In Session: The In Treatment Podcast

On the last episode of In Session, hosts Dr. Janelle S. Peifer and Brandon Kyle Goodman talk to the incomparable Uzo Aduba about her experience bringing Dr. Brooke Taylor to life. We hear why Uzo says In Treatment was “the hardest thing she’s ever done” and what it’s like to play a character with so many struggles that overlap with her own. Then, our hosts talk through the show’s last four episodes and unpack tricky questions about how and when to end a therapeutic relationship. This podcast is produced by HBO in conjunction with Pineapple Street Studios. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

 

Here’s a list of resources mentioned in this week’s episode:

Alcoholics Anonymous aa.org 

Al-Anon Family Groups al-anon.org - to support family and loved ones in the lives of someone with alcoholism

“You Are Your Best Thing” edited by Tarana Burke and Brene Brown - on vulnerability, shame and resilience 

Therapist search databases: 

inclusivetherapists.com 

therapyforblackgirls.com 

therapyden.com

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Co-showrunner Jennifer Schuur joins hosts Dr. Janelle S. Peifer Ph.D. and Brandon Kyle Goodman on the podcast to give them a behind the scenes look at how In Treatment came together. They also talk about Dr. Brooke’s alcohol addiction and the pressures Laila feels as a young person. After that, Dr. Janelle and Brandon take a look at Eladio’s and Colin’s boundary breaking week, and just how the client-therapist relationship is coming undone for Brooke. This podcast is produced by HBO in conjunction with Pineapple Street Studios. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here’s a list of resources mentioned in this week’s episode:

 

Jung

The Archetypes and The Collective Unconscious 

The Body Keeps The Score

Attachment - A Secure Base - John Bowlby 

Maternal - Guarding the Moon - Francesca Lia Block

Alcoholics Anonymous and Al-Anon

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This week, hosts Dr. Janelle S. Peifer Ph.D. and Brandon Kyle Goodman unpack what it’s like to see Dr. Brooke’s alcohol addiction affect her therapeutic practice. In Dr. Brooke’s fourth week, she stumbles her way through revealing a number of diagnoses which threaten to rupture some of her patient relationships. Our hosts talk through the tricky art of how and when to reveal a diagnosis to a patient and when formalizing a judgment is helpful or counterproductive. This podcast is produced by HBO in conjunction with Pineapple Street Studios. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

 

Here’s a list of resources mentioned in this week’s episode:

Narcissism

Rethinking Narcissism: The Secret to Recognizing and Coping with Narcissists

Black youth mental health

https://www.blackgirlssmile.org/resources

Suicide prevention

1.800.662.HELP: SAMSHA National Helpline - mental health + substance use support and resources 24/7/365 (www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline)

1.800.273.8255: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline - suicide and crisis call and chat based support 24/7/365 (www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org)

Signs of SI: https://afsp.org/risk-factors-protective-factors-and-warning-signs

Black families, racial trauma

Anderson, R. E. (2018). And still WE rise: Parent–child relationships, resilience, and school readiness in low-income urban Black families. Journal of Family Psychology, 32(1), 60.

https://therapyforblackgirls.com/2020/10/21/session-178-taking-action-taking-care-of-ourselves/

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This week on the podcast, hosts Dr. Janelle S. Peifer, Ph.D., and Brandon Kyle Goodman dive headfirst into the discussion of safety, spanking, and the stakes of growing up black in America. In week 3 of In Treatment, Dr. Brooke has an intense session with teenager Laila that brings up feelings and fears for both the therapist and the patient. Our hosts unpack the session as well as the controversial choices faced by parents—and how mindsets can change. This podcast is produced by HBO in conjunction with Pineapple Street Studios. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

 

Here’s a list of resources mentioned in this week’s episode:

 

Intersectionality for Black women:

Mapping the Margins: Intersectionality, Identity Politics, and Violence Against Women of Color (Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw)

Crenshaw, K. W. (2017). On intersectionality: Essential writings. The New Press.

Double Consciousness:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1897/08/strivings-of-the-negro-people/305446/

Spanking + Abuse:

https://www.instagram.com/mrchazz/?hl=en

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5H1slC912HSVD4OrXKinUa?si=o39LVxteSJ-yVbfA5Qm3rg&nd=1

Black families, racial trauma

https://www.apa.org/pi/families/resources/newsletter/2017/04/racial-trauma

Black youth mental health

https://www.blackgirlssmile.org/resources

LGBTQ+ Mental Health 

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/

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Hosts Dr. Janelle S. Peifer, Ph.D., and Brandon Kyle Goodman interview the In Treatment showrunner’s assistant David Sigurani and get into week 2. In Dr. Brooke’s second week with her new patients we start to see how difficult it is to open the box of deeper issues that make her patients uncomfortable. The hosts unpack why some patients avoid triggering topics in therapy and the risk of pushing patients to go deeper when some issues are locked away for a reason. This podcast is produced by HBO in conjunction with Pineapple Street Studios.

 

Here’s a list of resources mentioned in this week’s episode:

 

Readings: 

Carl Rogers (1956), “On Becoming a Person: A Therapist’s View of Psychotherapy” 

Brene Brown (2012), “Daring Greatly: How the Courage to Be Vulnerable Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent and Lead” 

Breme Brown (2012), “Listening to Shame” Ted Talk

 

Resources: 

Open Path Collective - Affordable in-person and online therapy starting at $30 (https://openpathcollective.org/)

Not So Strong organization - An online space for Black women across the diaspora to embrace the healing power of vulnerability. (https://www.notsostrong.org/)

The Loveland Foundation - Gives therapy scholarships to Black women (https://thelovelandfoundation.org/loveland-therapy-fund/) 

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In the first episode of In Session, hosts Dr. Janelle S. Peifer, Ph.D., and Brandon Kyle Goodman discuss the first four episodes of In Treatment. In addition to tackling  that huge question: “What is therapy?” Our hosts talk about the messiness of creating and breaking boundaries (as seen between Dr. Brooke and Eladio), and the power dynamics that can develop between therapist and client (we’re looking at you, Colin). This podcast is produced by HBO in conjunction with Pineapple Street Studios. 

 

Here’s a list of resources mentioned in this week’s episode:

 

Readings:

Gutiérrez y Muhs, G., Niemann, Y. F., González, C. G., & Harris, A. P. (2012). Presumed incompetent: The intersections of race and class for women in academia.

Jamison, K. R. (2015). An unquiet mind: A memoir of moods and madness (Vol. 4). Pan Macmillan.

Demographics of the U.S. Psychology Workforce: www.apa.org/workforce/data-tools/demographics

 

Support:

1.800.662.HELP: SAMSHA National Helpline - mental health + substance use support and resources 24/7/365 (www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline)

1.800.273.8255: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline - suicide and crisis call and chat based support 24/7/365 (www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org)

1.800.273.TALK or text DBSA to 741.741: Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance - support and resources for depression and bipolar (www.dbsalliance.org)

1.866.488.7386: The Trevor Project - text, phone, and chat support, crisis intervention, suicide prevention, and resources for LGBTQ young peope (www.thetrevorproject.org)

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HBO’s In Treatment is back for a fourth season starring Emmy winner Uzo Aduba (Orange Is The New Black) as the central therapist, Dr. Brooke Taylor. Each week, join writer and actor Brandon Kyle Goodman (Big Mouth; Modern Love) and licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Janelle S. Peifer to break down new episodes of the series. Our hosts dive into Dr. Taylor’s week, demystify the process of therapy, and examine the relationship between therapist and patient—all with a healthy dose of humor and joy. In Session: The In Treatment Podcast is produced by HBO in conjunction with Pineapple Street Studios.

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