Inside with Brett Hawke

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March 11, 2020#016 Marius Kusch
Marius Kusch has been flying under the radar, silently improving his game. Today, he sits down and talks about the strategies and ways of thinking that have had a positive impact on his life and performance.
Listen in as he shares his thoughts on the New York Breakers and the ISL, college swimming and working with coach David Marsh of Team Elite. He gives insights into his new approach to rest and recovery and what he has planned for his future in swimming. Find out why he says, at the end of the day, it’s important he remembers exactly who he’s swimming for.
Every athlete is beatable... everyone can have a bad day. And everyone has the potential to step up and do something that they were thinking is impossible.” -Marius Kusch [36:04]

Key Takeaways:
What Marius Kusch has changed to improve as an athlete.

How other sports and concepts outside of swimming have shaped him.

His advice for other athletes training for the Olympics.
Episode Timeline:
[00:01] Intro

[00:28] Making the move to San Diego to train with Team Elite

[00:53] The choice to swim for a Division 2 school

[02:14] The events he swam coming out of Germany

[03:13] His experience with Division 2

[05:21] Changes and becoming a 100 butterfly contender

[08:24] The small changes add up

[10:26] Improving the quality of sleep and recovery

[12:50] Key changes to his nutrition

[16:23] Being open-minded and making the most of his resources

[17:12] What makes his coach, David Marsh, so exceptional?

[19:59] Marius' thoughts on drilling

[21:32] The most important to do while drilling

[23:43] His best time yet and what it'll take to get on the podium

[26:08] What he's been doing to become more efficient

[27:48] His best races to date

[28:30] How he's planning to take relaxed mindset to the finals

[29:55] Thoughts on visualization

[31:00] What he's taken away from other sports

[32:46] His experience with the ISL and the New York Breakers

[33:58] Looking ahead to the next Olympics

[34:41] Staying in America

[35:59] Does he think Caeleb Dressel is beatable?

[36:34] His recommendations for others training for the Olympics

[37:41] Book recommendations and thoughts on talent

[38:52] His parent's thoughts and support with him living so far away

[40:06] Outro
Connect:
Find | Brett Hawke
At fitterandfaster.com
On Instagram @hawkebr
Find | Marius Kusch
At mariuskusch.de
On Instagram: @mariuskusch
On Facebook: @marius.kusch.3
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41 min
March 09, 2020#015 Dave Denniston
When a sledding accident left Dave Denniston paralyzed from the waist down, the world would have understood if he’d let anger and frustration consume him. Instead, he chose to rise above it.
As top U.S swimmer, NCAA National Champion and world record holder, Dave carved out a path of success during his career as a swimmer. Today, he sits down with Brett and talks about the journey he has taken both in and out of the pool. Hear about their time spent swimming as teammates at Auburn University and the lessons they learned that would shape their careers. Listen in as Dave shares the key to his positive outlook on life and all the ways he’s redefined it’s meaning with his experience as a Paraolympian, coach and public speaker.
“I had as perfect of a body as I could physically make but realize now that my attitude had always been paralyzed.” -Dave Denniston [29:34]

Key Takeaways:
How Dave Denniston became a Paralympian.

His history as a swimmer.

Brett and Dave’s time spent swimming for Auburn University.
Episode Timeline:
[00:03] Intro

[00:22] Dave Dennison on branching out from his Wyoming roots

[01:21] Why he got into swimming

[02:15] His first Olympic memories

[03:28] Falling in love with the breaststroke

[04:08] Choosing Auburn University in ‘97

[07:39] Taking shortcuts and learning from mistakes

[10:47] How the Auburn Team rebounded

[13:29] Brett on gaining confidence from his team

[16:12] Dave on competing against Ed Moses and NCAA Championships

[22:48] Starting a new journey in 2005 after becoming paralyzed

[26:22] How his accident was a blessing in disguise

[30:14] Feeling restricted and focusing on finding a way

[31:32] Dave's speaking work

[32:23] Becoming a Paralympian

[33:59] Getting into coaching

[34:57] Overcoming restrictions

[35:52] What Dave Denniston is looking forward to in the future

[37:18] Thoughts on the Paralympics and Jessica Long

[40:16] Outro
Key Quotes:
“The other thing about growing up in Wyoming is, this is a blue-collar state and you work hard for whatever you get in life...I might not have the biggest hands and feet or the most talent, but I can work as hard or harder than anybody else.” -Dave Denniston [18:56]

“When you really look at what this sport does for people. Especially a kid from a town of a thousand people in nowhere Wyoming, is it just gives you so many opportunities to grow as a person and to learn about who you are.” -Dave Denniston [21:46]
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42 min
March 06, 2020#014 Chloe Sutton Mackey
When Chloe Sutton Mackey's career took off at the age of 14, she made a lot of tough decisions that set her on a path to realizing her Olympic dreams. Today, as a 2-time Olympian, Chloe sits down to talk about her experiences competing in both pool and open water events, taking initiative as a young swimmer and gives insights into her mindset and work ethic.
Listen in to hear her explain the drive and passion she developed for swimming as she shares some of her childhood experiences. Find out what it’s like competing for Team USA and how she was able to retire from swimming with no regrets.
“If you do what's always been done, you'll get what everyone else has always got.” -Chloe Sutton [05:08]
Key Takeaways:
Chloe Sutton’s experiences as a young swimmer.

Ways parents might help their young swimmers take ownership of their careers.

Thoughts on accepting loss and disappointment.

What Chloe has accomplished outside of the pool.
Episode Timeline:
[00:19] Intro

[01:11] Chloe Suttton on qualifying in both open water and pool

[02:10] Training for both events

[04:02] Her unconventional childhood

[06:55] How her parents guided her independence

[09:59] Deciding that college swimming wasn't for her

[12:35] How she was so driven at a young age

[15:05] Dealing with failure and disappointment

[17:20] What it's like competing for Team USA

[18:56] Her take on Katie Ledecky and distance freestyle

[22:11] Deciding to retire from swimming

[24:05] Becoming VP of Fitter and Faster swimming

[28:40] What's next for Chloe Sutton

[30:16] Outro
Key Quotes:
“In order to swim at my best, I had to want to swim fast as much as I wanted to breathe. It needed to be a need for me... It had to be my entire heart and soul.” -Chloe Sutton [22:18]

“I think everybody deals with disappointment, failure in their own kind of way... ultimately with my personality type- at least in a moment- If I was ever truly satisfied with any race I've ever swam.” -Chloe Sutton [15:18]
Connect:
Find | Brett Hawke
At fitterandfaster.com
On Instagram @hawkebr
Find | Chloe Sutton
At chloesutton.com
On Instagram: @csutswim
On Twitter: @csutswim
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31 min
March 04, 2020#013 Haley Anderson
Haley Anderson will be making her third Olympic appearance at Tokyo 2020 after qualifying for the first time, at the age of 20. Competing in open water, Haley offers a unique approach to competition that seems to have given her the edge and mental stamina needed for her events.
Listen in as Haley shares her experience growing up in a family of professional swimmers. She shares what makes open water swimming a particularly rewarding challenge as she talks about potential obstacles (hot water temps & bacteria) headed her way in Tokyo. Find out how she made a name for herself, navigated life as a USC swimmer and her thoughts on the ISL’s chosen events.
Key Takeaways:
How Haley Anderson is preparing for her third Olympic cycle.

Insights into open water swimming.

Haley’s thoughts on the ISL and her future in swimming.
Episode Timeline:
[00:00] Intro

[00:29] Haley Anderson on approaching her 3rd Olympic cycle

[02:04] Qualifying for the 2012 Olympics at 20 years old

[03:25] Her experience in the London Olympics

[04:57] Growing up in a swimming family

[08:55] Haley’s mentality going into events

[10:48] Training for 2 hour swims

[12:47] Practicing in pool and open water

[14:11] Gym, lifting and mobility

[17:31] Haley's approach to nutrition

[19:43] Overtraining and fatigue

[20:55] How breaks and recovery have changed for her over time

[22:20] Haley's strategy for open water events

[25:30] Rules, etiquette and drafting in open water

[28:24] Navigating variables and gaining confidence in open water

[32:15] Sponsorships (ARENA)

[33:22] Choosing to go to USC

[34:36] First American to be chosen for the 2020 Olympics

[38:01] Hot water, e-coli and other course drawbacks

[40:17] Thoughts on the ISL and swimming after Tokyo

[42:34] Outro
Connect:
Find | Brett Hawke
At fitterandfaster.com
On Instagram @hawkebr
Find | Haley Anderson
At teamusa.org
On Instagram: @swimhaley
On Twitter: @swimhaley
On Facebook: @haleyandersonUSA
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44 min
March 02, 2020#012 Frank Busch
For nearly a decade, Frank Busch has been USA swimming’s National Team Director. He was the head of the organization towards the end of Michel Phelps’ Olympic career and led the charge that brought home 64 medals for the United States.
Today, he’s giving back in new ways — spending the days of his retirement with family and working with non-profit organizations like Habitat for Humanity.
Listen in as he looks back on his 50 year career. He talks about his time spent as a collegiate swim coach at the University of Arizona and offers advice for young coaches. Hear what he’s learned from some of the best athletes in the world and the impression they’ve made on him as a coach and as a person.
“His determination...I consider him the greatest athlete I've ever seen.”
-Frank Busch on Michael Phelps [43:01]
Key Takeaways:
What Frank Busch took away from his 50 year career.

How he divided his time among his athletes.

Advice for synergy between coaches and athletes.

How he fostered passion and pride in athletes throughout his career.
Episode Timeline:
[00:03] Intro

[00:16] Frank Busch’s life post USA swimming retirement

[02:18] Is it hard being away from the pool?

[03:32] Advice young coaches need to hear

[05:38] Managing and fostering creativity in assistant coaches

[08:46] Keeping everyone on the same page

[14:01] Making contact with all the athletes

[16:47] Finding the right formula to win a championship

[18:50] Differences in coaching men and women teams

[20:27] Standout athletes and thoughts on Lacey Nymeyer

[24:33] Instilling passion and school pride while at the University of Arizona

[29:07] Speaking to all levels of experience on Olympic teams

[32:19] Choosing to lead at USA Swimming

[35:51] Advocating for the best athletes in the world

[39:34] What every swimmer can learn from Micheal Ph

[42:01] How Micheal performed under pressure

[46:37] Dealing with jealousy and competition

[51:47] Processing disappointment and failure with athletes

[55:51] Frank Busch's thoughts on the ISL

[59:23] Will he write a book?

[1:01:38] Outro
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1 hr 3 min
February 28, 2020#011 James Gibson
Olympic swimmer turned coach, James Gibson packed up and flew to Turkey to serve as the head coach of a Russian club in 2016; betting it all on a vision of a world class competitive team and the future of the ISL.
Today, that club is better known as Energy Standard and they’ve recently claimed the first ever International Swimming League championship title.
Listen in as James talks about his career in coaching and his decision to coach for the ISL. He shares some of the challenges he’s faced along the way and what has made it all worth it. Learn how he balances his time and efforts in coaching for the Olympics and the ISL as he shares his experiences working with world class athletes like Sarah Sjostrom and Flo Manaudou.
“I still pinch myself a little bit that ISL has happened and gone already, season one… it happened so quickly and it just felt right.” -James Gibson [36:18]
Key Takeaways:
Why James Gibson decided to work with the ISL.

How his top athletes work towards their personal goals.

His plans for the future with the ISL.
Episode Timeline:
[00:02] Intro

[00:32] James Gibson on pushing the boundaries on sprinting

[02:21] What is a professional swimmer?

[03:20] Energy Standard winning the ISL championships

[04:26] How James Gibson fell into coaching

[06:41] His subsequent coaching timeline

[08:46] His work with Flo Manaudou

[13:04] Advice Brett once gave Cesar Cielo

[14:28] James Gibson’s

[15:27] Stroke changes to Flo's routine inspired by Freddie Bousquet

[18:28] What James Gibson is saying to his athletes

[21:15] Olympic favorites and what makes them special

[21:38] Sarah Sjostrom's drive & resilience

[25:33] Chad Le Clos's passion & transition

[27:34] Brett on working with Cesar Cielo and Fred Bousquet

[28:52] James Gibson’s work with Ben Proud and Flo Manaudou

[31:22] Giving equal effort to all athletes

[33:02] Life and training in Turkey

[34:05] Is Energy Standard Paris moving?

[35:00] Choosing to work for the ISL

[38:15] Focusing on the Olympics and the ISL at the same time

[40:59] Outro
Connect:
Find | Brett Hawke
At fitterandfaster.com
On Instagram @hawkebr
Find | James Gibson
At eliteteamenergystandard.org
On Instagram: @_jamesgibson_
On Twitter: @jamesgibsongbr
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42 min
February 26, 2020#010 Caroline Burckle
When Olympic medalist Caroline Burckle was awarded the NCAA Female Swimmer of the Year award in 2008, she was in the peak of her career as an athlete. Today, she shares how life after swimming gave her another chance to excel and discover herself.
In this episode Inside with Brett Hawke, Caroline dives into the obstacles she overcame while pursuing her Olympic dreams. She highlights the importance of personal well being and why mental health is fundamental to the success of any athlete. Listen in to hear how she's helping young athletes manage their own well being and all the ways she's been able to move decisively towards living her best life.
"At the end of the day, it's your decision. No one's going to do it for you and you have to get super curious with yourself and rely on people for support but knowing that you're responsible for changing your state in the best way that works for you." -Caroline Burckle [12:40]
Key Takeaways:
How Caroline Burckle has approached life after swimming.

What she has learned from her career as an Olympic medalist.

The work she’s doing today to help young athletes.
Episode Timeline:
[00:03] What Caroline Burckle identifies with now

[01:05] When she recognized her passion for art

[03:30] How it is manifesting in her life

[06:10] Self-discovery after retiring

[10:07] How becoming curious helped her recovery

[13:22] Looking back at her swimming career

[16:40] Why she chose the University of Florida

[18:36] 2008 NCAA Female Swimmer of the Year

[20:30] Breaking Janet Evans' 18 year 500 free record

[22:33] When doubt creeps in

[26:14] Feeling heard builds confidence

[27:06] Her experience swimming in Olympic finals

[28:18] Her brother and fellow Olympian Clark Burckle

[32:00] RISE-athletes mentoring program

[36:08] What they work on with athletes
Key Quotes:
“I finally said stop the running. What is going on? You don't need to judge yourself. You don't need to analyze yourself. There's nothing wrong with you.” -Caroline Burckle [12:03]
“I think the true champion, humans that are always striving for better is a very positive quality to have. It's being happy with yourself. Being proud of yourself with the benchmarks you've achieved and knowing that's not the end all be all and that you can apply that your life now. - Caroline Burckle [15:55]
Connect:
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On Instagram @hawkebr
Find | Caroline Burckle
At carolineburckle.com
At RISE-athletes.com
On Instagram: @caroburckle
On Twitter: @caroburckle
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43 min
February 24, 2020#009 Brent Hayden
When Brent Hayden left the water for retirement 7 years ago, he was a talented swimmer who had found his career plagued by a series of physical and mental setbacks. Today— in what is possibly the best shape of his life— he’s preparing to qualify for the Olympics and ready to pick up where he left off.
In this episode, catch Brent share the story of his departure and the inspiration for his return. What has been the key to finding success after a 7 year hiatus. He provides training insights, advice for young swimmers and shares who he’s looking forward to facing in the water this year.
“The challenges that I was just going to have to overcome was just going to make whatever happens more valuable.”
-Brent Hayden [13:53]
Key Takeaways:
Brent Hayden’s thoughts on returning to swimming.

What caused him to leave the sport.

How his swimming has changed.

His advice for young swimmers..
Episode Timeline:
[00:02] Intro

[00:14] Brent Hayden is returning to training at 36

[00:52] What retirement was like for Brent Hayden

[02:20] Falling back in love with swimming while in Lebanon

[06:03] Experiencing back spasms and in 2012

[11:45] Earning a bronze medal despite personal struggles

[14:04] Swimming faster in the final v.s semi-final

[15:28] Predicting times while training & gauging the field

[17:46] Brent Hayden’s career best time

[18:48] How he's planning to get faster in the next 6 months

[20:44] Bent's weekly training schedule

[21:44] Recovery at age 36

[23:04] Understanding nutrition post-retirement

[24:45] What he's eating on a daily basis

[29:00] What he would tell his younger self

[30:24] What kind of competitor is Brent Hayden

[32:20] Who he enjoyed racing against in the past
Connect:
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At Brenthayden.com
On Instagram: @thebrenthayden
On Twitter: @thebrenthayden
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43 min
February 21, 2020 #008 Béryl Gastaldello
Beryl Gastaldello’s career is taking off. At the age of 25, after taking time off to focus on her physical and mental health and on the tail end of graduating from Texas A&M, she's become a force to be reckoned with. In this episode of Inside with Brett Hawke, Beryl shares some of what she's doing to prepare for French trials, heading into the Olympics. Listen in to hear the work she's put in to develop her confidence as a and trust herself as a swimmer. Find out why she decided to train with the men’s team at Texas A&M and her plans for the future with the ISL’s L.A Current. "Everything I went through made me way tougher than I was, which is dangerous for other people, I guess." - Beryl Gastaldello [04:22] Key Takeaways: Beryl Gastaldello’s unique approach to training. What’s behind her more recent success. How she is coming into her own as a third-generation Olympian. What she is doing to gain confidence in her swimming. Episode Timeline: [00:14] Intro [00:46] Events she’s focusing on qualifying for [01:04] Qualifying in French trials [02:52] Training for morning swims [03:47] What helped her burst onto the scene at age 25 [04:45] Finding her identity as a third-generation Olympian [05:57] Her strength training [06:52] Why she decided to come to the U.S [07:40] The reason she chose Texas A&M [08:20] What she was pleasantly surprised by [09:17] Her experience and future with the ISL and the L.A Current [11:59] Making changes for her mental health [13:12] The difference in training with the men and women at A&M [15:49] Mental breakthroughs she's had this season [17:29] Plans and goals before and after trials [19:28] Seeing herself as an Olympic medalist [20:17] Where does doubt come from? [22:53] How did she qualify for the 100 free in the last Olympics [23:58] Planning and preparing for the day of a race [25:42] Brett's experience working with Beryl [29:23] What she does to work on her underwaters [31:01] What she's thinking about in practice and what she does well [33:61] Her thoughts on Jason Calanog as a coach [37:01] How she feels about the recognition she’s receiving [38:54] Sponsorships [39:23] Outro Key Quotes: “Everything I went through made me way tougher than I was which is dangerous for other people I guess.” - Beryl Gastaldello [04:22] “I want to see this as a step because I'm looking forward to the Olympics and I don't want to just make it. I wanna go there and do great things.” - Beryl Gastaldello [19:04] “It's a little weird because if I get a little confidence then I'm very dangerous and I realize that I just need to build on that. That's what the ISL really helped me with. I realized if I was just a little more confident, everything was different.” - Beryl Gastaldello [19:42] “If you're happy, you swim fast." - Beryl Gastaldello [24:46] Connect: Find | Brett Hawke At fitterandfaster.com On Instagram @hawkebr Find | Beryl Gastaldello On Instagram: @gastaswim On Twitter: @beryl_gasta Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Google Spotify YouTube Special Thanks: Inside with Brett Hawke is presented by Fitter & Faster. Host a swim camp. More than 1,000 swim clinic sessions in 46 States plus Canada & the Bahamas in 2019. Inside with Brett Hawke is produced and promoted by Swimnerd. Connect your phone to your pace clock with the Swimnerd Pace Clock. Digital, affordable, and Bluetooth programmable from your smartphone.
41 min
February 19, 2020 #007 Rick DeMont
If you know swimming, you know Rick DeMont. For about the last quarter of a century he coached at the University of Arizona. He was an elite swimmer himself in the 1970's breaking countless world records at the start of his career and qualifying for the Olympics at the age of 16. On the biggest world stage, in front of millions, his gold medal was wrongfully taken away.
In this episode of Inside with Brett Hawke, Rick shares stories from his upbringing, how he developed a passion for coaching and all the ways he has been able to give back to the sport. We talk about his philosophies as a coach, the impact he’s had, and his plans for the future.
“Hard times are a catalyst for growth.”
- Rick DeMont [27:00]
Key Takeaways:
What Rick DeMont is up to today & his plans for the future.
What shaped him and led him to coaching
The effect his 1972 Olympic disqualification had on him.
His innovations in sprinting.
Episode Timeline:
[00:20] What Rick DeMont has been up to lately
[01:50] His experience being a highly active kid
[02:59] How being active manifested negatively
[05:44] Vulnerability and competition as coaches
[07:13] His swimming beginnings and leaning into his talent
[11:44] Why did he become a distance swimmer
[14:63] Being disqualified from the 1972 Olympic Games
[21:51] The start of his coaching career
[23:40] Explanations from the Olympic committee
[25:16] Resolutions, apologies and finding peace
[25:61] Lessons he's been able to pass down to his athletes
[27:19] What he was trying to achieve with sprinters at UA
[31:09] Differences between coaching men and women
[33:18] Innovations he is most proud of
[39:32] Training your aerobic system with drills
[40:31] Rick DeMont's coaching philosophy
[42:51] Training multiple elements
[47:36] Thoughts on Frank Busch and David Marsh
[47:18] How are we going to get faster?
[50:41] Will Rick DeMont stay in the sport?
[52:03] What Brett is doing in the sport
[53:41] Outro
Key Quotes:
“At that point, I really lost a lot of my heart. I'd been changed, I'd become angry and I thought, maybe by being the first to break four minutes, It might take some of that stuff away. But I was still known as the 'Gold Medal Loser’ and it was just hard on me. It was just really hard." - Rick DeMont [10:44]
“Growth comes in hard times... hard times are a catalyst for growth.” - Rick DeMont [27:00]
“I was more into the dance of it all rather than the numbers. I need to see the dance, just the beauty of the task” - Rick DeMont [38:59]
Connect:
Find | Brett Hawke
At fitterandfaster.com
On Instagram @hawkebr
Find | Rick DeMont
On Twitter: @demont_rick
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Inside with Brett Hawke is presented by Fitter & Faster. Host a swim camp. More than 1,000 swim clinic sessions in 46 States plus Canada & the Bahamas in 2019.
Inside with Brett Hawke is produced and promoted by Swimnerd. Connect your phone to your pace clock with the Swimnerd Pace Clock. Digital, affordable, and Bluetooth programmable from your smartphone.
58 min