Inclusion Bites Podcast

Joanne Lockwood is joined by Julie Kratz to explore what “allyship in action” looks like when DEI faces backlash and misunderstanding. Julie shares how her own corporate experience led her to focus on belonging, psychological safety, and the day-to-day behaviours that shape whether people feel included at work.

Together they unpack how performative allyship can replace real change, and why simplifying language matters when acronyms and jargon create fear, division, or defensiveness. The conversation argues for focusing on outcomes—fairness, trust, respect, and access—rather than getting stuck defending labels, and it highlights the value of calling people in (not calling them out) to create more productive dialogue.

They also discuss the wider social and political context influencing workplace inclusion, including polarisation and power dynamics, and touch on how organisational leaders and brands can respond by staying aligned to mission and values. Listeners leave with a clearer, more practical framing for inclusion work: keep your radar up, notice unfairness, and take action that builds belonging over time.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by social scientist and facilitator Lorne Epstein for a wide-ranging conversation about unconscious bias, how our brains fill in gaps, and what it takes to build environments where people feel safe, accepted, and able to contribute.

They explore the relationship between belonging and psychological safety, including how fear of judgement can shut people down and drive defensiveness. Lorne shares practical approaches to interrupting reactive patterns, such as breathing techniques to move from threat response to clearer thinking, and simple team practices to improve high-stakes decisions.

Alongside workplace examples from training and leadership contexts, both share personal stories about failure, fear, and confidence, including lessons about learning, resilience, and redefining what “success” means. The episode closes with a focus on authenticity, continuous learning, and the everyday choices that help reduce bias and strengthen connection.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with Dominique Dehaene, National Director of Special Olympics Belgium, about how sport can be a practical gateway to fuller inclusion for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities (IDD). Dominique explains what is meant by IDD and why Special Olympics focuses on talent, opportunity, and competition rather than pity or lowered expectations.

They explore how unified sport can build confidence, communication, and social connection, and how those gains can carry into everyday life, including education and employment. The conversation also challenges common assumptions about capability, addresses the fear many people feel about “getting inclusion wrong,” and argues for learning through good intent, accountability, and trying again.

Dominique brings personal perspective as a father of a son with autism, sharing what openness, support networks, and purpose can look like in practice. They also discuss health inequities for people with IDD and how targeted screening and better professional training can remove barriers. The episode closes with a call to create environments where people with IDD are treated as full participants in communities, workplaces, and society.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by brand marketing consultant Samta Datta for a wide-ranging conversation about why genuine connection matters more than polished branding. Samta shares how her work centres on understanding people’s insights, pain points and passions, and argues that real resonance starts with connecting to yourself, not constructing a marketable persona.

Together they unpack authenticity in both personal and professional life, including the risks of “catfishing” yourself through an online identity that doesn’t match who you are in real life. They discuss how maintaining a performative persona can be exhausting and unsustainable, contributing to stress and burnout, and why owning your values and character is a more durable path.

The episode also reflects on how COVID changed the way people connect, the impact of isolation on psychological safety and mental health, and why touch and in-person energy can feel uniquely restorative. The conversation broadens into social expectations and work-life pressures, including the challenges women face balancing career and family across cultures, and how younger generations are redefining success through technology, flexibility and new working models.

The central theme returns to alignment: whether you are an individual or an organisation, connection and integrity need to come first, with commercial outcomes following as a byproduct of trust and genuine relationships.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with transformational coach and chartered accountant Sandeep Amar Gupta about what it takes to build businesses that grow without losing their humanity. Together they explore the relationship between the external world of actions and results, and the inner world of values, purpose, and consciousness.

Sandeep distinguishes spirituality from religion and frames it as a universal journey from self-centredness towards selflessness. He connects this to organisational life, describing businesses as having three interlinked layers: people as the “soul”, culture as the “mind”, and operational activity as the “body”. The conversation challenges short-term, profit-only leadership and argues for systems thinking, ethical strategy, and long-term value creation.

They also discuss practical leadership behaviours that shape culture: how fear-based management can trigger threat responses and shut down learning, why supportive conversations improve performance, and how co-creating team vision and values can increase commitment and results. The episode closes with reflections on learning through setbacks, adapting to change, and aligning individual strengths with a rapidly evolving world of work.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with former army officer and leadership coach Taran Kumar about his journey from hospitality into the military, and later into the corporate world. Taran describes what drew him into service, the selection process, and the leadership lessons he learned by leading troops in extreme environments.

He recounts a high-altitude conflict in which he was seriously wounded, the realities of survival and decision-making under pressure, and the recovery process that followed. The experience reshaped his outlook, deepening his empathy and reinforcing the value of trust, morale, and shared purpose.

Bringing those lessons into the boardroom, Taran contrasts military cohesion with corporate environments where distrust, competition, and poor cross-department communication can undermine performance. He argues for more inclusive structures that value so-called non-revenue roles, involve people across levels in planning, and create space to challenge plans before execution. Through practical analogies—from football, chess, and security during the pandemic—he offers a clear case for building teams where everyone is recognised as essential to long-term success.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Alyssa Dver, founder of the ERG Leadership Alliance and the American Confidence Institute, for a wide-ranging conversation about what belonging really looks like and how organisations can sustain it.

They explore how fear and defensive behaviours can shape culture, why psychological safety matters for performance, and how managers can listen to understand rather than simply respond. Along the way, Joanne reflects on approaching 60 and the shift from accumulating relationships and obligations to focusing on what is sufficient and meaningful.

A central focus is the practical reality of employee resource groups: the need for clear fundamentals like purpose, who the group serves, decision-making structures, and guardrails. Alyssa explains why executive sponsorship is pivotal and often under-trained, and why ERGs need to translate belonging into outcomes and measures that organisational leaders will take seriously. The episode closes with an emphasis on community, resilience, and taking action together through challenging social and political times.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with Steph VanHaverbeke, co-founder of the House of Coaching, about what happens when you stop chasing a fixed result and allow space for creativity and renewal. Steph shares a pivotal moment after a business bankruptcy where choosing a day of music

They explore how perfectionism and constant performance can become self-imposed constraints, and how reframing ‘baggage’ into useful ‘luggage’ can support growth. Steph describes coaching approaches that help people uncover resources inside what they usually experience as obstacles, including a mindscaping exercise that reframes perfection as both beautiful and inherently imperfect.

The conversation also touches on Steph’s gender transition and how it shaped her empathy and authenticity, alongside reflections on gender as a social construct and the impact of progressive gender legislation in Belgium. They end by discussing the disruptive rise of AI, the need for critical thinking, and how technology can free people to focus more on human connection and relationship-building.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with mental health practitioner Alex Williams about what it really takes to recover after life’s setbacks, and why “getting back up” is less about quick fixes and more about foundations.

Alex shares his own story of profound childhood trauma and the long tail it had on his self-worth, relationships and sense of agency. Despite building a career in mental health, he describes reaching a breaking point in adulthood, including suicidal ideation, and how re-framing his ability to choose his response became a turning point.

Together they explore how modern life and social media can amplify comparison, shame and unrealistic expectations, and why authenticity matters when seeking support. They emphasise the role of community, human connection and realistic, repeatable actions—small daily commitments that rebuild trust in yourself over time.

The episode closes with practical guidance: separate yourself from the problem you’re experiencing, take responsibility for what you can control, seek supportive people and environments, and be patient with the non-linear nature of recovery.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by John Sands, an ERG trainer, to unpack how organisations can turn difficult, polarising moments into constructive conversations and tangible workplace improvements. They explore what Employee Resource Groups are for, how they create safer spaces and belonging, and what it takes for ERGs to thrive through genuine organisational support, sponsorship, and resources.

The conversation ranges beyond the workplace to examine how media sensationalism and social platforms can amplify echo chambers, distort statistics, and harden positions. Joanne and John discuss why people cling to certainty, how “headline thinking” fuels division, and what it looks like to disagree without dehumanising one another—especially when freedom of speech meets the risk of harm.

John also shares the personal impact of severe COVID-19 illness, including his time in a coma and the lasting mental scars that shaped his commitment to disability advocacy and support. Across the episode, the focus stays on empathy, education, and allyship as practical tools for building more inclusive cultures—at work and in wider society.

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