In this groundbreaking episode of the James Loud Podcast, James welcomes two iconic figures from the plant advocacy world: Steve DeAngelo, a revered pioneer in the movement for plant reform, and Richard Delisi, who endured 32 years in prison for a non-violent drug charge. Steve DeAngelo, co-founder of the Last Prisoner Project, played a pivotal role in Richard's release, marking a significant moment in the ongoing battle for justice within the plant community. Together, they delve into their exciting experiences in major cities like New York and DC in the 1960s and 70s, sharing stories from a time when the landscape of plant legislation was vastly different. This episode not only highlights the deep emotional journeys both guests have undergone but also serves as a powerful reminder of the continuing fight for reform and the human cost of outdated policies.