On episode 200 of the 204 Rise Podcast, we sit down with Michael Benarroch, President of the University of Manitoba, for a rare and candid conversation about leadership at scale.

We ask the question, "what does it actually take to lead one of Canada’s largest public institutions?". Breaking down how a $1.1+ billion organization functions, how decisions are made when students, faculty, government, and the broader community are all impacted, and why rankings alone don’t define a great university. From navigating COVID, strikes, and campus safety, to fostering trust and encouraging honest feedback, this episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at leadership when the stakes are real and public.

We also explore Michael’s personal journey, from once believing law school was his path, to discovering economics, to becoming president without ever chasing the title.

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