In this special extended SPL podcast the poet Valerie Gillies discusses her life in poetry with the SPL's Samuel Tongue and Sukhema (aka Larry Butler) one of the SPL's founding members back in 1984. Their free ranging discussion touches on Poetry and Wellbeing - a motivating force for all three poets - as well as facilitating and structuring workshops, survivors poetry, writing prompts, muses, and some of the projects they've been involved with over the years. Valerie reads a number of her own poems.