The International Object Wrestling Database ran into a problem: I stopped caring about keeping track of things. Rich and Sawyer unpack trackers, the five star rating system, cagematch.net, and RetroMania Wrestling.

Rich and Sawyer discuss NJPW World, Ring of Honour, music licensing, G1 booking backup plans, Eddie Kingston vs CM Punk, moral compasses, New Japan "face" style, the concept of "payback", team-based fandoms, and waiting for the audience to tell you who they think is the protagonist. 

Rich and Sawyer discuss AEW relying on if they ever need to make new wrestling fans, or if they have enough for what they need to succeed.  

Show notes: 

Rich and Sawyer discuss a simple topic: maybe we don't know who the protagonist is in wrestling until the story is over. Also, some 2021 TV recommendations. 

Rich Thomas joins me to discuss CM Punk, wrestling fan types, what we want out of wrestling these days, and Fair to Flair. 

Jason Mann joins me to discuss the WWE Network move to Peacock, and what that could mean to non-wrestling fans finally being able to just casually watch WCW twenty years after its demise.