In-House Outliers

In-House Outliers

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In-House Outliers episodes

  • Enhancing Communication with Ericsson's Alexander de Nerée

    On this episode, Alexander de Nerée (External Firm Relationship Counsel at Ericsson) joined Alex Kelly to discuss:


    -Alexander's philosophy when it comes to managing outside counsel relationships


    -Ways to set expectations with law firms regarding AI use, and develop more open dialogues


    -Alexander's fascinating career journey and his best advice for aspiring in-house legal professionals

    36 min
  • Pushing the Envelope with DoorDash's Ryan Black

    On this episode, Ryan Black (Chief of Staff, Legal at DoorDash) joined the podcast recently to share his expert insights into:


    -Common pitfalls legal ops can encounter during legal technology evaluations—and how to avoid them


    -The skills he cultivated on his journey from Paralegal to Legal Operations Manager to Legal Chief of Staff


    -His experience building out a legal operations function, and how he leverages AI in his day-to-day to work more efficiently

    29 min
  • Embracing Innovation with CyberArk's Stephanie Palmieri

    On this episode, Stephanie Palmieri (Head of Legal Operations at CyberArk) joined Alex Kelly to discuss:

    -The keys to effective change management—including how to measure the success and necessity of legal technology implementations

    -How the size and maturity of an organization's legal function dictate what its priorities will be from an operations standpoint

    -The takeaways from her own incredible career journey, which began in television production and ultimately led her to the field of legal ops

    25 min
  • Building Relationships with Panasonic's Terrene Collins

    On this episode, Terrene Collins (Director of Legal Operations & Chief of Staff to the CLO at Panasonic North America) joined the podcast to discuss:

    • The importance of building relationships and engaging with stakeholders throughout the organization to build an effective legal ops function

    • How she evaluates legal technology to ensure the tools she secures for the legal department are a good fit


    • Terrene's thoughts on AI as a value-multiplier, and where she sees it making the biggest impact for in-house teams
    27 min
  • Emerging Legal Ops: A Conversation with Rocket Companies’ Vice President

    On this episode, Nicole Weidenhamer reflects on her eight-year journey at Rocket Companies, where she has risen from intern to VP of Legal Operations.

    During her conversation with Brightflag's Kevin Cohn, they discuss:

    • How to build and scale a legal operations function
    • The value of networking with other legal ops professionals and finding a community
    • The evolving legal ops landscape, and the keys to effective change management
    34 min
  • Staying Agile with Etsy's Jennifer Smith

    On this episode, Jennifer Smith (Legal Operations Manager at Etsy) joined the show to discuss the key skillsets legal ops professionals need to be successful, and Jennifer's own fascinating journey into the world of legal operations.

    Jennifer also discussed some projects she's most proud of having spearheaded, and the impacts she sees AI having on the legal field.

    26 min
  • Legal Transformation in the Fortune 500: A Brightflag x Harbor Fireside Chat

    Join Kevin Cohn and Stacie Neeter as they delve into the evolving landscape of enterprise legal management, and the challenges faced by modern legal departments.

    During their conversation, they discuss:

    • The shift from siloed initiatives to a holistic approach to legal technology integrations, and the role AI is playing in that progression


    • How legal departments can establish themselves as valuable business functions while also addressing the strategic complexities of legal service delivery


    • The role that data insights and effective communication play in managing legal spend and fostering collaboration
    51 min
  • Being Data-Drive with SharkNinja's Daniel Young

    On this episode, Daniel Young (Chief of Staff, Senior Director of Legal Operations at SharkNinja) joined Alex Kelly to discuss how data serves as the foundation for impactful legal operations initiatives.

    Daniel also discussed his fascinating career journey from being a veterinary technician to working in legal ops, and shared insights into his approach to legal technology evaluations.

    31 min
  • Deloitte Legal AI Predictions: A Discussion with Brightflag

    Mathew Steer (Associate Director of Legal Management Consulting at Deloitte Legal) joins Brightflag’s Kevin Cohn for a special podcast episode about AI’s role in corporate legal departments, including discussions around:

    • Moving from AI proof-of-concepts to rolling out true AI programs
    • Measuring the ROI of AI
    • Leveraging learnings and applying them to deliver value
    • Developing a true vision for AI within in-house teams
    49 min
  • Navigating Change with Generate's Sarah Starr

    On this episode, Sarah Starr (Director of Legal Operations at Generate) joined Alex Kelly to discuss her approach to change management and legal technology evaluations.

    Sarah also shared insights into her career journey, and offered advice to those who are just starting out in legal operations.

    28 min

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In-House Outliers shares the stories and secrets of those who have taken unconventional paths and challenged conventional notions of how corporate legal departments should operate.