Inclusion Bites Podcast

Ruth Fogg joins Joanne Lockwood to unpack what stress is, how it differs from everyday pressure, and why it can build up unnoticed until it starts affecting health, behaviour, and relationships.

They explore how stress can be triggered by stored memories, beliefs and values, and why stigma and workplace cultures that normalise overwork can prevent people from seeking help. Ruth shares practical, self-help approaches she uses with clients and organisations, including education on how the mind works, stress audits, and techniques such as hypnosis, tapping (EFT), and EMDR.

The conversation also touches on lived experience, including Ruth’s hearing loss and how hidden disabilities can add strain in everyday environments, as well as the wider challenges of mental health support and prevention. The episode closes with ways listeners can access further resources and relaxation support.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Gillian Jones-Williams to explore why women continue to be underrepresented in boardrooms, and what needs to change for progress to accelerate.

They discuss the structural and cultural barriers that keep leadership teams male-dominated, including bias in perceptions of “gravitas”, expectations around age and readiness, and the experience of being the first (or only) woman in a board environment. Gillian shares what she’s learned from years of coaching senior women, including the extra work many women feel they must do to be heard, taken seriously, and assessed fairly.

The conversation also covers career planning and progression, including how organisations can better prepare women for the jump from senior management to board roles, and why “debiased” recruitment alone may not shift outcomes without deliberate action to widen and rebalance candidate pipelines. Alongside this, they touch on workplace realities that can materially affect women’s confidence and performance, such as menopause, stigma around reproductive health, and the unequal pressures many women faced during COVID-era working.

Gillian also shares her lockdown project: a diary-style book capturing the day-by-day experience of COVID-19 and the effort to keep a business going, written with the aim of raising money in support of NHS staff and their families.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Jackie Handy to explore how organisations can make inclusion feel more practical and achievable by focusing on everyday behaviours and language, rather than relying on unconscious bias training as a standalone solution.

They discuss why bias training can sometimes trigger defensiveness or shame, and why inclusion efforts work best when they are part of a broader, ongoing approach that builds understanding, reflection, and action. The conversation looks at privilege, systemic barriers, and the importance of creating safe conditions for people to have honest discussions that may feel challenging.

Jackie and Joanne also examine what proactive allyship looks like in practice, including the courage to challenge harmful comments and the vulnerability to admit what we do not yet know. They reflect on how storytelling can educate while also risking tokenism if organisations treat difference as performance rather than embedding change into culture.

The episode closes with a vision of inclusion and belonging becoming so embedded in organisations that it no longer needs to be labelled as a separate initiative, supported by small, consistent behavioural steps taken by everyone.

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Madeline Black joins Joanne Lockwood to talk about what it took to find the courage to speak publicly about being gang raped at 13, and how shame and fear kept her silent for decades. She describes how victim-blaming culture and gaps in societal and justice-system support can reinforce that silence, and why shifting responsibility back to perpetrators matters.

Madeline reflects on the long-term impact of trauma, including disordered eating, suicidal feelings, anxiety and PTSD, and the gradual process of healing through support and therapy. She shares why stepping into the shame and telling the truth of what happened helped her reconnect with her sense of self-worth and authenticity.

The conversation also explores why speaking out can be contagious: how public storytelling can create connection, inspire others to disclose their own experiences, and build empathy. They touch on online harassment, the increased risks of domestic abuse during COVID-19 lockdowns, and the need for workplaces and communities to create conditions where people can be heard safely.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Ling Salter, a former mental health nurse and founder of the social enterprise Compassionate Cuppa, to explore why love, respect, connection and acceptance matter for wellbeing.

They discuss how being truly listened to can create connection and belonging, and how disconnection and unmet needs can contribute to distress. The conversation examines the stigma around “mental health,” why reaching out can feel difficult, and how compassionate, non-judgemental listening can be a first step toward support.

They also reflect on the pressures of an always-on online world and the added uncertainty and disruption brought by COVID-19—from lockdown and shifting routines to anxiety about returning to workplaces and public spaces. Ling shares how her approach focuses on meeting people where they are, exploring what’s possible, and helping individuals reconnect with purpose and acceptance. The episode closes with Ling’s reflections on Reiki as a personal practice that supported her recovery from physical pain, and how it may complement her broader wellbeing work over time.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Hend Halim, an HR professional who grew up in Egypt and has lived in Holland and the UK, to explore the tension between cultural norms and shared humanity.

Hend reflects on how early cultural messaging shaped her understanding of LGBTQ+ people, and how education and direct relationships challenged stereotypes. She describes learning to separate morality and character from sexuality or gender identity, and why exposure and dialogue are essential for changing deeply held assumptions.

The conversation also looks at how law, privilege, and workplace culture affect people’s safety and inclusion, including examples of how LGBTQ+ people can face very different outcomes depending on social status. Hend discusses being an ally in practice, the realities of discrimination in supposedly tolerant environments, and simple ideas organisations can use to help employees connect across difference.

They also touch on wider societal context, including Black Lives Matter and colonial history, and how current events such as COVID-19 may shift working practices and expectations in ways that could improve flexibility and inclusion.

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Recorded during the early months of COVID-19 and amid the global resurgence of Black Lives Matter following the murder of George Floyd, Joanne Lockwood speaks with Gamal Turawa about why we need more open, honest dialogue about race.

Gamal shares reflections as a Black, openly gay, now-retired police officer and diversity and dignity facilitator, including how emotions like fear, anger and frustration can block meaningful conversation unless they are acknowledged and navigated. Together they explore privilege, what it means to be white, and the importance of moving from difference to empathy and then to dignity.

The conversation also touches on identity as multi-layered and not fixed, the harm of “colour-blind” language, and the responsibility to shift from being “not racist” to being actively anti-racist. Gamal recounts aspects of his lived experience, including being fostered, cultural dislocation, and reaching a point of suicidality before learning to define himself on his own terms.

They reflect on wider social context including Grenfell, Windrush, media stereotypes, statues and historical legacy, and why symbolic actions must be matched by systemic change. The episode closes with a focus on turning anger into constructive action and sustaining momentum for long-term progress.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Joseph Galliano-Doig, co-founder and CEO of Queer Britain, to explore how the word “queer” shifted from a weaponised slur to a reclaimed, inclusive umbrella term. They discuss generational differences in how the term lands, the importance of self-identification, and how language, intent, and context shape who holds power in a conversation.

Joe shares his career across LGBTQ+ media and advocacy, and the motivation behind establishing the UK’s first national, bricks-and-mortar LGBTQ+ museum. Together they reflect on why a permanent space matters for visibility, cultural memory, and creating somewhere both queer and non-queer people can learn, connect, and feel proud of these histories.

The conversation also touches on life during lockdown, including the ways isolation can be especially difficult for people who are not out or who are living in hostile environments. They discuss workplace inclusion as a potential refuge, the pressures of constantly managing language and disclosure, and the wider social climate—including trans rights debates in the media and renewed global attention on racism and allyship.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with statistician and trained therapist Nic Marks about what the science of happiness can tell us, and how positive emotions and wellbeing can be understood and measured.

They discuss how happiness can mean different things (contentment versus joy), how population statistics can hide individual stories, and how biases and fast/slow thinking shape our judgments of other people. The conversation also reflects on the mental strain created by sustained negative news, COVID-era uncertainty, and how resilience shows up as people absorb setbacks and partially recover over time.

Nic shares insights from Friday Pulse data on shifts in employee morale during lockdown, why experiences differ across groups, and what leaders can do in practice when teams are remote—especially checking in with people, creating space for human connection, and recognising that different life circumstances affect wellbeing at work.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by transformational life coach Michael Cerasi to explore his AAA philosophy: acceptance and authenticity as foundations for achievement. They unpack what active listening really means, why compassion matters, and how coaching differs from counselling and mentoring.

The conversation looks at common barriers such as limiting beliefs, imposter feelings, and the challenge of making time to invest in yourself, especially during the uncertainty of the COVID period. Joanne shares practical reflections on benchmarking progress and learning to accept positive feedback.

Michael also talks about giving back to the LGBTQ+ community through projects including Bi Pride and an online magazine, and shares parts of his own journey of coming out as bisexual and choosing to live authentically despite stigma and misconceptions.

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