On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel and EqualAI Senior Advisor Nuala O’Connor sit down with John Bailey, Nonresident Senior Fellow at American Enterprise Institute, where he focuses on the intersection of technology and innovation in areas such as education and the workforce, and how to leverage the benefits of emerging technologies while minimizing the risks. John shares his thoughts on the challenges and opportunities that AI presents, including in education, healthcare/mental health and the workforce, and why he is optimistic about the future of AI and new possibilities being opened up by generative AI and agentic AI. He also shares his thoughts on the importance of AI literacy and ensuring people’s trust in AI, as well as ways that AI frontier labs, educators and others can help guide a path toward safe and beneficial AI adoption.

EqualAI is thrilled to share the publication of our AI Governance Playbook for Boards—a practical guide to help Boards of Directors responsibly oversee AI while balancing risk management, value creation, and emerging legal and compliance obligations. On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sits down with our partners at WilmerHale, Jessica Lewis and Joshua Geltzer, to discuss the newly released Playbook, and Jessica and Joshua break down why Board-level engagement in AI governance is no longer optional—but both a best practice and, increasingly, a legal requirement. 

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel offers a special sneak peak into Governing the Machine, the book she co-authored and released this year, which is available online and in-stores and on audible (with a familiar voice). In this special episode,  Miriam Vogel reflects on a pivotal year for AI—and what it means for all of us. She shares key moments from 2025, including highlights on the work advanced alongside partners across industry, government, and civil society, and why this growing community matters as AI reshapes how we work, learn, and govern. The episode concludes with the exclusive excerpt from a chapter in Governing the Machine, offering a deeper look at how we got here—and how we move forward with clarity and trust. We’re excited to continue the conversation in 2026 with new guests, expanded AI literacy discussions, and timely insights you won’t want to miss.

From November 11-12, 2025, EqualAI and Heartland Forward organized a convening with Mayor Tim Kelly of Chattanooga, Tennessee focused on AI in education and the workforce. The event brought together approximately 60 leaders from the City of Chattanooga and across the State of Tennessee to examine how AI is reshaping the education and jobs landscape and discuss the risks and opportunities of integrating AI into schools and workplaces. In Chattanooga, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sat down with Mayor Kelly and Heartland Forward President Angie Cooper for a podcast recording of In AI We Trust? During the discussion, Mayor Kelly discussed real-world examples of how the City of Chattanooga is using AI in practical ways to help improve everyday quality of life for city residents, and Angie shared about how her organization, a “think-and-do-tank,” has launched the first-ever Heartland AI Caucus. Learn about all this and much more in this latest episode!

On this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel speaks with Axios Chief Technology Correspondent Ina Fried about how AI and this moment in technology compares to other earlier moments of transformation and Ina’s role as a journalist writing the Axios AI+ newsletter and putting together Axios’s AI+ Summits. In the episode, Ina discusses how AI is impacting jobs and her own work as a journalist, the complexity involved in building AI into human processes, and her hopes for the future of AI. You will not want to miss Ina’s sharp insights in this latest episode. Tune in now!

HOT OFF THE PRESSES: In this special episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel is joined by her two co-authors of Governing the Machine: How to navigate the risks of AI and unlock its true potential, Dr. Paul Dongha, Head of Responsible AI and AI Strategy at NatWest Group, and Ray Eitel-Porter, Accenture Luminary and Senior Research Associate at the Intellectual Forum, Jesus College, Cambridge, to launch their new book released TODAY (October 28, 2025). Miriam, Paul, and Ray share their motivation for writing the book, some of the big takeaways on AI governance, why it is for companies and consumers alike, and what they hope readers will learn from their book. We hope that you enjoy this episode, and please be sure to purchase a copy of Governing the Machine at the link above! And share your feedback at [email protected]! 

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel sits down with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, for a fascinating discussion about the “AI hurricane coming through” and how he sees the role of journalists when it comes to reporting on new technological developments and promoting AI literacy. During the episode, Nicholas shares his wish list of AI policies and regulations, the most interesting thing in tech he has seen recently, his thoughts on the most important things people should be paying attention to as they work to understand new developments in the AI space, and much, much more.

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, EqualAI President and CEO Miriam Vogel interviews Steven Overly, host of POLITICO Tech’s weekly podcast and editorial director of POLITICO Live. Steven shares highlights from POLITICO’s 2025 AI & Tech Summit and his thoughts on how the tech landscape has changed since he first started reporting on it as a journalist. Steven and Miriam also touch on topics including AI in government, AI and the workforce, and how to bring nuance into conversations around AI and ensure that more people are included in conversations about how it will impact their lives.

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, cohosts Miriam Vogel and Nuala O’Connor speak with Daniel Dobrygowski, Head of Governance and Trust at the World Economic Forum (WEF), and Karla Yee Amezaga, Initiatives Lead for AI and Data Governance with WEF’s Centre for AI Excellence about the importance of building trust in technology, strengthening AI and digital literacy, and modernizing boards to be fit for purpose for the modern era. They discuss EqualAI’s and WEF’s  new playbooks, including WEF’s Playbook on Advancing Responsible AI Innovation and EqualAI’s new AI Governance Playbook. Find the WEF Playbook here and EqualAI’s AI Governance Playbook here.

In this episode of In AI We Trust?, cohosts Miriam Vogel and Nuala O’Connor are joined by Adam Thierer, resident senior fellow @ R Street's Tech & Innovation team. Adam weighs in on the Trump Administration’s AI Action Plan, the importance of Congress in developing AI policy, and existing legal principles and practices that help define the new digital and AI age. They focused on the mandate for AI literacy, as well as the necessity of AI technologies being regulated in a transparent and trustworthy way that end users, and particularly consumers, can understand.