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Why would anyone have so much pets? The answers may vary, but listening to all the reasons that Ina shared with us tonight is in fact interesting. From the way those animals would love you unconditionally, looking at you lovingly, asking for no returns all the way to the way this surreal times might ease your anxiety by having one or maybe more pets. I like the way the conversation goes as it does sound like it is easy and so much fun in caring for animals to those who enjoys them. There is no tension of having that extra baggage and there is no meaningful hassle until that day where it is time to let them go. Heartbreaking but that's the way any living creatures go. One lives, another passed. A Labrador, three cats, and a couple of turtles are the joy of Ina's and her family time and time again. I used to wonder why, but maybe just maybe, this discussion tonight is another window to open my no-to-pets mind. :) @inibukandiskusi

Even when he had to smuggle a new aquarium into the storage, he would not back down. That's a rule number one for a pet lover or any other hobbyist really since it is easier to ask for forgiveness rather than asking your spouse permission! :) Owning 15 aquarium with vast varieties ecosystem in each of them, Götz really got his hands on. This particular fascination started years ago when he was still 8-9 years old in Germany. And only when he moved to Indonesia, he had the will to restart this long lost passion to an actual hobby. Through this discussion, not only I learned that Indonesia's aquascaping is well-known and well-respected globally, but also that if your interest is particularly within fresh water fishes, then Indonesia is the place to do this aquarium type of setting. Götz's background in forestry, sustainability, and land use related matters may come very handy with this love of his. What do you know in 30 minutes, I learned that fish excrement may be useful for the plants around them with the help of certain bacteria. Also I gained an understanding that when fish in your tanks are starting to breed, therein lies a remarkable sensation of pure delight kicks their way in. You have the sense that your fish really do appreciate and comfortable to that ecosystem that you spent hours a week to caring for. Tuned in and hopefully you enjoy the conversation! @inibukandiskusi

When I think about Koi, I would only think about this person, that is Faisal of course. Even in his high school years, he has already had the inkling to fishes. Koi that is. From his admiration to restaurants' ponds to actually created his own pond, one can only assume that he really has that zing. As a true hobbyist he understood the level of commitment (both pain and joy) that it takes to caring for more than fourty Kois. During the discussion tonight, I got a little glimpse on caring for fishes, the ponds, the genetics, and that it is apparently normal to have your Kois died in staggering numbers at one time even under you tight scrutiny. Listening to how Faisal describing his wonderment of the Koi Communities across Indonesia, one can only assume that Koi has taken a good amount of attention from its hobbyist, hours at a time, and it is actually not a surprised that during this surreal time, caring for a fish provides a hearty sanctuary in that vast amount of land you have at your house. I love the fact that caring for Koi meaning that you are one hundred percent caring for its water. That little thing in life. @inibukandiskusi 

It does take one hell of courage admitting to our obsession with social media. From that phone book that you kept tight in your pocket in the early 90s, to the matchmaking apps in early 2000s to the ninth wonder of the world: Instagram. We tried to cover it all and letting our own experiences be the guide. Friendster, Twitter, Facebook, match.com, Zoosk, MIRC, ICQ, YM, Kaskus, Tinder, Linkedin, and finally Instagram. Those platforms mentioned above might tickle your senses. Reminiscing to what it was once. And hopefully none of you have ever signed up to a dating site while still married to your current spouse. ‘Cause believe you us, these happened and apparently quite a lot. Ouch. So many memories, so many laughter, so many wrong turns, but yet here we all are. Spending countless hours in this precious Instagram. Allowing people to believe your own narratives while at the same time judging that person’s post. Ain’t life funny this way! Co-host: Nina Setyawati and Parvita Siregar

Ps. This is our last episode spending time with these two smart ladies. While they will be missed, you could always listen to their voice over and over again. Grateful to have spent the month of July with you two!

This is getting way too personal! :) Having said that, you might learn one or million about where the three of us came from: our family history. The family who are related by blood, by marriage or that special people (and of course that canine family) who we consider our own even when we do not share DNA albeit we do share similar beliefs. Nina with her Javanese touch, Parvita with her mix of Northern Sumatra and Western Sumatra flair, and I with my pure Minang blood in me. Wondering how the three stories merged into one heavy and long discussion? Listen up and compare those to your own experience. There is a huge chance that our stories match yours, and maybe just maybe you will end up having the most laugh of your life. Although there is more chance of that not happening. Haha. Hopefully you enjoy this discussion tonight as much as we do. Co-host: Nina Setyawati & Parvita Siregar. @inibukandiskusi

First, let me tell you that especially for this episode, we did not mean to offend both human and the unknown creatures. When we discuss whatever it is that we discuss, please know that we are celebrating life and all the complexities within. Which for tonight, it includes all the stories we have heard, seen, and to some extent, experienced. It may not be true, it may be 100% true, or maybe just maybe it has some truth to the stories. Whatever it is, we were pretty much discussing this mystical theme in a positive note and hope you will have as much as fun as we are in unraveling all those stories around and within us. Fear not as this is probably one of the most joyful discussions that we have ever had. Do savour this episode to the best of your knowledge and do remember, unlike popular belief: Kliwon is actually a good time to cleanse. Have fun bathing tomorrow! Co-host: Nina Setyawati & Parvita Siregar. @inibukandiskusi

From the time B18 in Ratu Plaza was the ultimate place to purchase that MAC lipstick to the time when that Body Shop lip gloss was suddenly a must-have item for us. This discussion will absolutely cover all the things that you need to know about looking and feeling good and also the things you probably do not have any interest in such as Vaginal Rejuvenation and Haji Jeje treatment :). Although, we are more interested to why we do make-up, how far we are willing to enhance our appearance (plastic surgery, botox, filler, etc.), would we go for tattoo or adding some more pierce perhaps, among others. Great reminiscing and a reminder that when we do something different to our appearance solely for our benefit, not for other people, then life gets much easier and that self confidence unexpectedly: soars! Co-host: Nina Setyawati & Parvita Siregar.  

Can a woman be a tech savvy kind of dudette? Well, there are a lot of techie women out there much as there are a lot of non-techie kind of dude. So let's see this from a neutral angle. :) In tonight episode we will be discussing technology in ways that only us can do. Ngalor-ngidul-ngetan-ngulon style. Our understanding of technology is just as much as yours probably are. Nevertheless, given the combined years of experience, we have passed some of the most exciting technology inventions of our time. Gramophone, Walkman, Mini Compo, Pager, Game Watch, Cassettes, all the way to Spotify Playlists! We have done them all. We get to discuss all the applications that are downloaded to our hand phones but at times fail to remember that it is even there! Along with should we fear the vast changing nature of technology. To what extent should we start to stop and worry? Well, we also do not have the answer to that, but we get to enjoy the tech conversation over a cup of coffee. Co-host: Nina Setyawati & Parvita Siregar

With the immense informations coming and going through social media along with the #MeToo movements, we can no longer stereotyping that women in workspace are all X, and then women who chose to be a solid home maker is definitely act like a Y. In this episode of Ini Bukan Diskusi, we are trying to get out of those small-mindedness. Yet we did not stop there, there is also discussions about men in the workspace and men who are also a home maker. We were initially not ready to break the common misconceptions but yet here we all are. Hopefully we gain some new colors to our rainbows as nothing is definite and life is always changing. The question is, are you ready? Co-host: Nina Setyawati and Parvita Siregar. 

Ever wonder why we are what we are? This heated and surprisingly entertaining discussion obviously chewing over being women in the workspace. Some might say it is common, some might say how dare you choose career over family, and the list goes on and on. Whatever have been said about women and career, we were brave enough to discuss our choices. How did Parvita start her career? Why did Nina choose not to become a doctor, since both of her parents are doctors? Why did Imelda choose to be a house worker? :) Some of us were once dreaming of becoming a flight attendant, the other some wished to be a policewoman yet here we are. Life is fluid and so does our dreams. Let's listen up and discuss! What a great time to be women. Co-host: Nina Setyawati & Parvita Siregar.