‘Sarah’ is a recipient parent who unfortunately not only had to see a nightmare counselor from the clinic, but also watched one of her children get very sick and told by the hospital that the only way they could confirm his illness is by doing a blood test on both genetic parents.

Freya is not only donor conceived, but she is also recipient parent and a known egg donor. She has such a unique perspective and brings so much nuance to the conversation. She is also born and raised in The Uk so we learn a little bit more about how that donor conception market functions

FULL DISCLOSURE I filmed the intro a few weeks ago, I'm not about to go perform in Cleveland. I already did, it was wonderful. I apologize for the blooper, it's been a wild few weeks and I'm catching up.

This episode is with a good friend and another DCP advocate Eric. Eric is a late discovery DCP who has been diving into the foundation of donor conception which is eugenics. Racism still heavily influences our current donor conception market, and until we acknowledge that to the fullest extent, we can't fix it. Eric runs a support group for BIPOC DCP to help others navigate those emotions and lived experiences.