Aden Debord, 22, Jim Newman, 72, expore the way people develop into stronger, more capable, and more open human beings. Jim tells stories from his past that suggest avoiding defensiveness may have helped him develop attributes of character that serve him well today.

Aden Debord, 20, and Jim Newman, 72, discuss a momentous decision Aden has made, specifically, getting a haircut. It's a pretty serious change as it's his first visit to the barber in four years, and has resulted in a remarkable transformation in his appearance. He describes the utter strangeness of the change.

20-year-old Aden Debord schools Jim Newman, 72, on the anime TV series Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, and more particularly, the significance of a certain ultra-muscular action figure on Jim's shelf in the studio. Aden's a big fan of the Jojo saga. Jim learns about Millennial culture.

Aden Debord, 20, and Jim Newman, 72, record for the first time in a professional recording studio. They endure the distractions of this strange environment while exploring possible conncections between relaxation, vulnerability, and deeper connection to other people.

Aden Debord, 20, and Jim Newman, 72, record for the first time in a professional recording studio. They endure the distractions of this strange environment while exploring possible conncections between relaxation, vulnerability, and deeper connection to other people.

At 20, Aden Debord can expect a considerable number of years on this planet. He sees it as a mixed blessing considering the state the world is in. Jim Newman, 72, is sympathetic but thinks the Millennials generation and the generations to come might just be able to handle it -- unless, of course, nature takes a hand.

Aden Debord, 20, and Jim Newman, 72, shift studio space (at least temporarily)from Portland State University's Millar Library to Jim's condo. Aden praises Jim's paintings,framed versions of which cover his walls. Creativity and its pitfalls are the topic. Jim shares his experimentation with marijuana as a boost to his fiction writing.

In this heart-to-heart conversation on how people learn to cope with life, Aden and Jim identify multiple styles of mentorship.

Aden recounts a sick day video game adventure. Jim remarks that if video games mimic life he hasn't learned to play that well yet.

Aden recounts a sick day video game adventure. Jim remarks that if video games mimic life he hasn't learned to play that well yet.