In The Blink of AI with Georgie Healy

Georgie Healy speaks with Elena Tsalanidis and Justin Hansky, co-founders of Deeligence, a legal AI startup transforming the way law firms handle M&A due diligence. Both ex-lawyers, Elena and Justin share how their deep domain expertise led them to build an AI platform that accelerates contract review with accuracy lawyers can trust, without ever compromising on confidentiality.

They reveal why generic tools like ChatGPT fall short in legal workflows, and how Deeligence combines machine learning with human oversight to safely automate one of the most tedious parts of legal practice. The duo breaks down the erosion of the billable hour, the rise of vertical AI tools, and why some partners still red-pen documents like it’s 1998.

Throughout the episode, they reflect on the cultural barriers to AI adoption in law, the importance of custom training data, and the pressures of building AI-native products for regulated, high-stakes environments. Elena and Justin also share candid takes on fundraising, global expansion, and how legal AI can empower rather than replace lawyers.

Whether you’re in law, tech, or somewhere in between, this episode offers a rare look into building AI that doesn’t just work, but works where it really matters.

01:06 – Big Announcement: The First-Ever Live Show

Georgie reveals exciting news about In the Blink of AI going live at UNSW.

01:31 – Introducing Deeligence

Meet co-founders Elena and Justin, who left corporate law to build an AI platform for M&A due diligence.

02:19 – The Billable Hour: Why It’s Getting Eroded

How AI is forcing law firms to question time-based billing.

05:00 – Why ChatGPT Doesn’t Cut It in Legal

Elena explains the confidentiality nightmare and “hallucinations” that make generic LLMs risky.

09:29 – Will AI Replace Junior Lawyers?

Elena and Justin share their nuanced take on the future of entry-level legal roles.

12:50 – Supercharging, Not Replacing

Why Deeligence focuses on helping lawyers rather than automating them out of a job.

16:18 – Avoiding AI Hallucinations

Justin on how Deeligence meticulously sources evidence to ensure accurate contract summaries.

28:33 – Scaling Deeligence Globally

Why expanding into the UK and US is a natural next step—and what it takes to get there.

34:18 – Hot Takes: Vertical AI vs. Everything Else

Elena and Justin weigh in on AI agents, overhyped tools, and why deep domain expertise wins.

46:36 – The Best (and Most Real) Legal TV Show

Justin’s pick for legal TV done right—and why he loves it more than Suits.

🎤Live show announcement: In the Blink of AI is going live on Thursday, May 29 at University of New South Wales (UNSW) featuring Andrew McCarthy, Head of APAC at Notion.

📍https://bit.ly/BAI-LiveEvent

💼Deeligence: The AI-powered legal tech startup transforming M&A due diligence.

https://www.deeligence.com

🙋‍♀️ Elena’s Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-tsalanidis/

🙋🏻‍♂️ Justin’s Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-hansky-70154693/

📺Fisk – Justin’s favourite legal TV show, starring Kitty Flanagan https://iview.abc.net.au/show/fisk

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Denise Farmer, General Manager of APAC at Clio, the world's largest legal technology platform, joins Georgie Healy to discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping the legal sector. With over 20 years in legal tech, Denise highlights why lawyers using AI will outperform their competitors and why fears of AI replacing lawyers are misguided.

She explains how AI tools are eliminating administrative tasks, reshaping billing models beyond hourly rates, and opening the door for more accessible legal services. Denise also shares insights into Australia's progressive regulatory stance on responsible AI use, the ethical implications lawyers must consider, and practical steps for legal professionals adopting AI in their practice.

This conversation offers clear insights into AI’s transformative impact on law firms, providing lawyers and legal tech enthusiasts actionable strategies to leverage these tools safely and effectively.

00:00 – Introduction

02:56 – Australia's legal tech future and rapid AI adoption

08:41 – The shift from hourly billing to AI-driven pricing models

12:47 – Will AI replace lawyers? Why adopting AI is critical

17:58 – Moving beyond admin tasks: Focusing lawyers on strategic, high-value work

21:00 – AI use cases transforming law firms (and pitfalls to avoid)

30:16 – Predicting AI’s impact on law firms in the next 5 years

- Denise Farmer’s LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/denisefarmer/

- Clio – Leading cloud-based legal technology platform https://www.clio.com/

- Clio’s Legal Trends Report – Insights into billing models and productivity https://www.clio.com/resources/legal-trends/

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Georgie Healy speaks with Michelle Gilmore, co-founder of Juno, an AI-driven interviewer built to deeply understand customers without bias. Michelle, a seasoned behavioural researcher, reveals the overlooked importance of thorough customer research, sharing why so many founders avoid it despite its immense value. She explains how Juno overcomes human biases in traditional surveys, enabling businesses of all sizes to access honest, real-time insights previously reserved for companies with large budgets.

Michelle outlines her rigorous approach to building an AI product, rooted in experimentation, continuous validation, and a willingness to venture into uncertainty. She also discusses the challenges and paradoxes of scaling an AI startup, including navigating abundance and staying mission-focused.

Throughout the conversation, Michelle offers candid reflections on her entrepreneurial journey, the reality of running a venture-backed AI company, and why success hinges on deeply understanding human behaviour. She also touches on Juno's thoughtful personality design, balancing neutrality with empathy to capture truthful customer experiences.

01:10 – Introducing Michelle Gilmore and the vision behind Juno

02:19 – Why so many founders fear talking directly to customers

05:00 – When should founders start customer research? (Hint: it's immediately)

07:24 – What does a behavioural research expert actually do?

09:18 – How AI helps overcome human bias in surveys and interviews

13:42 – The hidden dangers of relying on biased data (Michelle shares a shocking story)

16:35 – You've gathered customer data. What's next?

21:07 – How Juno's personality was thoughtfully designed

25:59 – Can AI models really detect human emotions during customer interviews?

34:05 – The hardest part of building an AI product that no one talks about

38:23 – Navigating the tough choices: are there companies Juno wouldn’t work with?

40:35 – Michelle’s view on uncertainty and why founders should embrace it

47:01 – What really keeps a venture-backed founder awake at night

Michelle's email - [email protected]

Michelle's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellejoygilmore/

Juno – AI-led customer interviews for unbiased insights (https://www.heyjuno.co)

Neo – Michelle's previous channel-agnostic design agency

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Georgie Healy goes solo to address listeners' burning questions about AI's impact on jobs, careers, and the future of work. Drawing on insights from previous podcast guests, Georgie explores which jobs AI will transform, how professionals can adapt, and why emotional intelligence might be our greatest advantage. She also shares her personal journey, from chemical engineering to running Google's AI accelerator, offering actionable advice to stay competitive and fulfilled in an AI-driven world.

00:00 – Georgie's first solo episode & her unconventional career journey

02:18 – Will AI take your job? Georgie's candid take

03:29 – Jobs most likely impacted by AI (hint: intuition matters!)

06:00 – Is AI really an existential risk? Georgie addresses fears & myths

08:03 – Companies making waves in AI (and why it matters)

10:03 – AI tools and skills YOU should be mastering right now

12:53 – The best strategies for upskilling (practical tips!)

13:11 – Georgie's personal career bet: why she's doubling down on her strengths

15:11 – Final advice: Leveraging AI to empower your career (with a memorable quote!)

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AI isn't just assisting game developers; it's changing how games are fundamentally experienced. Marty Burgess, CEO and co-founder of Lightning Forge Games (LFG), explores the game-changing (literally!) potential of AI agents that seamlessly replace players during internet outages, replicate pro gamers, and even play on your behalf. He reveals how LFG's AI-driven gaming tools aren't just for internal use, they're opening up a SaaS platform, Saturn AI, to share these innovations across the industry.

Marty explains the concept of "perfect game balance" and "dynamic worlds," detailing how AI can deliver tailored gaming experiences suited precisely to individual players. He shares his personal gaming inspirations, from childhood favourites to the current landscape of hyper-personalised, always-evolving gameplay. Marty and Georgie also discuss the importance of making games as fun to watch as they are to play, why AI can transform traditional storytelling in gaming, and the challenges of managing high compute costs.

Throughout the conversation, Marty emphasises inclusivity in gaming, celebrates the diverse gaming community, and discusses the upcoming showcase of LFG's flagship title, Gladiator Mayhem, at the Game Developers Conference.

00:00 – Replacing disconnected gamers seamlessly with AI agents

01:32 – Introduction to Marty Burgess, CEO of Lightning Forge Games (LFG)

02:33 – Marty shares the inspiration behind his passion: Sid Meier's Pirates

04:58 – How LFG uses AI at the core of gaming experiences

07:24 – AI agents playing on your behalf: revolutionary or controversial?

09:04 – Filling multiplayer matches instantly using AI-driven agents

12:10 – What exactly is "perfect game balance"?

14:39 – Using AI to process massive amounts of game data effectively

19:22 – Can AI help non-gamers discover a love for gaming?

25:00 – How AI could make interactive fiction hyper-personalised

29:02 – Understanding the concept of a "dynamic world" in gaming

34:01 – AI playing Pokémon & Mario: Is it a good indicator of AI's potential?

37:00 – Will people actually enjoy watching AI play games?

39:05 – Lightning Forge Games announces its flagship title, Gladiator Mayhem

40:53 – Rapid-fire Q&A: Marty names gaming’s GOAT (sort of!)

43:21 – Marty’s passionate take on the best age to get into gaming

45:10 – Hiring dilemma: Choose between an AI expert or an avid gamer?

47:58 – Marty’s shout-out: How listeners can support Lightning Forge Games

Marty’s Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marty-burgess/

Lightning Forge Games (LFG) – AI and blockchain-powered gaming studio - https://lightningforge.games/

Saturn AI – LFG’s upcoming SaaS product bringing AI agents to all game developers

Game Developers Conference (GDC) – Premier professional event in gaming - https://gdconf.com/

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AI can transform how you work, and you don’t need to be an expert to take advantage of it. Gareth Rydon, co-founder of Friyay, breaks down some of the most powerful AI tools for productivity, from meeting transcription assistants to AI-powered shopping hacks. This episode dives into practical ways to integrate AI into everyday tasks, how to think about AI models like ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini, and why you should stop stressing over perfect prompts. Plus, Gareth shares his insights on the evolving landscape of generative AI, the competition between LLMs, and which AI tools are actually worth your time.

00:00 – Intro: The myth of the "perfect prompt" and why you don’t need to save lists of them

02:18 – What is Friyay, and how it helps businesses implement AI

03:22 – The AI tool that made Gareth’s LinkedIn post go viral

05:34 – AI in real life: Using ChatGPT for meal planning and school schedules

09:04 – AI Tool #1: Otter AI – The best AI-powered meeting assistant

13:19 – Why AI note-taking is better than manual transcription

17:35 – How accurate are AI transcription tools?

22:32 – The AI model race: OpenAI vs. DeepSeek vs. Google vs. XAI

26:02 – The celebrity personalities of AI models (ChatGPT as Matt Damon?)

32:20 – AI Tool #2: GPT-4o’s 03 Mini Mode – The ultimate online shopping assistant

37:43 – Pro tip: How to find discount codes with AI

41:55 – Why you should ask AI to prompt itself

1. Friyay – Generative AI studio helping businesses integrate AI (https://www.friyay.ai)
2. Otter AI – AI-powered meeting transcription and note-taking (https://otter.ai)
3. ChatGPT 03 Mini – OpenAI’s reasoning model, great for online shopping (https://openai.com)
4. DeepSeek AI – Open-source LLM making waves in AI accessibility
5. One Useful Thing – AI insights from Ethan Mollick

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In this episode of "In the Blink of AI," host Georgie Healy interviews Steve Hind, co-founder of Lorikeet, a leading AI customer support platform tailored for complex industries like FinTech and health tech. Steve discusses the evolving landscape of AI, addressing common misconceptions about its capabilities and the importance of prioritising customer experience. He emphasises that delivering effective support, whether through humans or AI, hinges on the intent and goals of the business.

Steve elaborates on the uniqueness of Lorikeet's platform, which enables companies to train AI agents to handle intricate support queries, and highlights the significance of understanding the diverse needs of customers across various sectors. The conversation also touches upon the recent $14 million funding round for Lorikeet and the impact of AI technologies like Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) in enhancing customer support.

Throughout the discussion, Steve shares insights on the importance of empathy in AI interactions, the role of customisation in chatbot personalities, and the necessity for businesses to adapt to the fast-paced AI advancements. He concludes with a reminder to approach AI with a mindset focused on improving customer experiences, urging listeners to be kind to AI as it continues to evolve.

00:00 – Why AI customer support gets a bad reputation

01:52 – What makes Lorikeet different from other AI support tools

02:49 – Why banks and healthcare companies need AI-driven customer support

09:00 – What is RAG, and why does it matter for AI-powered customer service?

14:09 – The biggest mistake AI chatbots make in customer support

16:26 – What does "agentic reasoning" really mean?

19:12 – The cost of running AI models and why RAG reduces compute power

27:46 – AI tools Steve uses every day (and his take on Perplexity and Replit)

30:36 – How to stand out when applying for an AI job

39:18 – What people get wrong about AGI and AI scaling laws

Lorikeet – AI-powered customer support for FinTechs and health techs (https://www.lorikeetcx.ai/)

Blackbird Ventures, Square Peg, Skip Capital – Major investors in Lorikeet

Replit & Cursor – AI-powered developer tools for software engineering

Perplexity AI – AI search and research assistant

Superhuman AI – AI-powered email client with automated responses

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In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie Healy chats with Jing Wei, Lead AI Engineer at Fetch, an InsurTech startup backed by Airtree. Fetch is leveraging AI to streamline pet insurance claims, making vet care more accessible and efficient.

Jing shares insights into AI’s role in pet healthcare, tackling handwritten vet notes, PDFs, and complex medical data to speed up claims processing. She also discusses the rise of robotic pets, including China's viral AI guinea pig Boo Boo, and the implications of AI-driven pet monitoring.

The conversation explores how AI is improving veterinary diagnostics, the challenges of building AI models, and the unexpected costs of running AI startups. If you’re curious about AI in pet healthcare, robotic pets, or the technical realities of AI adoption, this episode is for you!

00:00 – How AI is transforming pet healthcare

01:11 – What is Fetch and how does AI improve pet insurance?

06:00 – The rise of AI-powered robotic pets like Boo Boo

13:29 – AI-powered pet monitoring: Useful or dystopian?

16:11 – Can AI detect pet emotions and health issues?

30:23 – The biggest challenge in AI: Handling unstructured vet records

34:57 – Why PDFs are AI’s worst nightmare in pet insurance

38:42 – The real cost of AI: Jing’s accidental $1,000 cloud bill

39:35 – Fetch’s expansion plans: Taking AI-powered pet insurance global

46:04 – Why pet owners should brush their pet’s teeth to avoid massive vet bills

- Fetch: InsurTech startup focused on pet insurance, utilising AI to streamline claims.

- Google AI Accelerator: Program where Jing Wei refined her AI implementation skills.

- Archive: Platform for non-peer-reviewed research papers, commonly used to find the latest AI research.

- Hangzhou Genmo Technology: Company that produced the AI guinea pig called Boo Boo.

- Tably: An app that reads cat facial cues to assess their emotions and health.

- OCR (Optical Character Recognition): Technology used for text extraction from images and documents.

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In this episode of In the Blink of AI, host Georgie Healy sits down with Danielle Haj-Moussa, an investor at Main Sequence, Australia’s largest deep-tech VC fund. As the first VC guest on the podcast, Danielle offers a rare inside look into what investors are really looking for in AI startups, how scaling laws are shaping the future of AI, and whether we are in an AI bubble.

She dives deep into the intersection of AI and robotics, how foundational AI models are impacting real-world applications, and why Australian founders are uniquely positioned to thrive in deep tech. Danielle also shares her thoughts on AGI, AI bias, and compute efficiency, plus an unexpected insight into why so many deep-tech VCs are also DJs!

If you’re a founder, investor, or just someone who wants to understand how AI startups succeed, this episode is packed with valuable insights.

00:00 Scaling Laws & AI's Constant Evolution

04:05 What Makes Deep-Tech VC Different?

07:25 AI and Robotics: The Next Big Leap

09:58 Is the AI Boom a Bubble?

14:49 How to Spot a True AI Bubble

18:25 Scaling Laws: Why They Matter (and Their Limits)

21:47 The Future of Compute and AI Infrastructure

27:37 What Investors Look for in AI Startups

30:09 Can AI Startups Compete with Tech Giants?

39:38 The AI Job Market: Will AI Replace or Create Jobs?

44:44 AGI: Should We Be Freaked Out?

48:19 The Regulatory Landscape for AI Startups

51:11 VC Myths: Are Investors Just Vulture Capitalists?

1. Main Sequence – Australia’s largest deep-tech VC fund
2. Lovable – AI-powered tool for instant app creation
3. Rekordbox – DJ software used by professionals
4. Danielle Haj-Moussa's Linkedin

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In this episode of In The Blink of AI, Georgie Healy sits down with Dr. Kevin Cheng, Chief Customer Officer at Harrison AI, one of Australia’s most successful AI startups. Harrison AI is transforming the medical field by developing AI-powered solutions that assist radiologists and pathologists in diagnosing diseases with greater speed and accuracy.

Dr. Cheng shares the real-world impact of AI in healthcare, including a compelling story of how their AI system detected early-stage lung cancer in a UK patient, potentially saving her life. He also dives into the challenges of building AI in healthcare, the role of regulatory frameworks, and the future of consumer-driven healthcare innovations.

The conversation covers AI’s potential to enhance medical workflows, reduce clinician burnout, and increase accessibility to quality healthcare—especially in underserved regions. Kevin also addresses common concerns about AI replacing human doctors and explains why he believes AI will always be an assistive tool rather than a replacement. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of AI, healthcare, and innovation.

00:00 AI Detects Early-Stage Lung Cancer: A Life-Saving Moment

00:33 Introduction to Dr. Kevin Cheng & Harrison AI

02:14 How AI is Transforming Radiology and Pathology

03:57 Why Kevin Left Medicine to Join Harrison AI

06:23 The Challenges of Building AI in Healthcare

09:19 Global Regulatory Hurdles and Market Expansion

12:34 How AI Supports, Not Replaces, Doctors

16:40 The Future of AI in Consumer-Driven Healthcare

32:04 Real-World Impact: A Patient’s Life Saved by AI

36:48 The Road Ahead: Scaling AI to Millions of Patients

39:25 Addressing Public Fear and Misinformation About AI

42:27 Can AI Reduce the Cost of Healthcare?

44:30 AI’s Role in Providing Healthcare Access to Underserved Populations

45:25 Will AI Replace Human Doctors? Kevin’s Perspective

46:44 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

Harrison AI – Australia’s leading AI-powered medical diagnostics company

Annalise.ai – AI-driven radiology platform that assists with X-rays and scans

Franklin.ai – AI system for pathology, improving the accuracy of tissue diagnosis

BBC Interview with Diane – Story of a UK patient whose early-stage lung cancer was detected by AI

FDA & European Regulatory Frameworks – Key differences in AI validation processes

Telehealth & Consumer Health Trends – The shift towards at-home medical diagnostics

Blackbird Ventures – VC firm backing Harrison AI and other Australian startups

"In this particular scenario, AI picked up a subtle finding—stage one lung cancer—allowing for immediate treatment. That’s the difference between life and death." — Dr. Kevin Cheng

"AI isn’t replacing doctors. It’s augmenting their ability to diagnose, reducing errors, and giving them a second pair of eyes." — Dr. Kevin Cheng

"Healthcare is evolving. Patients are demanding more access, better efficiency, and AI is making that possible." — Dr. Kevin Cheng

"We have over a thousand sites live today, processing more than seven million cases a year. Our goal? A million cases a day." — Dr. Kevin Cheng

"AI can be a great leveler in healthcare, especially in regions with clinician shortages. The challenge now is making the business model sustainable." — Dr. Kevin Cheng

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