Intergenerational Fairness Day Podcast

This episode takes you straight to Europe’s unique effort to look beyond short-term politics: the European Commission’s Citizens’ Panel on Intergenerational Fairness. From September to November 2025, 150 randomly selected citizens from all 27 EU Member States gathered on three weekends to discuss long-term policy recommendations – and on November 16th, Intergenerational Fairness Day, they handed over their final 24 recommendations to European Commissioner for Intergenerational Fairness, Glenn Micallef.

Lena was in Brussels for the final session, and in this episode, she walks you through what she witnessed: the debates, the challenges, the learning moments, and the recognition that citizens were shaping a shared long-term vision rather than simply observing it. What exactly is a Citizens’ Panel? How does it work? And what does it mean that its outcome will help shape the EU’s first-ever Strategy on Intergenerational Fairness, due in 2026?
To answer these questions, Lena speaks with three people who helped shape the process from the inside:

• Béla Kuslits, senior ecology officer at the Jesuit European Social Centre, and the coordinator of the Future Generations Initiative
• Petranka Malcheva, policy lead for Health, Long-term thinking and Prevention at the Office of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
• Deša Srsen, Cabinet member of Commissioner Micallef and the person responsible for drafting the upcoming Strategy

Lena discusses the panel’s purpose with experts, shares their biggest surprises, and what it will take for Europe to truly embed long-term responsibility into everyday policymaking. If you want to understand how exactly Europe is trying to turn intergenerational fairness into political practice, this is the episode you don’t want to miss.

Find out more information about the Foundation for the Rights of Future Generations:
https://intergenerationaljustice.org/about-us/who-we-are/

You can explore the European Citizens’ Panel on Intergenerational Fairness on the Commission’s website: https://citizens.ec.europa.eu/citizens-panel-intergenerational-fairness_en and read our full blogpost about the final session here: https://intergenerationaljustice.org/2025/11/25/european-citizens-panel-intergenerational-fairness/.

If you want to dive deeper into the Intergenerational Fairness Day itself, you’ll find more information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergenerational_Fairness_Day or https://intergenerationaljustice.org/projects/intergenerational-fairness-day/
And if you’re new to this podcast, you can listen to all episodes here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2273376

Follow us on Instagram @intergenerationalfairnessday and use the #intergenerationalfairnessday or send us an email to [email protected]. 

Thank you for listening! 
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CREDITS
Creator/Host/Executive Producer: Lena Winzer
Producer/Editor: Lena Winzer, Svenja Klöckner
Music: Benjamin Cornelius, Background Sounds

Get ready for December 16th because our new episode is about THE intergenerational fairness challenge: climate change! COP29 was held in Baku, Azerbaijan, just a few weeks ago and one thing is clear: the stakes have never been higher. With global temperatures nearing the 1.5°C threshold, the decisions made—or avoided—at these conferences will shape the future for generations to come. In this episode, we’ll take a closer look at what happened at COP29. What progress was made? Where did the negotiations fall short? And how do these outcomes impact intergenerational fairness? And you're not just hearing it from anywhere: Lena's guest Arthur is an Ambassador for the FRFG and experienced COP29 firsthand. Together they unpack all the successes and shortcomings at this year's Conference of the Parties. From funding gaps and geopolitical dynamics to accountability issues and backdoor deals – we have it all.

Find out more information about the Foundation for the Rights of Future Generations:
https://intergenerationaljustice.org/about-us/who-we-are/
and about FRFG's Ambassador and Climate Expert Arthur: https://intergenerationaljustice.org/about-us/ambassadors/

For more information about this year's COP in Baku:

• https://unfccc.int/cop29#:~:text=With%20a%20central%20focus%20on,300%20billion%20annually%20by%202035.
• https://www.carbonbrief.org/cop29-key-outcomes-agreed-at-the-un-climate-talks-in-baku/
• https://unfccc.int/cop29/auvs
• BBC News and Global Witness report: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmzvdn9e18o

For more information about the Intergenerational Fairness Day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergenerational_Fairness_Day or https://intergenerationaljustice.org/projects/intergenerational-fairness-day/
..and for this podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2273376

Follow us on Instagram @intergenerationalfairnessday and use the #intergenerationalfairnessday or send us an email to [email protected].

Thank you for listening! If you want to learn more about the other organisations championing the Intergenerational Fairness Day, then check out the links below!

Intergenerational Foundation, United Kingdom
https://www.if.org.uk

Milliongenerations, Netherlands
https://www.milliongenerations.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Partnership for Future Generations in Africa
https://ourfutureagenda.org/2023/02/partnership-for-future-generations-in-africa

Think Forward, Australia
https://www.thinkforward.org.au

Generation Squeeze, Canada
https://www.gensqueeze.ca

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CREDITS
Creator/Host/Executive Producer: Lena Winzer
Producer/Editor: Lena Winzer, Svenja Klöckner
Music: Benjamin Cornelius, Background Sounds

We’re back with part 2 of our Existential Risks Edition! Welcome to the fifth episode of the Intergenerational Fairness Day Podcast coming September 19th! Our discussion today has got everything: a hostile takeover, technological advancements, power and peril and a few heroes like my guest today trying to warn us about it all. This is "Episode 5: The Future of Intelligence: AI and the Survival of Humanity." In today's episode, your host Lena Winzer and her guest founder and director of the Existential Risk Observatory, Otto Barten, are going to break it all down—what AGI actually is, why it could pose such a significant risk, and what's being done to address it. So, buckle up as we separate fact from fiction and explore the existential risks of AI, a topic that could very well determine the fate of humanity.

For more information about the Existential Risk Observatory and their projects  - check out the links below!

Website: https://www.existentialriskobservatory.org/

Policy proposals: https://existentialriskobservatory.org/papers_and_reports/Policy%20Proposals.pdf

Articles in TIME: https://time.com/author/otto-barten/

Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@existentialriskobservatory

X: https://x.com/xrobservatory

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/71570894/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/existentialriskobservatory/

For more information on the Existential Risk of AI: 

Kurzgesagt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8k8IQ1_X0

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_risk_from_artificial_general_intelligence

Yoshua Bengio's blog: https://yoshuabengio.org/2024/07/09/reasoning-through-arguments-against-taking-ai-safety-seriously/

Superintelligence (in German): https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/nick-bostrom-superintelligenz-t-9783518586846

The Precipice: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Toby-Ord/dp/0316484911

PauseAI: https://pauseai.info/

For more information about the double issue of the Intergenerational Justice Review on Existential Risks and other projects of the FRFG check out the links below:
Intergenerational Justice Review: https://igjr.org/ojs/index.php/igjr/issue/view/118
All other FRFG projects: https://www.intergenerationaljustice.org

For more information about the Intergenerational Fairness Day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergenerational_Fairness_Day
..and for this podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2273376

It's time again! Welcome to the fourth episode of the Intergenerational Fairness Day Podcast coming June 16th! Join us as we discuss the likelihood of extinction through nuclear war, the fallout, its effects including a nuclear winter, as well as efforts and strategies for prevention and disarmament in Episode 4: Nuclear Weapons: The Ultimate Existential Risk! Listen to your host Lena Winzer discuss a whole new aspect of the intergenerational (un)fairness spectrum with her guest Susi Snyder from the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons. She is the programme coordinator at ICAN and was also the president of ICAN's international steering group which pushed for the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons and in 2017 won the Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts. Together they determine whether nuclear war is the ultimate existential risk.

For more information on ICAN and their projects  - check out the links below!

ICAN
https://www.icanw.org/

ICAN Nuclear Spending Report
https://actionbutton.nationbuilder.com/share/SPK-QEBCSEU=

Follow ICAN on X and Instagram @nuclearban!

For more information about the double issue of the Intergenerational Justice Review on Existential Risks and other projects of the FRFG check out the links below:
Intergenerational Justice Review: https://igjr.org/ojs/index.php/igjr/issue/view/118
All other FRFG projects: https://www.intergenerationaljustice.org

For more information about the Intergenerational Fairness Day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergenerational_Fairness_Day
..and for this podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2273376

Follow us on Instagram @intergenerationalfairnessday and use the #intergenerationalfairnessday or send us an email to [email protected].

Thank you for listening! If you want to learn more about the other organisations championing the Intergenerational Fairness Day, then check out the links below!

Intergenerational Foundation, United Kingdom
https://www.if.org.uk

Milliongenerations, Netherlands
https://www.milliongenerations.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Partnership for Future Generations in Africa
https://ourfutureagenda.org/2023/02/partnership-for-future-generations-in-africa

The Berkeley Institute for Young Americans, United States of America
https://youngamericans.berkeley.edu

Think Forward, Australia
https://www.thinkforward.org.au

Generation Squeeze, Canada
https://www.gensqueeze.ca

Future Design, Japan
https://www.ri-futuredesign.com

Next Generation Fellows, United Nations Foundation
https://ourfutureagenda.org/nextgenerationfellows/

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CREDITS
Creator/Host/Executive Producer: Lena Winzer
Producer/Editor: Lena Winzer, Svenja Klöckner
Music: Benjamin Cornelius, Background Sounds
Art: Intergenerational Fairness Day

Welcome to the third episode of the Intergenerational Fairness Day Podcast coming March 16th! Join us as we discuss the physical, emotional, social and educational challenges Young Carers face in their daily lives in Episode 3: Unseen Heroes: Empowering Young Carers! Listen to your host Lena Winzer discuss a whole new aspect of intergenerational (un)fairness and long-term consequences with her guests MYTIME Young Carers CEO Krista Cartlidge, Benjamin Salzmann from the Young Carer Center Windschatten Berlin, Tristan Stecker from the German Steering Group for Young Care from the German Professional Association for Nursing Professions and FRFG's very own Head and Speaker of the Board Luise Roither.

For more information on the organisations from today's episode - check out the links below!

MYTIME Young Carers
https://www.mytimeyoungcarers.org/

Windschatten Berlin
https://ernst-freiberger-stiftung.de/young-carer/windschatten-berlin/

Steering Group "Young Care"
https://www.junge-pflege.de/

For more information about the double issue of the Intergenerational Justice Review on Young Carers and other projects of the FRFG check out the links below:
Intergenerational Justice Review: https://igjr.org/ojs/index.php/igjr
All other FRFG projects: https://www.intergenerationaljustice.org

For more information about the Intergenerational Fairness Day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergenerational_Fairness_Day
..and for this podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2273376

Follow us on Instagram @intergenerationalfairnessday and use the #intergenerationalfairnessday or send us an email to [email protected].

Thank you for listening! If you want to learn more about the other organisations championing the Intergenerational Fairness Day, then check out the links below!

Intergenerational Foundation, United Kingdom
https://www.if.org.uk

Milliongenerations, Netherlands
https://www.milliongenerations.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Partnership for Future Generations in Africa
https://ourfutureagenda.org/2023/02/partnership-for-future-generations-in-africa

The Berkeley Institute for Young Americans, United States of America
https://youngamericans.berkeley.edu

Think Forward, Australia
https://www.thinkforward.org.au

Generation Squeeze, Canada
https://www.gensqueeze.ca

Future Design, Japan
https://www.ri-futuredesign.com

Next Generation Fellows, United Nations Foundation
https://ourfutureagenda.org/nextgenerationfellows/

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CREDITS
Creator/Host/Executive Producer: Lena Winzer
Producer/Editor: Svenja Klöckner
Music: Benjamin Cornelius, Background Sounds
Art: Intergenerational Fairness Day

Welcome to the second episode of the Intergenerational Fairness Day Podcast coming January 16th! Join us as we delve deeper into the work of the FRFG in Episode 2: Longterm Thinking with the Foundation for the Rights of Future Generations. Listen to your host Lena Winzer as she interviews the scientific director Jörg Tremmel, the head of the board Carl-Georg Luft, board member Grace Clover, and ambassadors Milena Weber and Jonas Hohenforst on how the FRFG works to promote intergenerational justice in Germany and globally.

For more information about projects of the FRFG check out the links below:
Intergenerational Justice Prize: https://www.intergenerationaljustice.org/awards/current/
Past and future Walkshops: https://walk-for-the-future.info
Intergenerational Justice Review: https://igjr.org/ojs/index.php/igjr
All other FRFG projects: https://www.intergenerationaljustice.org

For more information about the Intergenerational Fairness Day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergenerational_Fairness_Day
..and for this podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2273376

Follow us on Instagram @intergenerationalfairnessday and use the #intergenerationalfairnessday or send us an email to [email protected].

Thank you for listening! If you want to learn more about the other organisations championing the Intergenerational Fairness Day, then check out the links below!

Intergenerational Foundation, United Kingdom
https://www.if.org.uk

Milliongenerations, Netherlands
https://www.milliongenerations.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Partnership for Future Generations in Africa
https://ourfutureagenda.org/2023/02/partnership-for-future-generations-in-africa

The Berkeley Institute for Young Americans, United States of America
https://youngamericans.berkeley.edu

Think Forward, Australia
https://www.thinkforward.org.au

Generation Squeeze, Canada
https://www.gensqueeze.ca

Future Design, Japan
https://www.ri-futuredesign.com

Next Generation Fellows, United Nations Foundation
https://ourfutureagenda.org/nextgenerationfellows/

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CREDITS
Creator/Host/Executive Producer: Lena Winzer
Producer/Editor: Svenja Klöckner
Music: Benjamin Cornelius, Background Sounds
Art: Intergenerational Fairness Day

Welcome to the first episode of the Intergenerational Fairness Day Podcast! Join us in our worldwide effort to call for intergenerational fairness on November 16th! Listen to your host Lena Winzer tell you all about the concept and introduce you to the organisations that have called this day into action. 

Follow us on instagram @intergenerationalfairnessday and use the #intergenerationalfairnessday or send us an email to [email protected]. 

Thank you for listening! If you want to learn more about the organisations championing the Intergenerational Fairness Day, then check out the links below!

Foundation for the Rights of Future Generations, Germany
https://www.intergenerationaljustice.org

Intergenerational Foundation, United Kingdom
https://www.if.org.uk

Milliongenerations, Netherlands
https://www.milliongenerations.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Partnership for Future Generations in Africa
https://ourfutureagenda.org/2023/02/partnership-for-future-generations-in-africa/#:~:text=Partnering%20for%20future%20generations%20requires,as%20trustees%20for%20future%20generations.

The Berkeley Institute for Young Americans, United States of America
https://youngamericans.berkeley.edu

Think Forward, Australia
https://www.thinkforward.org.au

Generation Squeeze, Canada
https://www.gensqueeze.ca

Future Design, Japan
https://www.ri-futuredesign.com

Next Generation Fellows, United Nations Foundation
https://ourfutureagenda.org/nextgenerationfellows/

CREDITS

 Creator/Host/Executive Producer: Lena Winzer

 Producer/Editor: Svenja Klöckner

 Music: Benjamin Cornelius, Background Sounds

 Art: Intergenerational Fairness Day

On November 16th, 2023, organisations from all over the world are proclaiming a worldwide day for action. Join host Lena Winzer as she introduces the concept of 'intergenerational fairness' and the organisations championing the Intergenerational Fairness Day! In too many areas of life, society is acting at the expense of young people and future generations. The day calls for a joint and intensive effort to secure the existence of humanity beyond the next decades so that the interests of younger and future generations are better protected both nationally and internationally. Every three months, Lena sits down with the organisations behind this Intergenerational Fairness Day to introduce and discuss challenges to an intergenerationally fair world.

The podcast launches on 16/11/2023 and you can follow us on instagram ⁠@intergenerationalfairnessday⁠!