they were an assassin or a villain or you know.
Michael Worth: something bad, yes, yes, exactly good job good.
Transcription of the "Creating the Outline" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: Fantastic which brings us to segment to.
Avish Parashar: Right now we are going to spend five minutes and it creates a high level outline based on the tropes we just.
Avish Parashar: went through we're going to use a four act structure to tell our story it's like set up reaction proactive conclusion and just quick note.
Avish Parashar: we're not this is improv comedy So this is the outline we're going to start with, we may veer from it significantly but we're going to come up with a rough outline, so I minutes now cool.
Michael Worth: I think she'll prologue not a trailer.
Avish Parashar: Okay, so for those listening, for the first time we usually start with either a prologue or a trailer I agree, I think prologue would be good for this.
Avish Parashar: Car so then what's going to happen in the prologue is.
Avish Parashar: We may see a glimpse of this person in their life in their like what what leads them to having amnesia is often what happens like we see them almost get shot or get in the car accident or we could see like the villains, and their big picture plot type thing.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah i'm doing one of those two things we'll figure that out.
Avish Parashar: Okay cool so.
Act one.
Avish Parashar: So here we meet the hero kind of in their life.
Avish Parashar: In their quote unquote ordinary life right.
Michael Worth: Now, do we want or what will sometimes happen is, we will be introduced to the hero in act one by having them be rescued.
Michael Worth: meaning they washed up on shore and his family takes them in right or like the family's driving through the woods pump a campsite they're like oh my God there's this body in this guy's like all scratched and maybe he's got some some nice food.
Michael Worth: yeah so.
Avish Parashar: I feel most are like that long kiss goodnight was not but bourne identity is amnesia is, I feel a lot of them do start with the discovery of the person.
Avish Parashar: yeah yeah.
Avish Parashar: Or that could be the prologue so yeah yeah so.
Michael Worth: One of the ordinary ordinary life.
Avish Parashar: or alive kind of see them, but I think we, I think we need to meet the villains here right like we have to see.
Avish Parashar: Maybe I would say at the end of the actors, were the main antagonist discover where they were and what this person is yes.
Michael Worth: Oh, by the way, do you know you don't have a great example of one that does what you're talking about where we start by beating the ordinary life history of violence with viggo Mortensen.
Avish Parashar: There yeah.
Michael Worth: that's another lesson classic one yeah cuz he starts off he literally is like a Deli owner owner owner.
Avish Parashar: yeah I haven't seen a long time yeah remember it started like you didn't know.
Avish Parashar: They kind of set it up, so you think these people are incorrectly after him and then you're like oh no there yeah yeah he's.
Michael Worth: yeah that's really good that's really good viggo Mortensen could do no wrong he's amazing.
Avish Parashar: Well yeah aragorn the bomb.
Avish Parashar: I think, also maybe the hints we talked about like.
Avish Parashar: An act one like the purse something happens and maybe the person uses their skills.
Avish Parashar: Which is often the thing that tips off the bad guys like there's a news report about this person that like you know rescued a kid from a burning building and then they're like oh wait that's sorry so and so yeah.
Avish Parashar: I think they use their expert skills somehow in this act one.
Michael Worth: So the end of act one, the main antagonist shows up and there's that initial encounter it's either a direct face to face encounter or to them kind of discovering and maybe learn again doing surveillance or something like that.
Avish Parashar: yeah yeah they get kind of.
Avish Parashar: put on the case yeah then brings back to, so I think Act two is when the this is kind of the main characters quest to discover who and what they were they start like researching a little bit and like trying to learn what they were before their amnesia yeah.
Michael Worth: yeah totally do that okay cool.
Avish Parashar: um but they're very unclear very foggy for them like they're not like Oh, I must be to govern operative they're like wait a minute like here's a key to a safety deposit box, let me go see what's in there and oh my God it's like God what the hell is that now, at this point.
Michael Worth: The years in reactive mode one of two things happen.
Michael Worth: Either either the bad guy organization tries to kill him for the first time, because he can't be left alive right, so the first attempt that is life happens.
Michael Worth: Or the first pressure attempt to get them to do work for them where they're like you know he comes like he comes back in like two of the members of the family are being held hostage or something and it's like hey listen you got to tell us where.
Avish Parashar: Oh yeah right so yeah they do like a hostage and they're like oh you got to go use your expert skills that you don't remember to go do this.
i'm.
Avish Parashar: The course to do something clients yeah either work for them, or you know hey you know you have our diamonds bring to us and we'll let your family go or something like that.
Michael Worth: yeah that kind of stuff you know so there's there's definitely an attack on the hero either to attack with the hospital force compliance or to tack on his life.
Avish Parashar: yeah and then at the end of Act two is like I think they they learned some critical piece of information about who they were.
Avish Parashar: Like they may not remember it but they learn like that they were a government operatives they were an assassin, or they were you know slip and slide or whatever they learned yeah exactly no APP three.
Michael Worth: it's going to kind of be one or two things it depends on what i'm actually liking, the idea of of the the bad guys kind of holding people hostage to comply him to like you know.
Michael Worth: finished whatever mission, he or he so at three is him proactively solving the conditions that created the hostages, meaning if the hostages were there, because you had to.
Michael Worth: get this diamond that you had hidden somewhere he goes back and he finds the time and he overcomes trials and traps to get it right so.
Michael Worth: Yes, at three is him removing the barriers to remove the hostage situation.
Avish Parashar: Right and he's re acquiring we learning remembering those skills as he's going through this process right.
Michael Worth: And then, if know how obvious you want to be, since you went up and reading and prefer storytellers, the answer is going to be very obvious.
Michael Worth: For his he.
Michael Worth: Rescue he knows he's going to get portrayed so he basically takes it to the villains breaks the back of the villain organization or no kills the main villain rescues the hostages and disappears kind of thing.
Avish Parashar: yeah yeah oh I gotta say our plot yeah.
Michael Worth: So at four is takes down shadow org.
Michael Worth: rescues hostages.
Avish Parashar: And then, and then disappeared disappears who's on with their life or whatever.
Michael Worth: we're gonna have an epilogue we've never had an epilogue before.
Avish Parashar: You have an epilogue.
Michael Worth: gonna disappear disappears there we go.
Avish Parashar: Alright, so that brings us I think that's a pretty good outline so that brings us to the end of that.
This is a BONUS episode as a follow up to our MCU / Superhero movie Homage, "Hedgehog-Man." We had special guest Craig Liggeons on that episode and we talked for so long that we just couldn't fit it all in to the main episode. So here is the entire 45 minute long conversation we had with Craig - it was a ton of fun and we hope you will enjoy it too!
Craig's Links:
FACEBOOK – www.facebook.com/craig.liggeons
TWITTER - @CraigLiggeons
INSTAGRAM – Craig Liggeons
In a World…where there are heroes and villains, and mysterious forces that people will never fully understand, one simple college student will find himself transformed into…Hedgehog-Man! Welcome to the debut movie of the AMCU: The Avish and Mike Cinematic Universe!
This episode features the improv games Two-Word Typewriter, Best of Times, Worst of Times, Newsroom, Cutting Room, and Pardon.
This episode also features our friend and fellow improviser (one of the founding members of the Improv group we started way back in 1996), Craig Liggeons! While Craig doesn't do any improv with us here, he is a pop culture expert, huge movie and comic book fan, and co-host of the Comic Book Gurus Podcast. As such he is the perfect guest expert to discuss MCU movies with us!
More About Craig:
FACEBOOK – www.facebook.com/craig.liggeons
TWITTER - @CraigLiggeons
INSTAGRAM – Craig Liggeons
About This Episode:
In this episode, we pay homage to one of our favorite genres: Marvel Movies! That's a pretty broad genre, so we niched it down to small-scale origin stories. Mostly Ant-Man, but also Spider-man and a few others.
Links:
Ant-Man on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant-Man_(film)
Spider-man on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_(2002_film)
The MCU on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe
Time Codes
Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 06:40
Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 34:19
Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 40:48
Start of show: 45:59
Improv Game - Two-Word Typewriter: 48:23
Improv Game - Best of Times, Worst of Times: 56:21
Improv Game - Newsroom: 1:06:03
Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:15:31
Improv Game - Pardon: 1:28:56
End of show, into announcements: 1:32:40
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In a World...where some people need to push just a little farther, higher, and faster to live life on the edge...one man will get drawn into a world few ever experience. Torn between duty, justice, love, and the need for the adrenaline rush only a mega slip 'n slide can bring, Detective Jensen will find himself...Climbing Intensely Down…
This show features the improv games Scenes Without the Letter, Gibberish Switch, Questions Switch, and Cutting Room. Plus some mad cap slip 'n sliding - and otters!!
About this EpisodeIn this episode, we pay homage to adrenaline fueled, undercover police, "got a little too close," action movies like Point Break, The Fast and the Furious, Terminal velocity, and more!
We play some fun improv games and somehow the "adrenaline activity" ends up being extreme slip 'n sliding!
Oh, and we completely mix-up the Charlie Sheen skydiving movie (Terminal Velocity) and the Wesley Snipes skydiving movie (Drop Zone). Whoops!
LinksPoint Break on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Break
The Fast and Furious on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fast_and_the_Furious_(2001_film)
Terminal Velocity on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Velocity_(film)
Drop Zone on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_Zone_(film)
Time CodesSegment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:56
Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 11:34
Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 16:26
Start of show: 23:20
Improv Game - Scenes Without the Letter: 25:40
Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 30:24
Improv Game - Questions Switch: 38:54
Improv Game - Cutting Room: 52:15
End of show, into announcements: 1:06:38
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Mike's site: www.MikeWorthMusic.com/
Transcription of the "Discussing the Genre Tropes" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: This brings us to segment one.
Avish Parashar: All right now we're gonna spend five minutes discussing the tropes commonalities and cliches of this genre i'm going to set my little duck timer here for five minutes hello, the duck timer and away we go all right Mike why don't you kick us off, especially since it's fresh.
Michael Worth: In your mind why don't know.
Michael Worth: As Bourbon fresh that can be um so the trump's of this particular genre is it's always a young, law enforcement officer in point break it was obviously.
Michael Worth: FBI and for terminal velocity I think it was FBI as well anyways The point is, there is a vexing series of crimes that happened that have some sort of.
Michael Worth: cool hiccup to them like either they are the criminals either dress funny or they break in and an interesting way and nobody can figure them out there, like super super professional and.
Michael Worth: one cup kind of notices something about them, that makes him think that they're not your typical criminals so that's kind of the the first trip is there's like some sort of.
Michael Worth: reveal like I think in terminal velocity like left behind, like some polymer and the polymer is that kind of stuff you'd use in a parachute or something like that you don't mean like.
Avish Parashar: yeah point break.
Avish Parashar: Just based on the schedule of the break ins are like we think these guys are running backs to fund their surfing habits.
Michael Worth: Right exactly and then one of them had a when they move the camera they have like a clear.
Michael Worth: surfing line like when they when they move the cameras.
Avish Parashar: yeah.
Michael Worth: So for 10 so that's the the big trope now what that means is that basically um the young COP has to go undercover into this adrenaline filled sport that these robbers are kind of engaged in.
Avish Parashar: yeah and he usually like he just gets in with one crew and then by chance that crew happens to be the criminals, but he doesn't know at first he just like trying to get into that world, so it looks up some people.
Avish Parashar: And then they think like oh this other gang is probably it, but then turns out that's not it like an employee goes red hot chili peppers wherever it.
Is.
Avish Parashar: it's.
Avish Parashar: A chili peppers right, I was like yeah this is Anthony kiedis and flee I don't know about the other two.
Michael Worth: yeah.
Avish Parashar: that's awesome so, then you get you get the sequences where he has to like prove his worth.
Avish Parashar: and learn kind of the.
Avish Parashar: drag racing the surfing skydiving whatever right.
Michael Worth: Right now, in point break and I think, also in terminal velocity the coach is usually the love interest.
Avish Parashar: I was like helping him, does he was like two people right there's like a mentor figure like a vin diesel and Patrick swayze.
Avish Parashar: yeah who's kind of mentoring to to be, but then yeah there's like someone who you're really green, let me teach you and that's like a love interest but, like a love interest the mentors like the head of the bad guys.
Michael Worth: yeah exactly so um now here's the question that I have for this kind of trope does the.
Michael Worth: Good guy witness a crime or is he already or does he become one of the criminals first look i'm trying to remember, if, like like.
Avish Parashar: hey go either way and that'll probably come out but yeah there's usually like a mid movie crime.
Avish Parashar: yeah that he's he's using involved in right maybe accidentally he doesn't want to be, but protect his cover or you know I think like.
Avish Parashar: You know the love interest.
Michael Worth: yeah I think.
Michael Worth: yep yep i'm like yeah that's what happens is you kind of perfectly gets involved he doesn't want to, but to keep his cover yes to kind of join up with it right.
Avish Parashar: yeah and there's always like the whole part I the whole point of this is that, even though he's undercover he starts to get drawn both the the activity, and especially to like the mentor like he really.
Avish Parashar: feels a connection there and see them as a friend like almost like families these very conflicted about like doing his job at stopping them versus like hey this has become my friend and buddy.
Michael Worth: I was gonna say that that's a big critical part is is he starts to kind of when he dances with monsters, and he becomes the master starts to look like you know, family and friends so exactly.
Michael Worth: um and then the final act now uh I didn't finish point break last second I fell asleep, but does the bad guy bad the shadow mentor or the bad guys.
Michael Worth: up the ante and F3 forcing the good guy to make a decision like does the Gary busey character get killed or something like that, because sometimes that happens where they the the team ratchets up to some level unacceptable crime.
Avish Parashar: And the good guys like Well, no, I think there's a couple ways to go, I think.
Avish Parashar: I think either yeah they ratchet up the crime, and I think that kind of happens in point break I forget exactly what the shoots bore there's like a third.
Avish Parashar: group or something, and so, like the bad guys that the heroes close to.
Avish Parashar: Still, a criminal but it's sort of redemptive like I think in both important break like kiana let's.
Avish Parashar: Patrick swayze surf away I think yeah I think I forget we kind of hang out at the end, but like vin diesel I think gets away so there's like that the bad guys get stopped, but I think the main mentor guy kind of gets away or the hero, let them get away.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah exactly and then I think um I think the people that we want to play i'll play PG were like the criminals do end up getting arrested.
Avish Parashar: not killed listed like maybe the main guy gets like.
Avish Parashar: The other thing I think that's critical to this genre is a.
Avish Parashar: fun thing.
Michael Worth: To do it's.
Avish Parashar: it's our crack know is part of it is like pulling behind the curtain, so you really learn about the world of drag racing or skydiving or surfing so there's some minutiae in there about the culture and.
Avish Parashar: The activity and.
Avish Parashar: To an outside observer it's almost ridiculous right like I live my life quarter mile of a time and.
Avish Parashar: You know the the obsession they have with surfing like so it's all it's kind of over the top there's like a.
Avish Parashar: Like they're not actually playing it for laughs, but I think part of the appeal of like a point break this many years later, is it's sort of ridiculous.
Michael Worth: It really is over the top espn ridiculous the over the top soundtrack is also a ton of fun like.
Avish Parashar: Oh yeah.
Michael Worth: Oh God it's great man it's like you know funny enough, you know weird way top gun has some elements of this point break because of the adrenaline junkie kind of thing more of.
Avish Parashar: It I just don't have the undercover bit, but yeah the adrenaline junkie the whole that whole thing is there and don't worry, we are on episode coming.
Michael Worth: Oh baby I.
Avish Parashar: went to the other depending when this drops maybe the top episode already came I don't.
Michael Worth: Whatever so.
Michael Worth: This is.
Michael Worth: This is not citizen kane or you know touch of evil you.
Avish Parashar: Know it's.
Avish Parashar: it's barely Harry and the hendersons.
Michael Worth: speed of which.
Michael Worth: An awful thing improvising a movie the style of chinatown oh God oh.
God.
Michael Worth: alright.
Transcription of the "Creating the Outline" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)Avish Parashar: So that brings us to segment two.
Avish Parashar: Alright, so now we're gonna spend five minutes hashing out a high level outline number one we use a four act structure similar three x we just split the log act three into two parts and.
Avish Parashar: This is the outline we're going to roughly follow but improv being what it is we may abandon it here on.
Michael Worth: to it, who knows exactly it's.
Michael Worth: Our rights.
Avish Parashar: Alright, so now the duck timer for five minutes.
Michael Worth: Yes.
Avish Parashar: And away we go.
Avish Parashar: Alright, so we often start, we always start with either prologue or trailer yep.
Michael Worth: The prologue could be a them doing their first crime right that could be like kind of like.
Avish Parashar: We don't actually meet the hero, we just see the crime.
Avish Parashar: I think that's good.
Michael Worth: To prologue yeah.
Avish Parashar: prologue short prologue with the crime yep.
Avish Parashar: Just one we got to meet our hero main character yep.
Avish Parashar: We got it he's got to learn about the crime and then that oh it's it's probably you know these type of people yep.
Michael Worth: So, so in act one he'll probably end up getting paired with a senior guy that's where he discovers because he's a new he's a new law enforcement so pair with the senior guy who's been tracking the crimes and then figures out.
Michael Worth: Oh it's probably like you said this particular adrenaline junkie team right.
Avish Parashar: And then he's got a I think act one kind of ends with him.
Avish Parashar: meeting and getting in with the team, so we can meet them and then maybe as a past whatever little like initiation type test like Oh, you know show us, you can search for shows this you know kind of yeah they kind of sort of passively accept him into the group.
Michael Worth: yeah exactly yeah yeah, but at this point he they none of them knows anything about anybody else but they don't know he doesn't know that there, possibly the criminals, they don't know that he's an FBI agent or.
Avish Parashar: yeah he just trying to meet some you know surfers and.
Avish Parashar: and get it with them, so he does yep then an act to I think this is where maybe you get like the red herring like the red hot chili peppers thing.
Avish Parashar: where he thinks he knows who it is and he's sort of investigates and he's also learning more about the craft of this activity and getting more ingratiated with the group.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah I agree a hill also make enemies and allies within the group there's going to be one guy that doesn't like him.
Avish Parashar: Oh there's always want to do it, it doesn't trust them or like i'm yep.
Michael Worth: yep and.
Avish Parashar: oftentimes it's like the acts of the.
Avish Parashar: romance.
Michael Worth: romance interest yes and it's like the second in command usually right it's almost it yeah second in command right yeah lieutenant so that's going to be the tests allies and enemies portion right.
Avish Parashar: cold I think act to will end right around with him discovering that his group is the.
Avish Parashar: bad guys yep yep exactly.
Michael Worth: So at three is going to be him drawn into the committing of the crimes while at the same time trying to get enough evidence or find a way to bring them to justice so he's he's going deeper into the rabbit hole right.
Avish Parashar: yeah I think also didn't happen is maybe somewhere in act three enact at the end of Act two he discovered that this is the gang but maybe he doesn't have enough evidence right, but then in act three the gang discovers that he's an undercover COP.
Michael Worth: And now there's no yeah yep.
Avish Parashar: they're going to force him into their plan otherwise they're gonna expose him kill him kill the love interest whatever mm hmm yep that's it that's.
Michael Worth: All these are all correct everything you say is correct, so act for is the final crime final heist or whatever it's going to be a with the hero trying to you know escape the snarl that they've been trapped in for the crime and bring everyone to justice.
Avish Parashar: yeah I feel like act, I mean there's two ways of going either act for can be him, no longer part of the group and trying to stop their crime or at for can be him part of them kind of.
Avish Parashar: times I feel like I can point break I feel like.
Avish Parashar: Act for was like a separate thing I don't I never saw the end in a long time so.
Michael Worth: I must be basically be the final crime, however, that plays out there can be a file crime yep.
Avish Parashar: And he's also to an extent I think he's got to deal with his conflict of saving his reputation as a cop stopping the crime but also dealing with his own emotions about the appeal of this adrenaline activity in groups.
Michael Worth: So much character nuance in this kind of film I, who would have thunk it.
Avish Parashar: I know.
Avish Parashar: Like Hamlet baby dimensions.
Michael Worth: Oh, my God dimensions baby, let me tell you this this depth depth.
Avish Parashar: I mean it's pretty straightforward there's got to be, and it does have a little bit of nuance between character interaction and kind of you know, some of the, how do you get out of the situation, but overall it's pretty straightforward yeah.
Avish Parashar: This is not rocket law enforcement guy.
Avish Parashar: got to go into the group gets in with the things there okay discovers they're bad they discover scenes a cop, then big finish yep.
Michael Worth: Clarity and high jinks ensue all right good we're ahead of ahead of the duck let's do it.
This episode features the improv games Countdown, Superheroes, Last Letter, First Letter, Alibis, and Cutting Room.
About This Episode
In this episode, we pay homage to those 90's style hip slasher movies, specifically Scream. Mike and Avish both love Scream (and Avish loves all these types of movies) and they actually saw the original together way way back when. This episode is a of fun and a pretty direct homage/parody to Scream. Wes Craven would be proud…we think…if he liked improv comedy…
Links
Scream on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scream_(1996_film)
Time Codes
Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:54
Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 15:48
Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 23:00
Start of show: 30:30
Improv Game - Countdown: 33:09
Improv Game - Superheroes: 36:15
Improv Game - Last Letter, First Letter: 45:20
Improv Game - Alibis: 53:00
Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:00:20
End of show, into announcements: 1:20:13
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Transcription of the "Discussing the Genre Tropes" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: Alright, so now we're going to spend a few minutes talking about the tropes and whatnot but we're kind of if you listen this podcast for a while, you know we spend five minutes kind of diving right into what are the tropes of the genre.
Avish Parashar: we're going to modify this a little bit maybe talk for a little bit longer but also talk about just kind of our experience and what our thoughts are on this genre and how we came across it and through that the genre tropes will come out.
Avish Parashar: of time here.
Michael Worth: yeah apparently as we jump in everybody seems to like hearing about how we fell in love with this movie or what our experiences were when we first watch this movie so that's kind of where the thrust of this is.
Avish Parashar: yeah and this movie I love this movie screen is one of my favorite horror movies, and I like horror movies, I think you don't like horror movies, as much but uh.
Michael Worth: I don't like horror movies categorically unless it's a really good horror movie and then I love it so no obvious what is it that made scream awesome for you, because you've watched Friday the 13th you've watched nightmare on elm street you've seen what are some other.
Michael Worth: classic ones like classic slash are.
Avish Parashar: slash one's a Halloween.
Avish Parashar: nightmare on elm street you know the supernatural sounds like the omen, the exorcist the shining sure.
Avish Parashar: So we have what I like about scream and and it's funny I saw this in the theater I think we actually saw it in the theater together.
Avish Parashar: And this is, I think this is this is where I learned an interesting little trade of mike's that when he when he gets scared me because he's a musician.
Avish Parashar: When he gets scared he starts to cover his ears.
Michael Worth: I plug my ears.
Avish Parashar: were sitting in the theater and I kind of glance over to new bands like coming up with your fingers are going into here.
Michael Worth: But I can't I can't not watch i'm still watching it, I was like a scary sound my brain.
Avish Parashar: So when I what I loved about it, I mean a when this came out just the kind of it was hip right like the the characters were like funny there was interplay.
Avish Parashar: They were fodder, like any other kind of teen slasher, but it was like just the dialogue was fun and sharpen witty yeah um and what was cool about screen was that when you look at it, it was actually different in a few ways one is that number one is no supernatural element to it right.
Michael Worth: Sure it's a classic bad guy with with weapons.
Avish Parashar: yeah and through all the franchise's like the all the other movies, the killer, even if they started human like Halloween or Friday 13th we're not like.
Avish Parashar: ended up becoming ridiculous and supernatural and screen was always just like I remember seeing screen what astonished me was like when.
Avish Parashar: When when the bad guy got hit or punch do you like got hurt oh.
Michael Worth: yeah like when cities fleeing from him he likes slams the door knocks down the stairs or you kind of like gets gets he gets hit and flips horizontal lands like lucky you got like a shoulder.
Michael Worth: yeah you know, like human.
Avish Parashar: yeah acted human.
Avish Parashar: So I love I love that element of it um you know, obviously the The self referential you know the scary movie that plays into scary movie tropes was pretty cool you know the the old drew barrymore opening is just iconic.
Michael Worth: Oh okay so let's talk about like like was it Clive Barker West craven.
Avish Parashar: wes craven.
Michael Worth: yeah the rest in peace man that guy was a frickin champ.
Michael Worth: Like they what was so cool that it was they turned the the tropes of the genre on their head from the get go so first of all okay when drew barrymore's on the phone and it's like then she finds out that he's watching what's what's the quote it's like because i'm watching you right.
Avish Parashar: I want to know what i'm looking at.
Michael Worth: i'm looking at yeah and you're at all thats dark shit but remember when she breaks out, and he comes in stab Sir, as opposed to the 70s and 80s, they don't pull the camera away with a knife hits they want to show.
Avish Parashar: Oh yeah it's pretty good.
Avish Parashar: ready for today.
Avish Parashar: It is yeah it's pretty graphic and brutal.
Michael Worth: yeah but but also done with the directors, I it wasn't done just to be like splatter Gore, it was like no, you want to be like, no, no, this is not your typical slashing but we're gonna we're gonna play with this a little bit you know um.
Avish Parashar: yeah and the.
Avish Parashar: And the twist like the whole thing with with slasher movies, and like the Mike myers and Jason things like they could kind of sort of magically appear like you'd be running and they'd be walking.
Avish Parashar: did that, like that the killer would just appear, and it was like such a brilliant twist.
Avish Parashar: You know spoiler if you haven't seen the first 120 years ago like having two killers it just like right to that point, I mean i'm sure there's some more obscure movies, but like in a mainstream movie like that, having the killer be two people was.
Michael Worth: super super cool and very elegant itself so many problems it's solved well how could, how could the boyfriend and killed when he was there ah right, how can the killer get ahead of them ah.
Michael Worth: Right, you know it was really elegant um and the the the acting was really good it was it was a lot of like the whole 90s not brat Pack.
Avish Parashar: That kind of like you know, like those have been commerce yeah.
Avish Parashar: yeah drew barrymore's like resurgence right you've kind of been yeah I wouldn't get a great subversion she didn't know she'd been hitting the sauce pretty easy days they got it again.
Avish Parashar: But it was a great but that's the thing biggest name, one of the biggest names in the movie at the time and she's on the poster prominently.
Avish Parashar: yeah and they kill her off in the first 10 minutes, that was a huge like.
Michael Worth: Oh, my God stuff great stuff so let's talk about what another great thing about this movie, which is a big.
Michael Worth: raising the bar the quality of the characters here the actors really good Courtney Cox is a surprisingly good job frickin eight legged arachnophobia.
Avish Parashar: David arquette I don't think is a very good actor, but he was like he was like.
Avish Parashar: Perfect for this role he was.
Michael Worth: Was this character's name it was doing Oh, do we and and but they all look the writing, for they were just such a funny.
Michael Worth: connectable memorable characters you know, like Courtney Cox played the whole determine reporter really well doing with this gorgeous aw shucks kind of guy you know, like thing and.
Avish Parashar: It had like like I said I had that like like horror comedy wasn't like a horror comedy in that the horror wasn't funny the horror was like horlick the.
Michael Worth: screen evil dead, which is really comedy with.
Avish Parashar: Right, but in between the scary stuff the interplay the dialogue and all that, like the all the duty stuff is ridiculous and the fact that every time he came on screen they played the broken arrow.
Avish Parashar: yeah yeah like its own theme was.
Michael Worth: It was it was it was a.
Michael Worth: lone gunman the opposite of the lone gunman.
Avish Parashar: Oh yeah he was terrible.
Avish Parashar: trivia i'm not sure if this is true, but I heard that in the original script he died um but.
Avish Parashar: Oh people liked him so much that they.
Michael Worth: brought back all.
Avish Parashar: They came alive.
Michael Worth: yeah but he's.
Michael Worth: limping because he had, like all this.
Avish Parashar: girl cuz yeah I was just smart he got nerd there.
Avish Parashar: And then, at the end of screen to to keep him alive when they're willing i'm out you hear the background the medic say Oh, he had so much scar tissue it saved it.
Michael Worth: stopped this stuff tonight.
Michael Worth: um So what do you think of this a little bit granular but what do you think of the knife as the as the main murder weapon for the screen God he do you like that kind of.
Avish Parashar: Every everyone's gonna have like a different weapon and I guess to this point, it was like a hunting knife right, it was like.
Michael Worth: yeah it was a Bowie knife basically.
Michael Worth: yeah I liked it, I was wondering if he was going to do the Jason thing where it's like everybody gets a different death, but that was his kind of thing right there was the the.
Michael Worth: i'm going to be a little bit martial arts nerdy for a second the knife is a particularly gruesome now that i've killed anybody with a knife.
Michael Worth: Yet not yet, or at least in no way they could prove that I have but it's a very intimate way to attack somebody you got to get real close like.
Michael Worth: A baseball BAT you've got to like pretend you're hank Aaron you got like it's a really grim way to kill somebody because you are like literally holding them in place it just like poking their insides with basically your.
Avish Parashar: Hand yeah.
Michael Worth: So it's a pretty cool weapon and it gets dark like it gets you know that kind of thing.
Avish Parashar: yeah there's not any real like they don't go too crazy with any of the death, other than i'm rose McGowan and getting kind of crushed by the garage door is the only like everything else.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah it was yeah it was a pretty much a straight death and again very earthy and real right.
Michael Worth: Like and also by the way, they also explain away by having up to athletic teenagers why the killer was actually in pretty good shape it's like I remember when I was young and fit.
Michael Worth: yeah do shit like that, like I could just like get knocked off a staircase and who cares because i'm 15.
Avish Parashar: Right yeah.
Avish Parashar: And how they could do some of the more physical stuff like stringing up the body in the beginning and whatnot it's like.
Avish Parashar: Well there's two of them yeah yeah yeah.
Michael Worth: Two athletes, you know.
Avish Parashar: So the other thing that I liked about scream that was different.
Avish Parashar: And you know I think this will probably use in our show is that i'm screen, other than the slasher movies, up to this point had a mystery element to it because.
Avish Parashar: Like in the all the other slasher movies, the killer someone outside the group right Mike myers Jason.
Avish Parashar: Never.
Michael Worth: Even I know she did last summer it's like the dude yeah.
Avish Parashar: yeah in this one, it was one of the one or two obviously of the group, and so.
Avish Parashar: Like.
Avish Parashar: it's not like all this random killer we got to get away from them as like ooh there's a random killer which one of these people is the killer yeah.
Avish Parashar: In addition to us.
Michael Worth: So one night werewolf kind of thing or a mafia cost component to it right.
Avish Parashar: yeah and that you know, and then a lot of the movies, you know, because this obviously was game changing.
Avish Parashar: Almost genre defining so many movies came out like this, you know I know what you did last summer yeah I was outside, but like urban legends was one where I get one of the people is the bad guy.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah I think final destination, that was notes with death, but.
Michael Worth: yeah, but it also part of that idea of like the the hip group of it also changed the hip group of teenagers from sex loving idiots at a at a at a resort to like actually intelligent hunted pray you know.
Michael Worth: yeah and, yes, they still play the SAS company in fact in this movie they've acknowledged the silliness like don't don't lose your virginity or else your target.
Avish Parashar: Right yeah yeah and, as you know, after a what's her name is Jeff Campbell yes finally yeah she died when she gets attacked and and Randy at the end lives because he was a virgin so.
Michael Worth: Randy Randy, so this is a great a lot of fun us riffing this off and it's good because I haven't seen screaming about three years so i'm a little rusty it was my fault i've had a lot of work, this week, a lot of boost a drink.
Michael Worth: But this this is reminded me of all the good stuff I think really that's I mean the, the only thing that we can't really just doing a podcast I mean just the cinematography is great.
Avish Parashar: camera work with it what's what's Korea good luck in movie.
Michael Worth: what's best for him and he just.
Avish Parashar: answered so.
Michael Worth: He does yeah this was this was really a great resurgence, to the popular I have West craven because you know, he was nightmare on elm street, but he kind of fallen into obscurity as.
Avish Parashar: Hard even left a serious because it it kind of gone down a lot of what he he may have done another movie or to be coming back.
Avish Parashar: I mean, this is the guy That was our timer, but that was the guy who did I mean one person came up with nine, oh no nightmare elm street and scream is that's pretty.
Avish Parashar: yeah yeah impressive yeah.
Exactly.
Michael Worth: So now you, dear listener have learned about how we experience this movie and loved it.
Avish Parashar: yeah and through that we got a lot of the tropes and stuff out so this brings us now to.
Transcription of the "Creating the Outline" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: Creating the outline so now taking the information and I love this movie and things we've we've mentioned we're going to hash out a high level outline for this movie.
Avish Parashar: we're going to use a four act structure, and this is the starting point we're gonna make this a rough outline, but then it's improv comedy so we may veer from it.
Michael Worth: We reserve the right to change any and all things because we don't care.
Avish Parashar: Exactly.
Michael Worth: Our show our show.
Avish Parashar: Our show.
Michael Worth: Our show David.
Avish Parashar: Alright, so a five minute timer starts now so.
Michael Worth: First i'm going to do trailer on a prologue come on.
Avish Parashar: Well, maybe.
Avish Parashar: I always say.
Avish Parashar: prologue right because, like like in scream it's a prologue essentially right like there's no main characters you just see someone getting killed by the bad guy so um I would say either one could go, we could do a trailer like seeing the first death that's kind of that.
Michael Worth: We have that we not commit.
Michael Worth: To anything for the next four minutes and 55 seconds.
Avish Parashar: decided the end, whether we want trailer.
Michael Worth: Is act one as simple as the first death and we meet the the main party is it as simple as that.
Avish Parashar: yeah I think so um so.
Michael Worth: So that first death will happen in act one because that sets the tone for the killer right.
Avish Parashar: yeah if it's not we don't do a prologue than the first death would be in the first act, and then we got to meet the cast of characters.
one.
First, death.
Avish Parashar: And that cast will be mostly teams, with a couple of dollars like teachers COPs parents, whatever.
Michael Worth: Sure sure I like the idea of you know what let's i'm just gonna write down teacher and a cop only because that'll help me to kind of guide my little improv brain, you know kind of thing again we may not admit that teacher made up becoming a reporter, and maybe come to a public calendar.
Avish Parashar: yeah something completely random.
Michael Worth: The account did.
Michael Worth: We must kill the accountant.
Michael Worth: He knows too much right so that's pretty easy now, how does the group understand there's a killer out is it was one of the first death is from the Group.
Avish Parashar: yeah it's from the group or someone else in the group knows yeah again if it's if it's school high school, university it's like a student dies, and everyone obviously finds out.
Michael Worth: OK, so now you to act two.
Avish Parashar: yeah Act two is where.
Michael Worth: You need help me on screen.
Avish Parashar: yeah and I did just just I think an act to you know, the main character is a little bit wary but.
Avish Parashar: I think something happens in Act two where they get attacked or becomes personal for them so they're kind of just going about their life, a little bit wary, you know, trying to stay safe like in screams Sydney gets attacked at her house.
Avish Parashar: yeah out of nowhere and you see that in a lot of the movies, in the second act like.
Michael Worth: Best justification reincorporation ever have the two doors that jam each other.
Avish Parashar: Oh yeah.
Michael Worth: That was like a chekhov's gun moment I was like what I thought I was like oh it's going to be worked in somehow I don't know I don't have it, I was like oh that's a corporation.
Avish Parashar: So I would say the main character gets attacked.
Michael Worth: You know what i'm going to take a step back, but you she will get attacked but, but here, he whenever.
Michael Worth: It gets personal like the main character realize the killer has some vested interest in killing the main character, like you said, an act one it's like oh there's a killer out index was like there's a killer out and he's looking for me.
Michael Worth: Right or right so that's really, really good i'm at this point in time, because we're dealing with scream we play the the suspicion game too.
Avish Parashar: yeah I was about to say an act to the attack it's personal and I think.
Avish Parashar: You start to explore a little bit about the suspicion how everyone's a suspect yeah.
Avish Parashar: So then.
Michael Worth: Do we want it no I won't I won't jump into yeah it's gonna have the improv.
Avish Parashar: it's not a big deal so maybe it's excellent yeah.
Michael Worth: A in apt to listen to more people die.
Avish Parashar: Oh, they can, I think, in a movie probably yes in our improv.
Avish Parashar: probably know, I think, an actor, he is where.
Avish Parashar: I think actually a lot of the secondary characters.
Avish Parashar: Oh yeah a lot of suspects, I guess.
Michael Worth: let's decks and bodies their.
Michael Worth: bodies and X real build a wall man build a wall bodies i'm at the same time.
Michael Worth: here's boy, this is going to be tough, for us, the seeds of the identity are planted in APP three but they're not revealed to act for.
Avish Parashar: yeah and and, in fact, a lot of the people who you think might be the killer die in act three it's.
Avish Parashar: Like.
Michael Worth: i've already scared of this.
Avish Parashar: So in that in the original scream act three is when they're at the party and other people are being killed off like like the friend whatever name was tatum yep and things like that.
Michael Worth: And then be right back.
Avish Parashar: yeah and then act four is when it kind of becomes Sydney like just Sydney because in oh in act three like the camera man dies, and you know gail and do we get kind of knocked out.
Michael Worth: yeah.
Avish Parashar: And so, then X four is where it kind of becomes a little more Mano a Mano like it's basically just and we're mostly saying female because these movies late cameras almost always a female.
Michael Worth: Female we want to Jennifer love Hewitt was in that one and.
Avish Parashar: alicia wit was in a urban legends and yeah sometimes it's not but usually it's a female extreme.
Michael Worth: Just do a girl come on.
Avish Parashar: yeah so.
Avish Parashar: So act for becomes like an action sequence, and not just like one fight it's like there's a lot of like chasing and trying to get away trying to set track like.
Michael Worth: And and there's a stocking meaning like there's a little bit of a fight to chase and she hides and then there's the taunting where he.
Michael Worth: where he really reveals some of his plot and there's another little fight and there's a little bit of count, you know so it's going to be this kind of like.
Avish Parashar: Fight talking was that.
Avish Parashar: Was it oh God, I remember, was it screamer scream to where she hides in the car but goes face has the key and so she likes all the doors and she can't see him and then suddenly like the one door unlocked and she'll run over and slam it.
Michael Worth: Now screen.
Avish Parashar: Okay, but that's.
Avish Parashar: sort of that that stocking that cat and mouse thing.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah exactly good stuff right so.
Avish Parashar: All right.
Michael Worth: All right, that's.
Avish Parashar: that's pretty straightforward, I mean these movies it's mostly what comes out within the and that's our timer.
Avish Parashar: So that most of it comes out, so the one thing we didn't quite figure out is beyond to a trailer to set the movie up or do you want to do a prologue where we do the first death and then act one is more just kind of meeting the people.
Michael Worth: throw it back to you because you just saw screen, so you kind of know what you want to do, for your vibe what are you feeling, what do you feel today on this.
Avish Parashar: I think that.
Avish Parashar: I think I think the whether we do a trailer prologue I think the death should be separate from the meeting of the casket it's almost two separate seems completely.
Avish Parashar: So we can either do.
Avish Parashar: The as the prologue or do a thriller and do.
Michael Worth: let's do the first death as a prologue and we can do.
What do we do it was a death in a minute.
Avish Parashar: yeah we can do death in a minute.
Michael Worth: Or we can even do diminishing returns death.
Avish Parashar: Oh, that could be fun.
Avish Parashar: Right now.
Avish Parashar: yeah so.
In a World....where plastic waste has so overwhelmed the world that people are forced to live in domes and live off the slugs that cover their bodies, one police officer will be transformed into something more than human.
This movie is a tale of loss, gain, plastic, slugs, violence, revenge, and redemption. And improv comedy...
This show contains the improv games Gibberish Switch, Emotional Lists, A to Z, Pardon, and Cutting Room. There's also lava, salt, and champagne. Plus two bad accents.
Show Notes:
This episode is an homage to Dystopian Future Action movies like Robocop. We are both big fans of the classic Robocop movie, and that comes out in this episode. Some truly bizarre and entertaining things happen in this show and we think you will enjoy it!
Links
Robocop on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop
Time Codes
Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:07
Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:56
Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 19:24
Start of show: 28;01
Improv Game - Gibberish Switc: 28:25
Improv Game - Emotional Lists: 30:42
Improv Game - A to Z: 40:07
Improv Game - Pardon: 51:07
Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:03:01
End of show, into announcements: 1:25:03
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Transcription of the "Discussing the Genre Tropes" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: segment one discussing the genre tropes.
Avish Parashar: All right now we're going to spend five minutes discussing the tropes cliches and commonalities that you find in this genre of movie so i'm gonna start my five minute timer.
Avish Parashar: and go all right mikey why don't you start us off when you think of this kind of movie what are some of the things that come to mind.
Michael Worth: Well, the first thing is, is that it's almost always an urban environment okay so you're gonna be doing that because you want that kind of like.
Michael Worth: i'm always gonna see like shadow run squalor right there's definitely an element of society that's kind of in its final stage of decay right so decaying society.
Michael Worth: And there's a huge gap between the squalor and the rich in this that just kind of.
Avish Parashar: that's kind of the big thing it's like and almost every one of these movies.
Avish Parashar: A there's a very, very low income disparity is a very small group of very rich very powerful people a mega powers in this is almost always is always like corporations and they're always evil right Google.
Avish Parashar: sheets with the government and the police are like kind of owned or sponsored because a lot of these like robocop go into satire and political commentary about like.
Avish Parashar: Where you know capitalism run a muck could lead, so they always are running man is very much kind of like that right, like the society at least like a running man.
Michael Worth: And demolition man.
Avish Parashar: demolition man is a really.
Avish Parashar: good example here I think that's gonna be one of the sample ones, when I finish this podcast episodes robocop and demolition man.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah those those are great with that it's it's funny and run everything.
Michael Worth: And they are evil in terms of like ends justify the means complete narcissism you know just whatever so how is our hero now here's the trope.
Michael Worth: there's almost always a hero that comes out of this but they're almost always engineered by some facet of this society they don't just like stand up like.
Michael Worth: They look like i'm sly and demolition man when he was carbon froze and then he was thought out to by society it's not healing trained harder something he was like.
Avish Parashar: He is not just a normal.
Avish Parashar: it's not just like you know it's like a modern day police procedural where it's like Oh, you know, Martin riggs is really good because, like a normal guy yet so it's a it's guys from a different time this guy was almost killed so we turned him into a half robot or assign more.
Michael Worth: Engine yard yeah yeah.
Avish Parashar: JESSICA Alba and dark angel is like genetically engineered so yeah there's.
Avish Parashar: enhance or there's given like a special equipment and Armor right like like all those TV shows we talked about so right yeah but there's like an enhanced it's an enhanced Cuban who is usually I think almost always a cop like it's almost always is or was a police officer yeah.
copper military.
Michael Worth: will do that, and I think we should play that in this in this improvised movie or much I think we should play the idea of the enhanced human that's what a lot of fun for like our games and stuff like that.
Avish Parashar: yeah and they could be.
Avish Parashar: They almost always work or at least start out working for the police or for the government like it's it's not like knight rider right where it's like a shadowy figure dangerous quest.
Michael Worth: looks like had a good yeah.
Avish Parashar: yeah like this, like all right, you know you are a police officer, but you're super COP no.
Michael Worth: No, right now, at this point in the game, the first thing they do, if you want to get a little granular with the movie and the tropes.
Michael Worth: there's always going to be, and it could be jumping ahead but that's okay there's always going to be a moment where you get to see all the cool.
Michael Worth: or a chunk of the cool abilities this guy has or girl, you know, like you get see the enhanced speed or like in robot cups of thing his his special gun is targeting computer in judge dredd you could see him with with the what's it called the war master or the the the bicycle.
Michael Worth: The psycho he has and he's like super cool gun that has like 30 different types of ammo so that definitely happens because you want to showcase at this guy or girl is is above and beyond the kind of normal people.
Avish Parashar: yeah and that's a lot of times that's like in the earlier part of the movie when they're kind of first rolling out going through the fodder you the cannon fodder like random thieves and narrow wells.
Michael Worth: yeah just grinding through the.
Avish Parashar: Meat grinder of this, you know.
Avish Parashar: Now, so the bad guy is often someone who don't people don't know is a bad guy like.
Avish Parashar: You know, like a corporate head or something, but you know they're implicitly or secretly doing something really bad.
Avish Parashar: oftentimes they've got some kind of usually the bad guys Plaid has some sense of like exploiting.
Avish Parashar: The lower class even more like you know we're gonna blow up this entire section of the city, so I can build my condominiums or i'm gonna harvest human organs to sell to make these other things are.
Michael Worth: yeah in many ways he's kind of like the old.
Michael Worth: silent film like land Baron.
Michael Worth: You don't need where it's like.
Michael Worth: That yeah I think publicly they're always on the up and up it's always like oh it's Senator so and so he's sponsoring all this, you know environmental rehabilitation and his company has been feeding blah blah blah what he's really doing is he's got this down.
Michael Worth: This nefarious plan that you know, and this is where the third part comes in the trope is always the hero uncovers this nested plan.
Avish Parashar: yeah and.
Michael Worth: And one of two things happening concurrently the bad guy start building an antihero thing.
Avish Parashar: yeah that's what I was gonna say I.
Michael Worth: will add rather than.
Avish Parashar: What I was gonna say that while i'm not sure what your other ones me but yeah usually it's like there is a counter point to the there's The anti here like again, like the other robot yeah oh we've got our technology to and we've made 9000 or whatever right.
Michael Worth: And then the final wrap up with the final kind of big trope of this is at one point, the hero goes rogue from society and has to make society safe on his own merits there's a cool like mode, where he was.
Michael Worth: born of society trained by society originally was protecting society and then has to go outside society in order to fix society.
Avish Parashar: yeah or like has to kind of go against his programming or training like like robocop has to like you know, be a cop, again, instead of just a robot like has kind of tapping the human side.
Avish Parashar: that's a big piece of a lot of times the person when their hands, they lose their humanity and then part of the journey.
Avish Parashar: From a character's re tapping into it and real quick just there's usually side characters like a cop partner or a victim they rescue earlier who becomes like an ally.
Michael Worth: Exactly and let's all say they're almost always jacked like.
Michael Worth: yeah i've seen biceps the size of my head it's not one of these movies.
Avish Parashar: Right all right excellent so that was one more five minutes that brings us to the end of our genre tropes discussion.
Avish Parashar: I real quick hey i'll tell you what if you go and visit the blog post for this and fish and Mike calm.
Avish Parashar: Go to this episode and if we missed a trope or a genre that either we didn't talk about now that comes up in the episode you're able to comment on the episodes on our blog so go ahead and let us know hey you guys most important tropes oh yeah.
Avish Parashar: Perfect on these things were perfect and other things damn it, but nothing.
Transcription of the "Creating the Outline" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: Alright, so that brings us to segment two.
Avish Parashar: Creating the outline.
Avish Parashar: All right now we're going to spend about five minutes, creating a rough high level outline that we're going to.
Avish Parashar: Follow now, this being improv comedy and short form improv comedy we may veer from the outline but we're going to come up with a rough outline right now and we're going to use a for act structure.
Avish Parashar: Basically it's a three act structure, but we take Act two is split into two parts, it just flows, a little better for this format alright so first question we normally start with a prologue or movie trailer just I feel like a probably use a movie trailer versus a prologue.
Michael Worth: let's go with that yeah.
Avish Parashar: I mean the other thing we could do is.
Avish Parashar: Like a prologue, but a lot of these future dystopian movies have like the opening voiceover crawl where it's like a 2022 a catastrophic earthquake is blah blah blah or.
Avish Parashar: No money 75 corporation, you know governments collapsing corporations takeover.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah yeah.
Avish Parashar: Why don't we do that with an improv game, like a like a storytelling or one word type game so.
Avish Parashar: we'll come back and.
Michael Worth: switch or something like that yeah.
Avish Parashar: yeah let's do like a let's do like an opening Vo crawl.
Michael Worth: crawl and that's our that's our trailer slash prologue.
Avish Parashar: yeah I like that.
Michael Worth: idea too so Vo crawl.
Avish Parashar: Alright, so for.
Avish Parashar: Act one alright so in act one This is where we're going to we're going to meet the hero now one thing we didn't talk about trope wise is we almost always see the hero before they're enhanced you know right before they get shot before they get frozen before they get modified yeah.
Avish Parashar: So, I guess, we want to see the hero kind of an order in ordinary life.
Michael Worth: yeah and but here's the thing, this is the one of the things the Homer, especially in the 90s, is this thing's pretty brisk so we don't want it to be like Oh, the here walk around getting groceries it's likely hero in media recce.
Avish Parashar: yeah here.
Avish Parashar: In action, action, like in kop action.
Michael Worth: Right and and the whole point is that they're competent before they get buffed up before they get tipped up they're not like it's not like the 90 pound weakling it gets transformed.
Avish Parashar: Like Captain America.
Michael Worth: Captain America no hard, but nobody.
Michael Worth: These guys are already pretty pretty competent.
Avish Parashar: yeah so we've seen an order live in action as a police officer.
Avish Parashar: Will usually meet one of the allies, whether it's a partner or potential romantic interest with someone we meet here and will often meet the villain here to like and comment ordinary.
Avish Parashar: yeah sometimes the villain betrays the hero like before they become enhanced like so the ads that kind of person element to yep yep.
Michael Worth: So when you meet the villain it's usually in a description Cinematic description of the state of society, where the Members remember the villain is usually have held at the pillar of the Community.
Avish Parashar: yeah.
Michael Worth: So it's like you meet the villain but it's like dinner with the OSHA was depleted, this company is able to give you portable oxygen or whatever you know so that kind of thing.
Avish Parashar: yeah there's like some kind of propaganda ad type thing and then usually then act one ends with the transformation, whether it's because they got shot up and need to be rebuilt, or whatever, so it ends with like the the turn and the enhancement.
Michael Worth: yep, this is the crossing the threshold because that's the that's the threshold crossing he's going from human to you know i'm vintage human or whatever.
Michael Worth: yeah so apt to is usually a showcasing heroes new abilities.
Avish Parashar: yeah there's where we see what they can do yeah with your random criminals it's not like.
Michael Worth: yeah low level criminals.
Avish Parashar: Right yeah oh girls, and I would say that we often will see the villain here.
Avish Parashar: kind of furthering their plan and sometimes the ally will will come across it like the ally, has an agency here.
Avish Parashar: You know, like the partner copies investigating something you know all the superheroes off becoming and testing the powers, the ally COPs like oh hey look this CEOs starting to learn the CEOs like evil right right.
Michael Worth: Here are the two yeah this put your the here or ally uncovers layers of deception.
Michael Worth: starts to see villains plan.
Michael Worth: Okay, so showcasing here's new abilities low level criminals villainous forward and plans either here or ally uncovers layers of deception starts to see the villains plan cool.
Michael Worth: You know, by the way this is like a hero's journey, one on one so here's tests and trials right it's like you know.
Avish Parashar: Learning and developing on.
Avish Parashar: And then act too so.
Avish Parashar: I would say yeah back to turn this is when he's going to shift from reactive to proactive, so I said, the end of Act two is when the hero kinda learns I think oftentimes he won't find out to the end of act three that the bad guys the bad guy i'm.
Michael Worth: Right, he knows, right here.
Avish Parashar: So he, like uncovers the plot the plot is to like destroy the slums of the city he'll uncover that plot, but he wanted to say, know who's behind it.
Michael Worth: Right, but at the end of actors, when he decides to be like now i'm going to start actively to foil in this plot.
Avish Parashar: Right without knowing that it's you know he's been going to be betrayed by so yeah I guess as actor, he is in trying to stop the plot yep.
Michael Worth: hero not resources detectives whatever it is not researchers, but if.
Avish Parashar: that's the case.
Michael Worth: investigate that's the word, thank you.
Avish Parashar: As English.
Michael Worth: investigates.
Avish Parashar: investigates the plot and then usually this will culminate with him learning what you need to know, but then a learning the pillar of the Community is a bad guy and meeting slash fighting slash losing to the anti robot.
Michael Worth: I just wrote villains starts building antihero tech hero confronts.
Michael Worth: villain flunkies.
Avish Parashar: yeah he learns the bad guys we're.
Michael Worth: yeah and loses to anti tech.
Michael Worth: um this is that that's heroes darkest hour.
Michael Worth: oftentimes here the Allies wounded.
Michael Worth: and take and take it out of the game.
Avish Parashar: We I was in the I could be wounded here or the ally could be the one who saves after the hero gets beaten by the.
Michael Worth: Law.
Michael Worth: let's go with that let's go the Li saves them that's pretty cool I like.
Avish Parashar: The beginning of back for like the ally saves the hero on.
Avish Parashar: rehab This is where the hero will ideally learn like maybe they're going to tap back into their humanity or.
Michael Worth: Their past or something.
Avish Parashar: Like that kind of going around society, you know, instead of yep.
Michael Worth: And so now there's two things about this.
Michael Worth: At this point in time to hear was usually pariahs either they're either they're the propaganda sister persona non grata.
Michael Worth: or the police has been bought out, and so they have to be because, when the hero has to decide through accessing his humanity or whatever to go it alone and so that's the big heroes mobile he said i'm going to do it myself, so the hero.
Michael Worth: I decide.
Michael Worth: To go solo.
Avish Parashar: yeah there's gotta yeah the solo slash only here on the Allies like yeah the, the system has abandoned him right and oftentimes it's been he's moved on to make a strong political stand oftentimes at the very end.
Avish Parashar: Then, like the system will get back on the system will realize it was wrong and yeah you know, like the whole police force that have been to him at the beginning of X for.
Avish Parashar: At the very end and he's defeated the bad guy he's defeated the bad monster, and then you know he's confronting the CEO villain who's got the upper hand but then, like all the COPs show up or like no like now we're good yeah.
Michael Worth: yeah or liking Superman for the quest for peace.
Avish Parashar: In a bed.
Michael Worth: in a bad way cannot hear that man it's in the podcast out.
Avish Parashar: Basically that's all it has happened and act, I mean a lot of it can happen, a lot of ways loss that's basically it's you got saved by the ally rehabs.
Avish Parashar: has to go kind of road.
Avish Parashar: You know fights the bad robot monster and then.
Michael Worth: Yes, up yeah society steps up to to help him at the end, but not like he needed it it's more like society's changed he's been the agent the agent of.
Avish Parashar: Well that's why you have the two right like he uses his powers and smarts to beat the robot um but then like.
Avish Parashar: You know society kind of helps him beat the CEO like because yeah he needs like society on his side, otherwise he just going to be the bad guy like he's going to be the criminal over.
Avish Parashar: yeah alright so awesome that is a solid outline, which we will stick roughly to.
Michael Worth: which will probably nor completely.
In a World…where corporate greed creates challenges for people and love is hard to find…two people who are very much at odds about the building project they are working on will discover that the love they have been looking for may be right there in front of them.
This episode features the improv games Last Letter, First Letter, Cutting Room, He Said She Said, and Blind Line.
About This Episode
In this episode, we pay homage to romantic comedies. The ones where the two romantic leads begin on opposite sides of an issue and don't really like each other at all, but over time start to realize that they are falling deeply in love with each other.
Time Codes
Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 03:25
Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 08:19
Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 13:43
Start of show: 19:30
Improv Game - Last Letter, First Letter: 21:04
Improv Game - Cutting Room: 27:09
Improv Game - He Said She Said: 38:20
Improv Game - Blind Line: 46:42
End of show, into announcements: 54:55
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This is only the fourth run-through of the show we ever performed! It's not quite as polished as our more recent ones, but it is a ton of fun and we think you'll enjoy it. Also, it is a great way to see where we started vs. where we are now!
In a World…of beauty, wonder, and magic…one beautiful princess will learn that not everything is sunshine and roses. When she incurs the wrath of a vengeful witch, she will be forced to survive - with a little help from some strange new friends!
This episode features the improv games 2-Word Typewriter, Rashomon, Superheroes, Blind Line, and Cutting Room. Not to mention a psycho-sheep, thin hippos, invisible demons, and much, much more!
In the style of a Holiday Clip Show, like every sitcom ever puts together...
In a World…where people like to put together clip shows at the end of the year to recap…one lucky listener (you!) will get to experience 7 different improv games from 7 different shows! This episode features the improv games One Word at a Time Typewriter, Superheroes, Countdown, Dating Game, Newsroom, He Said She Said, and 2-Word at a Time Typewriter.
In a World…where people often question and even regret the decisions they have made in their life…one women will find herself given a chance to see what her life would have been like if she had made…different choices.
This episode was performed live (virtually)! It features the improv games Movie Trailer in a Minute, One word at a time typewriter, Gibberish Switch ,Pardon, and Cutting Room.
Show Notes:
About This Episode
In this episode, we pay homage to Hallmark Christmas movies, but specifically movies that feature a supernatural element, like a ghost, or wish fulfillment. We performed this episode live and people watched via Facebook Live and Zoom. It was a ton of fun, and we told a nice little tale that probably involved more opium than most Hallmark Channel movies…
Links
List of Hallmark Channel Movies on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hallmark_Channel_Original_Movies
Time Codes
Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 06:25
Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 13:30
Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 20:22
Start of show: 29:20
Improv Game - Movie Trailer in a Minute: 32:20
Improv Game - One Word at a Time Typewriter: 34:30
Improv Game - Gibberish Switch: 43:28
Improv Game - Pardon: 52:06
Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:04:05
End of show, into announcements: 1:19:15
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Transcription of the "Discussing the Genre Tropes" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: segment one discussing the genre tropes.
Avish Parashar: So now Mike and I are gonna spend five minutes and I have my iPhone with my timer and a little Christmas hat on it.
Avish Parashar: Yes, i'm going to set a timer for five minutes we're going to talk about the tropes cliches and commonalities of this genre.
Avish Parashar: And please feel free to chime in via the chat or commenting on the Facebook feed, if you have any cliches that we've missed what makes a hallmark movie a hallmark movie please add that we'd love to do it, but Mike, let me start with you, I know you just watched a couple here.
Mike Worth: What yeah yeah.
Avish Parashar: What when you think of a hallmark Christmas movie with the supernatural what comes to mind okay.
Mike Worth: So, first of all, of course, we're just gonna lean heavily into the whole Christmas thing Okay, but here's the difference there's two things that happened.
Mike Worth: And and and funny enough Sarah kind of alerted me to something yesterday, where she was like Oh, you could actually do it's a wonderful life mclouth done a horror movie but it's kind of in that the first drop is this, it is somebody who, through their decisions in life have.
Avish Parashar: fallen away from.
Avish Parashar: What makes Christmas magical.
Mike Worth: i'm not saying that they don't believe in Christmas, but there are prioritizing habits and or viewpoints that are like i'm christmasy like oh work instead of family, you know.
Mike Worth: Money instead of true relationships all that stuff and one of two things happens in the in this kind of trope.
Mike Worth: And they both need the same thing they both get in an alternate shot at a different reality that's kind of like what are the I think one of the big tropes right either they get the wish fulfillment.
Mike Worth: or they get an external thing like I think there's one that I haven't seen there's one more like an angel is basically designed to like steer the person kind of like three.
Avish Parashar: yeah and you know the.
Avish Parashar: supernatural the broad category and we can sub divide my matrix of hallmark movies.
Avish Parashar: In general Mike was talking about and I figured out if you take the y axis of dramatic slash sappy romantic.
Avish Parashar: And comedic and the X axis of supernatural versus non supernatural those are four basic hallmark movies so we've done the comedic the one that dropped today on our podcast called near miss kiss was just straight romantic comedic.
Mike Worth: Fine podcast.
Avish Parashar: yeah that was that was like hallmark movies, that we had a lot of fun with that.
Avish Parashar: But with the supernatural there's the wish fulfillment or ironic wish fulfillment yeah but there's also they can also be like ghosts and time displaced people so there's.
Avish Parashar: Before Christmas with a K, whereas.
Avish Parashar: 14th century night.
Avish Parashar: there's like.
Avish Parashar: I think it's called the spirit of Christmas, where a woman like has to like sell this manner, but when she gets there it's like haunted by a spirit, who she, of course, falls in love with, I believe that we were thinking more of the wish you know almost like.
Avish Parashar: it's a wonderful lifetime.
Mike Worth: Right right like the and again that that that's what I was saying, like if there's an angel something involved they're basically doing a wish fulfillment That was what your life would have been like if you have done that it's constant Nicolas cage thing, where he did the.
Avish Parashar: You know yeah man.
Avish Parashar: yeah yeah so alright so we've got a wish now.
Avish Parashar: The whoever the grantor of the wishes once in a while it's just done some reason but there's often like you said, like and it's always like a wise ass like an older person who's always like slyly.
Avish Parashar: You know, showing up throughout the story and kind of nudging them or winking at them are right.
Mike Worth: Now Now let me know, let me ask this and it's okay to be too in depth, for this one does that person have a vested interest in getting the conversion like they're an angel that needs to get its wings like it's a wonderful life or it's just I guess my job, like I do.
Avish Parashar: ya know usually it's just something like asshole who's like Oh, by the way.
Avish Parashar: If you're deciding is a family show we're pretty clean, but we do drop some language.
Mike Worth: yeah.
Mike Worth: We don't we don't get super naughty but like 13 and up was it but.
Avish Parashar: If you're like on a different coasts and you're watching this at work.
Avish Parashar: You know, we may drop some put.
Avish Parashar: Not a lot, but just you know.
Avish Parashar: But usually it's like yeah it's it's usually the person you never find out why they're doing it, I mean you, just like the spirit of Christmas right there like they're doing it to help this person who is almost always a female reconnect with her.
Avish Parashar: her family her right.
Avish Parashar: is almost always a reconnection right.
Avish Parashar: Like.
Avish Parashar: Well that's what it is it's never a person who like grew up and never like Christmas.
Mike Worth: Right right they had their childhood innocence and their love of all that is good, with Christmas and it fell away that's a huge trope.
Mike Worth: And in this what I don't think there's a dead relative in the first one there's always a dead relatives.
Mike Worth: In this yes everyone's still alive, because.
Mike Worth: You have to have.
Mike Worth: The strange people come back and reconnect.
Avish Parashar: Oh yeah yeah well it's when when it's an alternate life like if she's going to encounter everyone from a previous life and she's gonna want to connect with them, but they're like oh Where are you missing.
Avish Parashar: it's always a female leader like 99% of time, you know there's almost always a sassy sassy best friend or sister.
Mike Worth: yeah yeah exactly yeah like a who's the one from lower merion that I love Tina fey Tina fey be phenomenal that.
Mike Worth: it's basically.
Avish Parashar: Like the friend the fight again doesn't believe her.
Mike Worth: Right so so the here's the thing what is in the trope, why is the wish happening to show her alternate stuff Is it because she's broken something, and she has a chance to fix it.
Mike Worth: Because that's usually what I think it is usually it's like she's headed down a path where she's gonna make a decision it's.
Avish Parashar: going to.
Mike Worth: hurt a lot of people, or you know, create a structure that's you know anti Christmas.
Avish Parashar: yeah and that's our five minute timer.
Mike Worth: We don't care I don't care it's Tuesday we're going.
Avish Parashar: I don't know she's I mean there's almost always something to overcome there's some reason she lost touch and why she became so like career driven and material and into the city.
Avish Parashar: You know universe like cities bad small towns good i'm right but I don't know if it's like it could be that she broke something but and that can kind of come out of the improv I think.
Mike Worth: So last thing is her foils there's a man that she didn't settle down with because of one divergence, and when she goes to the which film he realized that he was a true love, what about the other guy that she's currently with it's your jerk or the just a bad fit.
Mike Worth: Because what.
Avish Parashar: I find with wish fulfillment she.
Avish Parashar: She ends up realizing she's in the right place to be oh Oh, she got her husband and her kids or whatever, and then.
Avish Parashar: She sees what our life could have been like actually taking the other path, but realizes oh no like I you know, like the one I saw not that long ago.
Avish Parashar: there's a lot of tension in the relationship in the marriage because, like he's busy with his career and this and that she's like I, but then she wakes up she longer with them.
Avish Parashar: So over the course of the movie she realizes Oh, she needs to be with the original guy, so I think when it's wishful phone.
Avish Parashar: yeah you know she's she's brought back to so she does maybe meet that one she didn't go wish that she always thought about but realized that he wasn't the best fit for.
Mike Worth: Okay okay well that makes sense we'll go with that one and.
Avish Parashar: or who knows it's improv so maybe everyone ends up dying by a giant bag of the.
Mike Worth: aliens aliens.
Avish Parashar: we've gone there before alright, so that we got some basic crops and again if anyone wants to add, please feel free to.
Avish Parashar: throw some in the comments are happy to to see what you got there and so now that brings us to segment two.
Transcription of the "Creating the Outline" Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: Which is creating the outline, so we are now going to spend about five minutes, creating a high level outline for our story it's.
Avish Parashar: we're going to use a four X structure it's similar to three x storytelling fruchter we just break Act two into two parts right have you explain more and we get to that.
Avish Parashar: And this is just kind of a starting point it's improv comedy, which means we may veer from this, we may completely ignore it, but it's the basic it's kind of like our basic.
Mike Worth: flow and keeping us from going off kilter you know it keeps it like organized a little bit you know.
Avish Parashar: Exactly so.
Mike Worth: For you, the listener.
Avish Parashar: Five minutes starts now.
Avish Parashar: alright.
Mike Worth: So next one is pretty easy we're gonna.
Mike Worth: it's gonna be a female.
Avish Parashar: The main character is going to be female we established her her life satisfaction.
Mike Worth: And the hook is in act one of this kind of thing it's materialistic Lee satisfying but spiritually lacking does that make sense.
Avish Parashar: yeah she's successful she she has all the trappings I guess.
Avish Parashar: You know what it is like her life isn't she doesn't appreciate this is a little different from the non supernatural because he has them she doesn't appreciate it and understand what she has right.
Avish Parashar: Like in the in the non supernatural one she has it but it's missing something here what she's missing is really.
Avish Parashar: Like Maybe she needs to make some decisions and changes, but for the most part, like the stuff he's got his good she's just so.
Avish Parashar: Uncertain or resentful or sad she missed out on you know the other path.
Avish Parashar: So we see all the.
Mike Worth: yay and then they get nurtured like pummeling my head okay yeah so that that's that what does that mean okay so got us a rough that she's got everything she needs so she's actually supposed to be a pretty.
Avish Parashar: content and maybe not necessary everything like Maybe she is like gave up her career to just be a family person.
Avish Parashar: And then through the things she realizes that she didn't need to give it up, she read text her love of architecture, but yeah she don't have like everything but she's she's got a good life but there's some things there that are you know, causing her headaches problems.
Mike Worth: Okay, so oh yeah.
Avish Parashar: And I think it ends.
Avish Parashar: yeah act one will end with the wish being granted her encountering the person right, so we do need to meet some of these other people, the sassy friend the.
Avish Parashar: The angel.
Mike Worth: she'll be married right with family.
Avish Parashar: Probably doesn't have to be but.
Mike Worth: yeah let's let's not not as soon as I put on the on the table there, and so, at the end of the day, which he basically says she's now she's yeah she's got a comfortable of, say, I watched Christmas air force drop yesterday, so I went back to what's up a little bit off on that.
Avish Parashar: watching the wrong hallmark movies.
Mike Worth: So Charlie boy was great um no but you know I know you're saying what you're saying is this she's got a comfortable life.
Mike Worth: uh she's got the things that if you look at it through a external lens is like you've got a wonderful beautiful wonderful life she's like Oh, but I miss this chance because it's pivot point that I had.
Avish Parashar: In right and then she gets to see.
Avish Parashar: What life would have been like.
Mike Worth: Okay So yes, that's gonna be.
Avish Parashar: that's a pretty standard mentoring angel in Act two.
Avish Parashar: She wakes up and is in this new world so there's obviously the you know wtf she's like.
Avish Parashar: You know it's like the most these movies, a genie doesn't grand her the wishes Teller she just kind of wakes up and all of a sudden she's like oh yeah where Am I like this is row, this is my old high school flame is my husband now and.
Avish Parashar: So there's a lot of like discovery of this new of the wish fulfilled.
Mike Worth: yeah yeah and she's right into active is all about getting the crossing the threshold she's now in the Special World so we just want to basically described how different everything is and how maybe initially she kind of was like this is so cool.
Avish Parashar: i've got yes.
Avish Parashar: I think in this one she's just reacting and she's so happy to have all these things that she thought she needed in a previous life yeah oh.
Avish Parashar: she's happy there might be a little bit of conflict, you know he started.
Avish Parashar: You know, maybe she misses like her family her kid from a previous life but, overall I think she was like.
Mike Worth: Well funny but then we can do we enact to we can actually play what in the other version of the homework thing was act, one which is like oh she's got a great life but she's like doesn't have time for family and she's not doing.
Mike Worth: All these christmasy things that you used to do because she's so busy, and so it's like you kind of like take act one from you know near miss kiss and you make it act to have this, you can see i'm getting at where it's.
Avish Parashar: Like.
Mike Worth: she thinks she's happy it's like yeah we a lot of money, but you know.
Avish Parashar: So yeah alright, so it ends, I think, with.
Avish Parashar: Maybe the first challenge of this new life like you know things seem good, but then you realize oh like I don't have this oh now, I have to deal with this which i'd never had to do in my life yeah yeah.
Mike Worth: I got it I got it already I already have a conflict that i'm like I know it's it's improv interesting, but if you get an idea you got to like kind of like this long form, you can be a little bit.
Avish Parashar: Ly little way, maybe it'll come up maybe it won't but.
Avish Parashar: yeah so then.
Avish Parashar: I think in act three she kind of.
Avish Parashar: I think she kind of goes on a parallel path one is trying to get back to real life, like maybe trying to Maybe she goes to where her family was original family was and tries to meet them and connect with them yeah Maybe she tries to.
Avish Parashar: You know reconnect with angel to get out of this wish.
Avish Parashar: Plus she's got to deal with solving whatever issues and problems exist in the in the new.
Mike Worth: timeline yeah yeah and there's some crises there.
Avish Parashar: tries to tries to go back and tries to solve.
Mike Worth: This is a fairly complex, what did what did homework and so nuanced.
Avish Parashar: We might be adding maybe i've analyzed too much.
Avish Parashar: Maybe there's and then ideally this much nuance in them.
Mike Worth: Chinese brainwash someone to trigger him.
Mike Worth: candidate.
Avish Parashar: Other duck timer well.
Avish Parashar: Until we get.
Mike Worth: To act for is actually pretty straightforward, which is she does the following things she basically decides realizes your old life was amazing makes gestures.
Mike Worth: In her new life that are.
Avish Parashar: indicative.
Mike Worth: of her character from the old life.
Mike Worth: There by solving that timeline.
Mike Worth: And then the angel basically.
Mike Worth: says yeah you've learned your lesson and kind of brings her back to the.
Avish Parashar: yeah so she takes what she did in the new life and uses that to make changes in her old life and.
Mike Worth: And also, we appreciate that what she had is what she had.
Avish Parashar: Right that's kind of the dovetailing of the two lives is like Oh, I can do this, and this and here's how it lands and then she wakes up.
Mike Worth: yeah I like what you said about the idea of like her, like being like oh yeah I can actually take what I what I thought I gave up you know, like, I gave up the skill set to, and I can actually bring it in incorporate into my current LIFE and have the best of both worlds.
Mike Worth: yeah man look at my music.
Avish Parashar: You and yours go bad music.
Avish Parashar: Alright, so we got a pretty good outline like you said, we may or may not stick with that.
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