In The Blink of AI with Georgie Healy

Laura McClure, Member of Parliament for the ACT Party in New Zealand, joins In the Blink of AI to unpack her viral deepfake experience, her groundbreaking member’s bill, and why tech regulation must protect victims without stifling innovation.

In a powerful conversation, Laura reveals how she created a deepfake of herself in minutes—and why it’s a wake-up call for policymakers worldwide. She shares insights on balancing tech freedoms with responsible safeguards, why regulation is about behaviour not banning tools, and how New Zealand’s slow policy-making could leave them lagging behind.

Laura also discusses how ACT’s libertarian values shape her pro-innovation, pro-startup stance and why deepfakes are a threat not just to teenagers, but to democracy itself. From the electricity grid challenges that could stall New Zealand’s AI adoption to the opportunities in agriculture and defence, this is a must-listen for founders, policymakers, and anyone passionate about the future of technology.

02:20 – Meet Laura McClure (ACT Party MP): From accidental politician to tech advocate

07:25 – Why Laura Entered Politics: Tackling New Zealand’s alarming government debt

09:13 – AI Hacks of the Week: Game-changing educational tech and viral LinkedIn strategies

13:24 – Going Viral with a Nude Deepfake: The shocking truth behind Laura’s Parliament demonstration

23:47 – Why Target Individuals, Not Tech: How Laura’s bill tackles deepfake abuse effectively

27:16 – Pro-Tech, Not Pro-Regulation: Laura’s vision to accelerate AI adoption in NZ and Australia

35:01 – The Infrastructure Challenge: What NZ must fix to power an AI-driven future

39:57 – Skills for the AI Era: Why critical thinking trumps rote learning

44:50 – Laura’s AI-Powered NZ: Her 5–10 year vision of an AI-enabled economy

👩‍💼 Laura McClure on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7330443186185613312/

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Kunal Gupta, founder, investor, and author of 2034: How AI Changed Humanity Forever, joins Georgie Healy for a deep dive into the intersection of AI, self-awareness, and responsible innovation. From his base in sunny Lisbon, and with a live cameo from his AI clone, Kunal shares how meditation, writing, and intentional living helped him navigate burnout and build resilience in the fast-paced world of AI.

This episode unpacks the rise of the “digital aristocracy,” explores the untapped potential of AI literacy as the next great equaliser, and reveals Kunal’s personal hacks for balancing the demands of a hyper-connected world. He also gives listeners an inside look at his acclaimed AI newsletter, Pivot Five, and why consistency, and curiosity, are key to building authentic communities in the AI era.

Whether you’re an entrepreneur, AI enthusiast, or just trying to find balance in an AI-driven world, Kunal’s insights will inspire you to ask the right questions, and stay human at the heart of it all.

03:06 — How Meditation Helped Kunal Conquer Burnout

07:49 — From Burnout to Introspection: The Power of Knowing Yourself

11:13 — Kunal’s First Ever Blog Post: A Time Audit That Changed Everything

15:17 — AI Hack of the Week: Summarising PDFs with ChatGPT

17:44 — The Value of Prompting ChatGPT to Learn About Yourself

20:20 — Why Kunal Wrote 2034, And What’s Already Coming True

22:24 — The Rise of the Digital Aristocracy and AI’s Social Divide

29:21 — Designing AI for Seniors: A Huge Untapped Opportunity

31:19 — Why AI Literacy is the Next Big Equalizer

35:00 — Experimenting with Kunal’s AI Clone—Live on Air

38:57 — The Ethics of AI: Enhancing Humanity vs. Diminishing It

42:03 — How Education Must Adapt for AI Literacy

46:41 — Building Communities & Movements in the AI Era

48:15 — Staying True to Yourself: Consistency, Expectation, and Trust

50:16 — Rapid Fire: AI Dinner Guests, AI Music, and Tech’s Next Big Bets

53:13 — The Great Humbling of Humanity: The Future of Work & Skills

👨‍💻 Kunal Gupta on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/bykunal/

📚 Pivot Five AI Newsletter – https://pivot5.beehiiv.com/

📝 How to Live Weekly Journal – https://www.howto.live/

📘 2034: How AI Changed Humanity Forever (Book) – https://www.amazon.com/2034-How-Changed-Humanity-Forever/dp/B0D8VB32NJ

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Oscar Wahltinez, AI engineer at Google Sydney and longtime advocate for responsible AI, joins In The Blink of AI to demystify the most hyped, and misunderstood, parts of the AI revolution. From model size myths and token prediction mechanics to the surprising truth behind model leaderboards, Oscar explains the inner workings of large language models (LLMs) in clear, human terms.

With nearly a decade at Google, including time at the legendary Mountain View campus, Oscar shares his technical insights, product gripes (sorry, Google Assistant), and reflections on what it actually means to build AI responsibly. You’ll hear about the core innovations behind modern LLMs, the rise of decoder-only models, and the power of RAG systems and embeddings. He also calls on AI startups to stop obsessing over the models, and start building for real users.

If you’re wondering how AI models actually work, what responsible AI looks like in practice, or whether AGI will be our greatest asset or deepest threat, this one’s for you.

02:14 – Oscar’s Role at Google & Why Responsible AI Matters

06:04 – Hack of the Week: Using Gemini (and Oscar’s Honest Review)

10:07 – How LLMs Really Work (and Why It’s Just Predicting the Next Word)

14:21 – From Transformers to Emergent Behaviours: What Surprised Engineers

21:29 – AI Leaderboards, Model Size & the Case for Smaller Systems

28:40 – Decoder vs Encoder Models: What You Actually Need to Know

33:15 – How RAG & Embeddings Power Real-World AI Products

36:41 – What Is Responsible AI? And Why You Can’t Bolt It On Later

39:17 – Building Responsibly on a Budget: Oscar’s Advice to Founders

43:46 – Product Confession: Why Google Assistant Let Him Down

45:05 – AGI: Net Positive or Existential Risk?

👨‍💻 Oscar Wahltinez on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/owahltinez/

📚 Google’s Responsible Generative AI Toolkit – https://ai.google.dev/responsible

🚀 Google AI First Accelerator – https://startup.google.com/programs/accelerator/ai-first/australia/

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🎟 Live Show at UNSW – May 29

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Katherine Boiciuc, Chief Technology and Innovation Officer at EY Oceania, delivers a powerful wake-up call on why Australia is at risk of becoming a global AI laggard. With a unique perspective at the intersection of technology, innovation, and policy, Katherine breaks down how Australia, despite inventing WiFi, is sitting on the sidelines of the AI revolution, missing a $115 billion economic opportunity. She shares how EY has up-skilled over 85% of its 400,000-strong workforce in AI, built the world’s largest private AI platform, and implemented AI agents at scale, while most organisations are still debating their first AI hires.

This episode dives deep into what Australia needs to do now to avoid falling irreversibly behind, from setting a bold national AI strategy to investing in mass up-skilling programs and embracing AI across industries like healthcare, financial services, retail, and energy. Katherine also offers inspiring and practical advice for women looking to pivot into AI, shares her favourite tools and productivity hacks (including the AI prompt that gives her “permission to log off” for the day), and calls on every listener to claim their seat at the AI table, before it’s too late.

03:03 – What Is EY’s AI Story & Their Internal AI Training Playbook

06:28 – EY’s Private AI Platform: How EYQ Empowers 120,000+ Employees

13:48 – Australia’s Missed Economic Opportunity: $115B at Stake

16:51 – Why EY Built the AI Sentiment Index, And What It Revealed

23:32 – The Three Fixes Needed to Course-Correct Australia’s AI Future

30:40 – The Five Industries Australians Want AI To Transform

35:18 – KB’s Advice for Women Reentering the Workforce in the AI Age

39:39 – Rapid Fire: Why Voice-Activated AI Is the Next Big Frontier

🙋‍♀️ Katherine Boiciuc on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherineboiciuc/

📚 EY Skills Passport for Free AI Training - https://www.ey.com/en_gl/ai-skills-passport

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🎟 Live Show at UNSW – May 29

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Jacky Koh, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Relevance AI, has been building AI agents long before they became the hottest trend of 2025. Fresh off their Series B raise, Relevance AI is on a mission to democratise access to AI agents, making them easy to build for everyone, not just engineers.

In this conversation, Jacky unpacks why most “AI agents” today are just glorified workflows, how real multi-agent systems will power the future of business automation, and why Australia needs to think bigger if it wants to compete globally. Plus, he shares the origin story of Relevance AI’s iconic pixel-art agents, how he leads calmly under pressure, and his spicy predictions for AI’s next black swan event.

00:00 – Introduction: Who is Jacky Koh & What is Relevance AI?

03:26 – Why AI Agents Aren’t Just for Developers Anymore

05:42 – Should You Still Study Software Engineering in the Age of AI?

12:24 – The Origin Story of Relevance AI and Their Pivot to Agents

14:16 – What People Get Wrong About AI Agents (Single vs. Multi-Agent Systems)

17:43 – Are Most AI Agents Just Glorified Workflows?

19:25 – Why Relevance AI Uses Pixel Characters (Hint: Pokémon Fans Will Love This)

23:41 – How Jacky Manages Stress and Crisis Moments as a Founder

28:37 – Building a Global Business: The Difference Between Aussie & U.S. Investors

34:47 – How Founders Should Pick AI Models and Avoid Lock-In

40:51 – Jacky’s Hot Take: The One Black Swan AI Event We Might See This Year

47:02 – How to Keep AI Agents Ethical

50:51 – Rapid Fire: Silicon Valley Myths, Scary AI Headlines & Favourite Pokémon

👨🏻‍💻 Jacky Koh’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackykoh/

🤖 Relevance AI – https://relevanceai.com/

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🎟 Live Show at UNSW – May 29

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Millie Marconi is the founder and CEO of Yesterday, and the creator of Test Feed, a breakout AI tool that lets users preview how their content will land with a synthetic audience before posting it online. In this episode, Millie shares the story behind building Test Feed after a viral LinkedIn post backfired and sparked a personal reckoning around reputational risk.

We explore how synthetic audiences are making elite-level brand testing accessible to everyday founders, why building in public is both terrifying and empowering, and what non-technical founders can bring to the AI table. Millie also opens up about her nomadic lifestyle, her favorite AI tools (Claude and Gemini, anyone?), and the unexpected upside of being “canceled.”

02:25 – What Millie’s Building: Yesterday & Test Feed

04:52 – Why Synthetic Audiences Are a Game-Changer

06:14 – The Demo That Went Viral: Over 800 Signups

07:58 – How a Personal Misstep Sparked the Idea for Test Feed

10:43 – Who Test Feed Is For: Founders, Content Creators, and Social Media Managers

13:11 – Building in Public vs. Stealth Mode

16:48 – Female Founders, Visibility & Vulnerability

19:52 – What Non-Technical Founders Bring to the AI Era

22:45 – Integrating AI into Test Feed as a Non-Technical Founder

26:20 – AI Tools Millie Loves: Claude, Cursor, Gemini, and More

33:43 – Just Play: How to Get Started with AI Without the Overwhelm

36:06 – Digital Nomad Life: Lessons From 2.5 Years on the Move

42:17 – Rapid Fire: Guess That Cringe Tweet (Trump vs Elon Edition)

🙋‍♀️ Follow Millie on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/millie-marconi/

💼 Yesterday Testfeed - https://yesterday.work/

🧵 Millie’s LinkedIn Post on “Masculine Energy” - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/millie-marconi_after-interviewing-100-hr-leaders-about-activity-7284745207923781632-QU-X?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAACb9cQIBMRvkSzVlzjznYUqzAEsWp-Q5zBo

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🎟 Live Show at UNSW – May 29

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Anish Sinha, co-founder of upcover, blends his background in finance, startups, and risk management to tackle one of Australia’s overlooked challenges: the future of AI and innovation policy. From building a modern insurance platform serving 60,000+ businesses to sounding the alarm on Australia’s absence of AI strategy, Anish’s story shows how bold thinking and practical execution go hand-in-hand.

In this conversation, he shares insights on why the government’s silence on AI is a major risk, how Australia could learn from China’s tech playbook, and how AI agents will reshape the future of business operations — including in highly regulated industries like insurance.

01:10 – Introduction: Who is Anish Sinha & What upcover Does

02:49 – Why Insurance Tech Is “Sexy” When You Frame It as Risk

04:54 – From Goldman Sachs to Founder: Finance Lessons for Entrepreneurs

09:23 – Australia’s Federal Budget Omits AI: The Strategic Blind Spot

13:11 – What Australia Can Learn from China & the U.S. on Innovation Policy

18:39 – Cybersecurity Funding Crisis: Why $20 per Business Isn’t Enough

22:35 – AI Agents Unpacked: Hype, Promise, and Agent-to-Agent Flows

30:51 – upcover’s AI in Action: Automating Quotes & Data Structuring

36:34 – Hot Takes: Aussie Deep Tech Faves (Samsara Eco, Cover Genius, Gilmour Space)

42:18 – Future Insurability: Climate Risk, AGI Concerns & Startups to Watch

🙋🏻‍♂️ Anish Sinha’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/anishsinha13/

🏢 upcover Website – https://upcover.com/

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🎟 Live Show at UNSW – May 29

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Alain Richardt, founder of Atomic Tessellator, combines deep expertise in chemistry, quantum mechanics, and AI to accelerate groundbreaking discoveries in material science. From childhood experiments with toxic chemistry sets to building high-powered simulation tools capable of modeling complex atomic interactions, Alain’s journey highlights the transformative potential of marrying traditional chemistry with cutting-edge AI. In this conversation, he explains how AI-driven simulations now achieve results thousands of times faster than traditional methods, shares ambitious projects like developing fusion reactor materials, and reveals the exciting future of “declarative materials” where scientists specify desired properties, and AI generates the perfect material match.

02:21 – Alain’s Early Chemistry Adventures & Favourite Element (Molybdenum)

05:12 – Mercury Experiments: Crazy Ideas & Influential Teachers

08:19 – Why Alain Founded Atomic Tessellator: Fixing Broken Chemistry Tools

11:38 – Force Field vs. Quantum (DFT) Simulations Explained

15:25 – How Cloud Computing & AI are Revolutionising Chemistry Simulations

17:53 – Promising Applications: Fusion Reactors & Plasma-Facing Materials

23:08 – When AI Simulations Go Rogue: Unexpected (and Expensive) Results

26:04 – Decoding AI Headlines: Schrödinger’s Cat & Quantum Computing Explained

35:09 – Measuring Success as a Founder: Experimental Parity & New Material Discoveries

41:39 – Hot Takes: Periodic Table Merch, Atomic Cocktails, and the Joy of Being a Rebel Founder

🙋🏻‍♂️ Alain’s Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alain-richardt/

🔬 Atomic Tessellator - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atomictessellator/

⚛️ Interactive Periodic Table https://atomictessellator.com/ptable

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🎟 Live Show at UNSW – May 29

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Will Liang, CEO of Amplify AI Group (www.amplifygroup.ai) and a Linkedin Top Voice in AI, joins the show to unpack the real-world impact of AI on business. A professional Go player turned deep tech expert, Will shares why most AI agents are just glorified workflows, why Perplexity AI is winning without its own model, and how companies can move beyond AI as a buzzword to embed it into their core operations. He also weighs in on whether Nvidia will remain dominant, how Claude and Gemini stack up against ChatGPT, and what he'd prioritize if he were CEO of OpenAI.

01:20 – From MA Financial to AI Venture: Will’s bold new chapter

05:35 – Why most businesses still don’t actually use AI

07:18 – The “Purple Person” bridging tech and business

08:56 – What AlphaGo taught Will about the future of AI

11:16 – What is an AI agent? Will’s pineapple analogy

16:00 – Financial services + AI: A real-world use case

18:20 – Does AI raise the ceiling—or just the floor?

24:00 – Perplexity AI’s $18B valuation without its own LLM

30:06 – The “AI-first” mindset and Will’s productivity hack

33:47 – Will Nvidia stay dominant? Or is Apple, Google, DeepSeek catching up?

38:39 – Claude vs. ChatGPT vs. Gemini – What Will uses and why

👨‍💻Follow Will Liang on LinkedIn

Weekly insights and top 5 tech takeaways – https://www.linkedin.com/in/will--liang

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