Welcome back to the BJN podcast. In this episode, Sean Boyle (Editor, British Journal of Nursing) sits down with Kerry Wykes (Co-Founder and Director of Kinari and Nurse Leader) to discuss the experience of internationally educated nurses (IENs) working in the NHS.

The conversation explores the shortfalls that exist in the NHS's current approach to meeting the pastoral needs of IENs, how the service could be made more inclusive and welcoming, and the long-term impact that the failure to address these barriers could have on the wider health service.

Want to find out more on this subject? Check out the International Retention Toolkit here: https://www.nhsemployers.org/publications/international-retention-toolkit

Kinari are hosting an unmissable, free conference on 18 November 2025, London Waterloo. This is aimed at Workforce, Recruitment or Education Leads, or anyone responsible for the support and pastoral care of international nurses or other team members in your organisation. Join us there: Sharing Best Practices in Pastoral Care 2025 Tickets, Tue 18 Nov 2025 at 08:45 | Eventbrite

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