June 15, 2022

Intelligent Dependency Resolution For Optimal Compatibility And Security With Project Thoth

31 minutes

Summary

Building any software project is going to require relying on dependencies that you and your team didn’t write or maintain, and many of those will have dependencies of their own. This has led to a wide variety of potential and actual issues ranging from developer ergonomics to application security. In order to provide a higher degree of confidence in the optimal combinations of direct and transitive dependencies a team at Red Hat started Project Thoth. In this episode Fridolín Pokorný explains how the Thoth resolver uses multiple signals to find the best combination of dependency versions to ensure compatibility and avoid known security issues.

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Your host as usual is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Fridolín Pokorný about Project Thoth, a resolver service that computes the optimal combination of versions for your dependencies

Interview

Introductions

How did you get introduced to Python?

Can you describe what Project Thoth is and the story behind it?

What are some examples of the types of problems that can be introduced by mismanaged dependency versions?

The Python ecosystem has seen a number of dependency management tools introduced recently. What are the capabilities that Thoth offers that make it stand out?

How does it compare to e.g. pip, Poetry, pip-tools, etc.?

How do those other tools approach resolution of dependencies?

Can you describe how Thoth is implemented?

How have the scope and design of the project evolved since it was started?

What are the sources of information that it relies on for generating the possible solution space?

What are the algorithms that it relies on for finding an optimal combination of packages?

Can you describe how Thoth fits into the workflow of a developer while selecting a set of dependencies and keeping them up to date over the life of a project?

What are the opportunities for expanding Thoth’s application to other language ecosystems?

What are the interfaces available for extending or integrating with Thoth?

What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Thoth used?

What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Thoth?

When is Thoth the wrong choice?

What do you have planned for the future of Thoth?

Keep In Touch

Website

Picks

Tobias

Brass Against

Fridolin

micropipenv

Links

Redhat

Emerging Technologies Group

Project Thoth

Thamos CLI

PyPA Advisory Database

Project2Vec

Thoth Prescriptions

Thoth: Egyptian God

The intro and outro music is from Requiem for a Fish The Freak Fandango Orchestra / CC BY-SA

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