Intangible Podcast

Clemson great and former NFL defensive end Austin Bryant joins Chris Spencer for a powerful, raw, and inspiring conversation about the intangibles that shaped his life on and off the field. From growing up in a small South Georgia town to winning two national championships at Clemson and navigating the highs and lows of the NFL, Austin opens up in a way young athletes and parents rarely get to hear.

He reflects on the village that raised him, the toughness he learned competing with older cousins, and the moment a position switch from quarterback to defensive end changed his entire future. Austin shares what made Clemson’s culture special, what it was like playing on one of the greatest defensive lines in college football history, and how he pushed through an entire season — including the Cotton Bowl — with a torn pec. His honesty about mental resilience, self-belief, faith, leadership, and the reality of NFL life is something every athlete can learn from.

Austin also talks about making the decision to step away from the game, how he’s redefining greatness in this new chapter, and why giving back to the next generation means more to him than ever. This is a conversation about character, humility, sacrifice, and the unseen habits that separate good from great.

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In this episode of The Intangible Podcast, former UCLA and Florida State tight end Jordan Wilson opens up about the qualities that shaped his journey — faith, resilience, leadership, and an obsession with greatness. From growing up in Nashville with a strong faith foundation, to ACL setbacks, to transferring across the country, to fighting his way back from an Achilles tear, Jordan’s story is a masterclass on what separates good athletes from great ones.

Young athletes, parents, and coaches — this episode is loaded with lessons you can apply today. Jordan breaks down how to handle adversity, how to stay grounded in identity, how to lead by example, and how to develop a growth mindset that lasts well beyond sports.

If you're chasing your potential, this one will hit home.

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In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with Jake McKenzie, VP of Membership & Community Engagement for PAC (Pro Athlete Community). Jake’s journey from foster care and instability to becoming one of the most trusted leaders helping pro athletes transition into life beyond sports is powerful and deeply human.

Jake opens up about his early upbringing, the identity battles that came with leaving football, and how vulnerability became his greatest strength. He explains the heart behind PAC and the “new locker room” they’re building—one designed to give current and former pros a space to grow, connect, and rediscover their purpose.

This conversation is full of insight for athletes navigating transition, parents raising resilient kids, and coaches trying to develop true leaders. Jake breaks down why values matter, how to train mental toughness through hard things, and what it looks like to carry your intangibles into the next chapter of life.

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Super Bowl Champion and 13-year NFL veteran Rodney McLeod joins host Chris Spencer on The Intangible Podcast to talk about the intangibles that fueled his career—from going undrafted to hoisting the Lombardi Trophy with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Rodney opens up about his upbringing in D.C., lessons in leadership and composure, the faith and family foundation that grounded him, and his transition into life after football—now as an ESPN SEC analyst and co-founder of the Change Our Future Foundation with his wife, Erika.

This conversation dives deep into the mindset behind longevity, the importance of education in the NIL era, and how athletes can build purpose beyond the game. Whether you’re an athlete, parent, or coach, this one’s a masterclass on character, patience, and personal growth.

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Former Alabama wide receiver Mac Hereford joins The Intangible Podcast to unpack what it’s really like to grind your way into Nick Saban’s program — and how that experience shaped his mindset beyond football.

From waking up at 4:30 AM to catch passes in front of D1 scouts, to earning his spot on one of the greatest college football teams ever, Mac reveals the discipline, faith, and character that carried him through it all.

This episode dives deep into mental toughness, leadership, and the transferable skills athletes can carry into life after sports. Whether you’re an athlete, a parent, or a coach — this one’s packed with lessons on work ethic, confidence, and keeping the main thing the main thing.

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What happens when the game ends — but your purpose is just beginning?
 In this powerful episode of The Intangible Podcast, former Tennessee defensive back Derrick Furlow Jr. joins host Chris Spencer to talk about the real work that begins after the final whistle.

Derrick opens up about growing up in southwest Atlanta, finding football as his escape, and how a devastating ACL injury forced him to face a bigger question: Who am I outside the game?
Now an author, speaker, and entrepreneur, Derrick has dedicated his life to helping athletes navigate transition, mental health, and leadership with intention and purpose.

From walking on at Tennessee to earning two degrees in four years, Derrick’s journey is a masterclass in resilience, mindset, and service over self.

If you’re an athlete, coach, or parent wondering what separates the good from the great — this conversation is for you.

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Katy Sullivan is proof that limits are meant to be redefined.
Born without the lower halves of her legs, Katy grew up in Alabama in a family that never saw her disability as something to fix — only something to face head-on. That foundation shaped her into one of the most inspiring performers and athletes in the world.

In this powerful episode, Katy joins Chris Spencer to talk about the resilience that carried her from the track to the stage — from representing Team USA at the Paralympic Games to starring on Broadway in Cost of Living. She opens up about facing rejection, rebuilding after injury, and how vulnerability became her greatest strength.

Katy’s story is a reminder that greatness doesn’t come from talent alone — it comes from belief, curiosity, and a relentless will to grow. Whether you’re an athlete, a parent, or a coach, her journey will make you rethink what’s possible.

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From walk-on to Pro Bowler — Marc Mariani’s story is pure grit. In this episode of The Intangible Podcast hosted by former NFL center Chris Spencer, Marc opens up about growing up in small-town Montana, walking on at the University of Montana, and earning his way to the NFL as a seventh-round pick of the Tennessee Titans.

Marc shares how his underdog mentality, love for the process, and relentless competitive fire took him from being 5’5”, 95 pounds in high school to becoming a Pro Bowl return specialist. He dives into how lessons from his Montana roots shaped his work ethic, how he bounced back from a career-altering injury, and why he still approaches life, business, and fatherhood with that same “win the day” mindset.

This episode is for every young athlete, parent, and coach who believes effort, attitude, and resilience matter more than stats.

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Former NFL guard Andy Levitre joins Chris Spencer on The Intangible Podcast for a real, down-to-earth conversation about hard work, discipline, and what it takes to build a career that lasts.

From weighing 340 pounds in high school to becoming a second-round NFL draft pick, Andy’s story is all about the grind — transforming his body, outworking the odds, and learning from teammates like Matt Ryan and Ryan Fitzpatrick along the way.

He opens up about his journey from Oregon State to the Super Bowl, the challenges of injuries and transitions, and what he’s learned about identity and purpose beyond football.

If you’re a young athlete, parent, or coach, this one hits home — because Andy’s success wasn’t about talent alone. It was built on effort, consistency, and the intangibles that last long after the final whistle.

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In this episode of The Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with Kate Pettersen — a two-sport athlete turned broadcaster who’s covered the Edmonton Oilers, Nashville Predators, and now the Vancouver Canucks. From growing up in Toronto with a pro football dad and a mom who modeled resilience, to her breakout moment at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics, Kate’s story is about passion, preparation, and finding her voice in the world of sports media.

Kate opens up about the grind behind the broadcast booth, breaking through the “one-word answer” culture in hockey interviews, and what it takes to earn trust from athletes like Connor McDavid and Sidney Crosby. She also shares personal lessons from family loss, her volunteer work in Nashville, and the intangible qualities — passion, drive, foundation, and work ethic — that fuel her career.

Whether you’re a young athlete, coach, hockey fan, or aspiring reporter, this conversation gives you a rare behind-the-scenes look at the preparation, pressure, and perseverance that define life at rinkside.

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