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Joel Van der Loon and Eva Müller explore energy healing from a practical, experience-led perspective. Joel shares his own intense somatic releases and spiritual transformation after divorce, while Eva explains how she works with high vibrational divine energies to clear stuck emotions, expand the system, and support healing.
We discuss why energy work is difficult to understand until it is felt, how childhood conditioning and stored emotion shape adult life, and why both speakers see present-moment awareness as central to healing. The conversation also covers intuition, vibration, God, and how Eva’s group-based work is designed to support ongoing transformation.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Joel introduces Eva and frames energy healing as a real, lived experience
03:11 - Joel describes full-body release, chakra work, and somatic clearing
05:45 - Eva explains how she transmits high vibrational divine energies
07:25 - Clearing stuck emotion, ancestral patterns, and past life influences
08:48 - Life energy, chakras, and why openness creates flow
10:55 - Mysticism, direct experience, and why the present moment matters
13:17 - How energetic blockage can become physical illness
15:25 - Resistance, surrender, and staying aligned with life
16:19 - Why the mind drags people into past and future
18:24 - Energy available now versus self-created obstacles
20:45 - Childhood conditioning from ages one to seven
23:04 - Triggers, stored pain, and subconscious belief systems
25:01 - Why somatic healing matters more than insight alone
27:22 - Eva’s path into energy work and early experiences of silence
29:39 - Working beyond the mind and feeling energy in the body
33:12 - Energy as vibration, information, and transformation
35:07 - Reality as a mirror of inner vibration
38:46 - Atoms, nonmatter, and the vibrational nature of reality
40:23 - Nature, high vibration, and emotional states
44:08 - Clearing low vibrational emotions versus processing them mentally
45:41 - Why triggered states lose power once the system is cleared
46:37 - Fast-track healing through high vibrational energies
47:36 - Sitting with emotion instead of suppressing it
49:32 - Joel asks about channeling and guidance
51:09 - Eva describes channeling energy and receiving information as knowing
52:34 - Hands, intention, and developing a personal framework
54:48 - Healing unfinished emotional energy from childhood
56:49 - Why the mind is a small part of the human system
57:19 - How thoughts are formed from energy and stored information
58:40 - Why thoughts disappear when the system clears
60:06 - Sensitivity, boundaries, and tuning into energy only when needed
66:27 - Eva’s view of God, creation, and the divine mother
72:19 - Eva explains her offerings and group-based energetic work
74:11 - Free Thursday meditation, guided practice, and Q&A
76:34 - Why she works with groups instead of one-on-one sessions
78:30 - Closing thanks and invitation to explore the work
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Joel Van der Loon shares a solo episode on purpose, vulnerability, and the process of uncovering what he believes the soul is here to learn in this lifetime. He explores how childhood conditioning, fear, and unconscious beliefs can block clarity, and why inner honesty, meditation, and time in nature matter for anyone trying to live more authentically.
In this episode, Joel reflects on the tension many men feel around vulnerability, the role of intuition in decision-making, and the difference between chasing external expectations versus listening to inner guidance.
Timestamps
(00:00) Opening the episode and why vulnerability matters
(00:40) Why men struggle to share cringeworthy or sensitive feelings
(01:53) The listener question that inspired the episode
(03:20) Intuition as the way to recognize truth
(04:44) Early signs of passion and life force
(05:26) Family influence, vocation, and choosing passion before money
(06:25) Independence, selfhood, and not being shaped by fear of failure
(07:06) Passion as energy and the soul’s compass
(08:01) Childhood conditioning and how beliefs get programmed early
(08:58) Why self-doubt must be questioned and challenged
(09:27) Thoughts, reality, and the first step toward purpose
(10:08) What he means by life’s purpose and the soul’s lessons
(10:39) Inner peace versus performative spirituality
(11:39) How purpose affects relationships, work, and emotional state
(12:08) Restlessness, authenticity, and midlife purpose-seeking
(13:36) Finding yourself by doing the hard work honestly
(14:45) The Boyd Vardy idea of knowing the destination without knowing the route
(15:15) Surrender, trust, and resisting the need for control
(16:10) Why inner guidance creates more peace than ego control
(17:06) Easy path versus right path
(17:34) The fog analogy, stepping stones, and moving without full certainty
(18:32) Signs, synchronicities, and bodily affirmation
(19:06) Deprogramming the mind through consistent work
(19:36) Why mindset alone is not enough and the body stores emotion
(20:35) Somatic work, energy healing, and releasing stored emotion
(21:05) Buddha, suffering, and the chatter of the subconscious mind
(22:02) Meditation and the idea of higher wisdom or the superconscious
(22:43) Simplicity over overcomplicating spirituality
(23:11) Why 2027 is framed as a major turning point
(24:25) How to meet confusion, agitation, and misalignment
(25:10) Stepping into fear and acknowledging it instead of avoiding it
(25:39) Taking stock in solitude and deciding what needs to change
(26:08) Closing thoughts, feedback, and the future direction of the podcast
(27:06) Nature, meditation, and inner tranquility as recurring themes
(27:37) Outro and call to subscribe and share
Notable quotes
“Passion to me is just an energy flow through your body.”
“Your life's purpose is your soul's purpose.”
“The most important thing that you can do right now in your life is to step into fear and let go of anything that does not serve.”
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This episode breaks down how Oregon wildlife management actually works, from agency structure and habitat biology to wolf conflict, roadkill, and mule deer decline. Jamie Bowles from the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife also shares how traditional bowhunting shaped herunderstanding of animals, predators, and the discipline required to hunt ethically.
In this episode, Joel and Jamie discuss the realities of managing wildlife as a public resource, why habitat fragmentation matters so much, and why “ballot box biology” frustrates working biologists. Jamie also explains how traditional archery changed the way she hunts and how that experience made her a better biologist.
Timestamps
00:00 - Jamie’s role as regional habitat biologist
02:19 - How Oregon’s wildlife agency is structured
03:18 - District wildlife biologists, assistants, and technicians
06:03 - Habitat division and Pittman-Robertson funding
07:01 - What a regional habitat biologist actually does
08:29 - Access and Habitat plus wildlife habitat tax incentives
10:15 - Wolf biologists and non-game wildlife work
11:12 - Game animals versus non-game animals
13:25 - Why wildlife cannot simply be left alone
14:48 - Wildlife management is really people management
17:04 - Why humans and wildlife inevitably conflict
18:29 - Bear conflicts, low berry production, and human food attractants
20:54 - Why wildlife is a public resource
21:23 - Ballot box biology and bear hunting methods
25:35 - Habitat loss, fragmentation, and migration barriers
27:29 - Roads, fences, and why fawns and calves struggle
29:48 - Wildlife corridors and winter range protection
32:10 - Mule deer numbers and historical decline
34:32 - Predators are not the only cause of decline
37:48 - Reporting roadkill with iNaturalist
38:47 - Wildlife crossings and future conservation priorities
41:41 - Funding challenges and the need for new conservation models
43:48 - A hunter’s perspective on nuance and stewardship
49:01 - Wolves, boundaries, and the reality of dispersal
51:33 - Jamie’s path into hunting and traditional archery
55:11 - Learning archery after years in wildlife work
60:40 - Why traditional bowhunting forces closeness and patience
62:08 - Building an arrow setup and tuning for traditional archery
65:18 - Spot-and-stalk, tracking, and the challenge of archery hunting
70:53 - The first grouse Jamie harvested with a recurve
73:34 - Redefining success in traditional bowhunting
76:28 - Adrenaline, shot control, and knowing when to move
82:11 - Why the full hunt matters more than just the harvest
86:29 - A first wolf encounter while hunting
87:57 - Calling elk, hunting with a friend, and a near opportunity
91:43 - How traditional bowhunting improves her biology work
97:22 - Trusting intuition, slowing down, and listening in the field
98:45 - Jamie’s social presence and artwork
100:05 - Final call for public involvement in wildlife management
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Joel van der Loon sits down with Ryan Levinson for a wide-ranging conversation about diagnosis, risk, purpose, masculinity, and what it means to keep moving when your body changes. Ryan shares the arc from his mid twenties diagnosis with FSH muscular dystrophy to the decade he spent sailing in French Polynesia, and how those experiences reshaped his sense of self. This episode matters because it goes beyond a success story and gets into the harder question of how to stay oriented when the old sources of identity no longer fit.
Timestamps
00:00 - Brotherly reunion and the energy of deep trust
03:24 - Surfing, rebellion, and the identity Ryan built before diagnosis
06:14 - The college suicide call and the friend who broke through the moment
09:44 - Why it was not about depression, but about anticipation and future fear
11:45 - Feeling trapped by a future with no obvious vocation
13:05 - Surfing as meditation and a spiritual connection to something larger
15:10 - The diagnosis and the first move toward a new path
16:24 - Pressure from family versus a dream of ecotourism and ocean work
17:23 - A doctor’s blunt advice to choose something practical
20:18 - How the diagnosis changed public perception and opened doors
21:17 - Leveraging disability, media, and adaptive sports opportunities
23:54 - Why Ryan and Nicole bought a sailboat and crossed to French Polynesia
25:52 - Surrender, trust, and leaving the dock without knowing the outcome
28:29 - What long passage sailing changes in a person
31:44 - Simplicity, clarity of purpose, and why risk feels meaningful
35:53 - Ryan’s current conflict around purpose as physical ability declines
38:25 - Losing the ability to protect in the way he once could
40:34 - Why Nicole’s capability changes the burden conversation
44:19 - The emotional and psychological work of surrendering masculinity
48:24 - Joel’s view of spiritual awakening as remembering the soul
52:08 - Why the compass shifted before leaving the boat life
55:36 - The physical toll of years at sea and disease progression
60:23 - Metrics, recovery, and adapting daily to what the body can do
63:01 - Constant reassessment before surfing, diving, or physically demanding work
65:32 - What Ryan is most proud of now: perseverance
68:02 - Joel’s challenge that logic can become a trap
69:35 - Why the relationship with Nicole is central to Ryan’s fear
71:14 - Joel’s teaching on knowing God through knowing self and others
75:21 - Untangling the story of self and doing shadow work
77:20 - Hadza, wilderness time, and the progression of spiritual learning
81:10 - Joel’s divorce, grief, and the liberation of brutal self-honesty
84:19 - Ryan on people inventing new stories instead of accepting change
85:46 - Life as floating with the current instead of fighting it
87:21 - Accepting that decline, loss, and change are guaranteed
90:09 - Final gratitude and where to find Ryan online
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Joel gives an update about the podcast and also talks about the upcoming courses through his school.
The holistic fair chase hunting course and the Hadza full immersion adventure are available for booking. spots are limited. please check out www.bushsurvivaltraining.com
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Darren Silver, MA, is a rite of passage guide, Nature-Connected Coach, ceremonialist, and innovative educator. He has nearly two decades of experience working with ritual, wilderness living skills, and guiding transformational experiences residentially and internationally. A gifted storyteller and apprentice to the old myths, Darren weaves the power of the natural world, vision, and community in devotion to the remembrance of regenerative culture.
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Cole and Joel talk talk about a variety of subjects including hunting with a traditional bow and things to consider with your setup.
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Justin Egliskis is a unique individual with a desire to help people align their energy and feel fulfillment in their lives. His perspective is refreshing and certainly promotes contemplation around how to live life as a better man.
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Jessica Carew Kraft, an urban wife and mom of two, was firmly rooted in the modern world, complete with a high-powered career in tech and the sneaking suspicion that her lifestyle was preventing her and her family from truly thriving. Determined to find a better way, Jessica quit her job and set out to learn about "rewilding" from people who reject the comforts and convenience of civilization by using ancient tools and skills to survive. Along the way, she learned how to turn sticks into fire, stones into axes, and bones into tools for harvesting wild food―and found an entire community walking the path back from our technology-focused, anxiety-ridden way of life to a simpler, more human experience.
Get a copy of Jessica’s book “Why we need to be Wild”.
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Ryder Redfield is a close friend and ranch manager in Central Oregon. Ryder talks about his connection to the land, wildlife and his struggles with finding purpose and understanding in life. Joel and Ryder talk about their friendship and the spiritual growth they have experienced together through community and psychedelics.
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