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Ep 162 - Welcome to the Bi-Weekly offshoot episodes about Retirement, Financial Freedom, Planning for the Future, and other conversations for international educators.
Our first Retirement International Teacher Podcast (RITP) episode features cohosts Jake Loney & Greg Lemoine. JP is featured as our first guest of this series because she happens to be a successful retiree - since she officially retired at age 49.
We spend this first episode setting up the show and navigating through a lot of questions and learning a lot about retiring in Mexico.
*** the RITP episodes will fall biweekly between the regular episodes of the International Teacher Podcast.***
ITP - 161. Greg, JP, and Hannah welcome Dr. Elizabeth “Liz” Hidson from the University of Sunderland for a deep dive into teacher training, certification, and professional growth in international education. Liz explains the differences between the PGCE, iQTS, QTS, and other qualification pathways, including how educators already working overseas can earn recognized British teaching credentials without returning to the UK. She also explores Sunderland’s distance-learning MA in International Education, designed specifically around the realities of working international teachers, with coursework connecting directly to their schools, careers, and future job opportunities. The conversation expands into international school mission and vision, global and “glocal” curricula, the enormous variety of international schools, and the importance of keeping academic research connected to what is actually happening in classrooms around the world. Liz also shares how Sunderland is building an international community of educators through research, conferences, the SUNRAE Journal, and its podcast, giving teachers opportunities to share classroom research rather than letting valuable work disappear after graduation. It is an especially useful episode for current international teachers, educators considering working overseas, and anyone looking to strengthen their qualifications while continuing to teach abroad.
Helpful Links from this episode:
University of Sunderland – PGCE iQTS (Distance Learning)PGCE iQTS Program The University of Sunderland
University of Sunderland – MA International Education (Distance Learning)MA International Education The University of Sunderland
University of Sunderland – PGCE Education (French Medium)French-Medium PGCE The University of Sunderland
SunRAE – Sunderland Reflective Action in Education JournalSunRAE Journal Open Access Journals
Learning to Teach in the Secondary School, 10th Edition – co-edited by Elizabeth HidsonView the book at Routledge
Chapters
(00:31) Introduction to the International Teacher Podcast
(03:05) Dr. Elizabeth Hidson's Educational Journey
(06:06) Understanding International Initial Teacher Training
(08:50) Navigating Teacher Qualifications and Certifications
(11:49) The PGCE Program Explained
(14:38) Exploring Master's Programs in Education
(17:28) Distance Learning and Global Classrooms
(20:16) Types of International Schools and Their Missions
(23:09) The Importance of International Education
(26:09) The Role of Academics in International Education
(29:05) Conclusion and Future Perspectives
(34:23) Connecting Academic Qualifications with Practical Experience
(37:03) Tailored Education for International Teachers
(39:04) Exploring Sunderland's Unique Programs
(42:16) Building a Community of Educators
(48:39) Adapting Courses to Current Educational Trends
(55:47) Essential Items for International Travel
(58:10) Humorous Travel Anecdotes
Additional Gems Related to Our Show:
Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hw
Signup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01
Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/
Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpat
JPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/
Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdO
Children’s Book Series (on Amazon) By Hannah Loney:
Passport Adventures: The Pearl of Kuwait (Book 1)
Books (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:
Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Childrens Picture Book
International Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
"International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
ITP-160 explores international teaching through the lens of LeeAnna Pekel, elementary principal at Karachi American School, who joins from a suspiciously atmospheric “murder cabin” in Ohio while repatriating for the summer. LeeAnna shares her route from teaching English in Korea to earning certification online, moving into international schools, and eventually returning to Pakistan after being headhunted for leadership. The conversation digs into why less obvious locations like Karachi can become hidden gems, especially when strong school culture, serious safety systems, generous benefits, and welcoming local communities outweigh the scary headlines people love to collect like educational trading cards. Greg, Hannah, JP, and LeeAnna also talk about certification pathways, the value of networking, the realities of hardship posts, social bubbles, onboarding, small-school flexibility, and how teachers can stand out by stepping forward with solutions instead of just pointing at problems.
Chapters:
(00:31) Introduction and Setting the Scene
(02:41) LeeAnna's Journey into Education
(04:43) Teaching in Pakistan: Experiences and Insights
(07:36) Cultural Perspectives and Misconceptions
(10:47) Networking and Career Development in Education
(13:45) Teacher Certification Pathways
(16:44) Challenges in Transferring Teaching Licenses
(19:29) Navigating Certification Challenges
(26:18) Experiences in Venezuela and Pakistan
(32:35) Social Dynamics in Expat Communities
(35:17) Onboarding and Community Engagement
(49:58) The Importance of Multi-Hat Roles in Small Schools
(51:16) The One Percent School Model
(53:11) Stability Over Expansion
(55:18) Future Plans and Doctorate Journey
(59:01) Travel Essentials and Personal Stories
(01:04:12) Final Thoughts and Advice
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The International Teacher Podcast is a bi-weekly discussion with experts in international education. New Teachers, burned out local teachers, local School Leaders, International school Leadership, current Overseas Teachers, and everyone interested in international schools can benefit from hearing stories and advice about living and teaching overseas.
Additional Gems Related to Our Show:
Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hw
Signup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01
Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/
Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpat
JPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/
Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdO
Children’s Book Series (on Amazon) By Hannah Loney:
Passport Adventures: The Pearl of Kuwait (Book 1)
Books (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:
Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Children's Picture Book
International Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
"International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
ITP - 159 Denise shares her unconventional journey into education, from a background in fashion to building a teaching career across Taiwan, Korea, international schools, and eventually California. She reflects on earning her master’s degree, adapting to different school systems, navigating hiring practices, and experiencing the contrast between public and international education. Along the way, she discusses classroom diversity, cultural differences, and what it means to commit long-term to a school and community abroad.
The conversation also explores the major career and lifestyle changes brought on by COVID-19, the realities of relocating to California, and the challenges surrounding work visas and immigration. Denise shares memorable travel and customs stories, practical advice for moving overseas, and thoughts on her future career goals. Her experiences highlight the flexibility, resilience, and openness required to build a life across countries and embrace the many different ways people live and work around the world.
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The International Teacher Podcast is a bi-weekly discussion with experts in international education. New Teachers, burned out local teachers, local School Leaders, International school Leadership, current Overseas Teachers, and everyone interested in international schools can benefit from hearing stories and advice about living and teaching overseas.
Additional Gems Related to Our Show:
Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hw
Signup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01
Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/
Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpat
JPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/
Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdO
Books (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:
Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Childrens Picture Book
International Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
"International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
Apps by Greg:
https://apps.apple.com/app/6755244840 1. Who’s That? Name & Face Trainer Nov 21, 2025
https://apps.apple.com/app/6756509803 2. Facetag | Memory Trainer Dec 16, 2025
Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction and Podcast Dynamics
(03:01) Denise's Journey into Education
(06:07) Transitioning from Fashion to Teaching
(09:08) Teaching Experience in Taiwan
(11:51) Pursuing a Master's Degree in Education
(15:08) Teaching in Korea and Cultural Insights
(17:59) International School Experiences and Hiring Practices
(23:07) Contrasting Teaching Experiences: Public vs. International Schools
(26:06) Diversity in the Classroom: A Global Perspective
(32:22) The Long-Term Commitment: Staying in One School
(35:02) Navigating Career Changes: The Impact of COVID-19
(40:22) Cultural Adjustments: Moving to California
(52:40) International Education: Differences in Teaching Approaches
(54:25) Cultural Experiences in California
(56:31) Navigating Work Visas and Immigration Challenges
(59:50) Future Aspirations and Career Goals
(01:02:54) Customs Stories and Travel Experiences
(01:08:02) Practical Essentials for Moving Abroad
(01:13:16) Embracing Diverse Lifestyles
ITP - 158 Join us for a candid conversation with former international teacher and Choose Your Own Finance founder Blair Hoover as she shares how she went from being unable to afford an onion to achieving financial independence through international teaching, disciplined saving, and long-term investing. We explore teacher burnout, working in the UAE, the FIRE movement, retirement planning for international educators, common expat investment mistakes, and why teachers abroad need to build their own financial safety net before school contracts, health, or age make the decision for them.
Choose Your Own Finance — Blair Hoover https://www.cyofinance.com/
Book a consultation with Blair https://www.cyofinance.com/book-online
Blair Hoover on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/blairhoover/
SimplyFI — Personal Finance and Investing Community https://www.simplyfi.org/
SimplyFI Facebook Group
Resources Mentioned
https://www.facebook.com/groups/SimplyFI/
Bogleheads — Investing Advice and Resources https://www.bogleheads.org/
Andrew Hallam — Millionaire Teacher https://themillionaireteacher.com/
Millionaire Teacher: The Nine Rules of Wealth You Should Have Learned in School https://www.amazon.com/dp/1119356296/
Millionaire Expat: How to Build Wealth Living Overseas https://www.amazon.com/dp/1119411890/
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The International Teacher Podcast is a bi-weekly discussion with experts in international education. New Teachers, burned out local teachers, local School Leaders, International school Leadership, current Overseas Teachers, and everyone interested in international schools can benefit from hearing stories and advice about living and teaching overseas.
Additional Gems Related to Our Show:
Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hw
Signup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01
Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/
Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpat
JPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/
Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdO
Books (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:
Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Childrens Picture Book
International Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
"International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
Apps by Greg:
https://apps.apple.com/app/6755244840 1. Who’s That? Name & Face Trainer Nov 21, 2025
https://apps.apple.com/app/6756509803 2. Facetag | Memory Trainer Dec 16, 2025
ITP - 156 Welcome to the Canadian Podcast special, with our guests, The Stunt Brothers. In this episode, Greg and JP talk with Roy and Martin, hosts of After the Bell, a Canadian education podcast thankfully free of wrestling promos, folding chairs, and questionable spandex. With more than 70 years of combined teaching experience, Roy and Martin share how they found their way into education, from geology and Japan to classrooms in British Columbia, while digging into teacher identity, classroom culture, local theatre, pantomime, admin near-misses, food insecurity, school technology, work-life balance, and why laughter still matters in education. This conversation is a cross-podcast celebration of teaching, travel, Canadian-ness, airport security stories, and the strange magic that happens when experienced educators keep talking after the bell.
Their Podcast Link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/after-the-bell/id1539877242
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/941827558047720
Their Website: https://stuntbrothers.ca/
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The International Teacher Podcast is a bi-weekly discussion with experts in international education. New Teachers, burned out local teachers, local School Leaders, International school Leadership, current Overseas Teachers, and everyone interested in international schools can benefit from hearing stories and advice about living and teaching overseas.
Additional Gems Related to Our Show:
Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hw
Signup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01
Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/
Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpat
JPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/
Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdO
Books (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:
Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Childrens Picture Book
International Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
"International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
Apps by Greg:
https://apps.apple.com/app/6755244840 1. Who’s That? Name & Face Trainer Nov 21, 2025
https://apps.apple.com/app/6756509803 2. Facetag | Memory Trainer Dec 16, 2025
Chapters
(00:00) Introduction and Icebreakers
(00:56) Cultural Connections and Canadian Identity
(07:54) Journey into Education: Personal Stories
(14:42) Reflections on Teaching and International Experience
(15:39) Journey Through Canada: Geography and Weather Challenges
(19:37) Teaching Experiences: Building Rapport in the Classroom
(28:08) Theater and Teaching: A Unique Connection
(34:04) Navigating Administrative Roles in Education
(37:37) Podcasting Journey: Sharing Experiences and Insights
(39:57) The Impact of Technology in Education
(41:52) Guest Experiences and Cross-Pollination
(43:07) Connecting Pop Culture with Education
(44:16) Travel Stories and Cultural Insights
(51:38) Humorous Encounters with Security
(58:07) Final Thoughts and Reflections on Teaching
Marijn Bergsma joins Greg and JP to talk about growing up as a third culture kid, raising gifted children, and feeling the familiar pull back toward international life. The conversation moves through childhood in the United States and Japan, returning “home” to the Netherlands, parenting highly capable kids who do not always fit neatly into school systems, and the possibility of becoming an international educator later in life. It is a thoughtful, funny, and very human conversation about family, restlessness, learning, burnout, and why overseas life has a way of turning ordinary years into unforgettable chapters.
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The International Teacher Podcast is a bi-weekly discussion with experts in international education. New Teachers, burned out local teachers, local School Leaders, International school Leadership, current Overseas Teachers, and everyone interested in international schools can benefit from hearing stories and advice about living and teaching overseas.
Additional Gems Related to Our Show:
Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hw
Signup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01
Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/
Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpat
JPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/
Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdO
Books (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:
Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Childrens Picture Book
International Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
"International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
Apps by Greg:
https://apps.apple.com/app/6755244840 1. Who’s That? Name & Face Trainer Nov 21, 2025
https://apps.apple.com/app/6756509803 2. Facetag | Memory Trainer Dec 16, 2025
Chapters
(00:00) Introduction and Name Origins
(01:31) Marijn's International Journey
(04:28) The Itch to Travel and Family Dynamics
(07:21) Navigating Education for Gifted Children
(09:57) Cultural Differences and Family Adventures
(13:09) The Challenges of School Systems
(15:59) The Importance of Parental Involvement
(18:59) Creating Chapters in Life Through Travel
(22:06) Engaging Gifted Children in Learning
(25:07) The Process of Learning and Curiosity
(34:39) The Power of Learning Together
(37:06) Navigating the Teaching Journey
(39:08) Embracing Change and New Challenges
(44:14) The Importance of Connection in Teaching
(49:04) Overcoming Immigration Challenges
(56:08) Finding a Sense of Home Abroad
ITP - 154 Dr. Robin Heslip joins us to share nearly 50 years of experience in international education, from her early teaching days in Wisconsin to leadership roles in Kinshasa, Rabat, Kuala Lumpur, Buenos Aires, Zagreb, Abu Dhabi, and the Office of Overseas Schools. In this episode, Dr. Heslip reflects on international school leadership, accreditation, recruiting fairs, governance, mentorship, women in educational leadership, and what it really means to find the right fit overseas. Her journey is a masterclass in teaching abroad, leading international schools, building school communities, and paying forward the wisdom that keeps international education moving.
Accreditation Associations Mentioned
Middle States Association — MSA https://msa-cess.org
Western Association of Schools and Colleges — WASC https://www.acswasc.org
Cognia — formerly connected with the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools — SACS / Cognia https://www.cognia.org
New England Association of Schools and Colleges — NEASC https://www.neasc.org
University of Northern Iowa Overseas Teaching Services — UNI https://teachoverseas.uni.edu
International Schools Services — ISS https://www.iss.edu
Search Associates — Search https://www.searchassociates.com
Recruiting Agencies / Job Search Organizations Mentioned
University of Northern Iowa Overseas Teaching Services — UNI https://teachoverseas.uni.edu
International Schools Services — ISS https://www.iss.edu
Search Associates — Search https://www.searchassociates.com
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The International Teacher Podcast is a bi-weekly discussion with experts in international education. New Teachers, burned out local teachers, local School Leaders, International school Leadership, current Overseas Teachers, and everyone interested in international schools can benefit from hearing stories and advice about living and teaching overseas.
Additional Gems Related to Our Show:
Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hw
Signup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01
Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/
Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpat
JPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/
Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdO
Books (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:
Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Childrens Picture Book
International Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
"International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
Apps by Greg:
https://apps.apple.com/app/6755244840 1. Who’s That? Name & Face Trainer Nov 21, 2025
https://apps.apple.com/app/6756509803 2. Facetag | Memory Trainer Dec 16, 2025
ITP - 153 Yolanda Reshemah joins us from California to explore the complicated, emotional, and often beautiful question of where we belong after living across cultures. Born in St. Vincent and the Grenadines, raised in England, shaped by France, and now living in the United States with a German husband and a globally minded daughter, Yolanda brings a deeply personal perspective on home, identity, relocation, culture shock, loneliness, raising TCKs, and building community after moving abroad. As the host of The Places We Call Home, Yolanda shares practical insight for international teachers, expats, parents, and globally mobile families trying to create belonging wherever life takes them.Her website: https://theplaceswecallhome.com/Her Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-places-we-call-home-podcast/id1744856570Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/placeswecallhomepod/-more information-The International Teacher Podcast is a bi-weekly discussion with experts in international education. New Teachers, burned out local teachers, local School Leaders, International school Leadership, current Overseas Teachers, and everyone interested in international schools can benefit from hearing stories and advice about living and teaching overseas.Additional Gems Related to Our Show:Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hwSignup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpatJPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdOBooks (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Childrens Picture BookInternational Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed."International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.Apps by Greg:https://apps.apple.com/app/6755244840 1. Who’s That? Name & Face Trainer Nov 21, 2025https://apps.apple.com/app/6756509803 2. Facetag | Memory Trainer Dec 16, 2025Chapters(00:00) Introduction and Guest Introductions(01:34) Yolanda's International Journey(05:01) Cultural Identity and Belonging(11:35) The Concept of Home(16:22) Yolanda's Podcast: The Places We Call Home(20:15) Challenges of Relocation and Community Building(25:19) Navigating Life During COVID-19(30:07) Creative Connections and Future Collaborations(33:53) Navigating Cultural Transitions(37:54) Building a New Life: Tools for Adjustment(42:23) Creating Stability in a Transient Life(48:00) The Concept of Home: More Than Just a Place(51:12) Rituals and Anchors in Different Cultures(53:46) Lighthearted Travel Stories and Lessons Learned(01:01:08) Reflections on Connection and Shared Experiences
ITP 152 - Rich Boerner, former Head of School in South Korea, Bangladesh, and Brazil, joins the International Teacher Podcast to unpack how AI is changing international school hiring, teacher interviews, and the search for true school fit. Drawing on decades of leadership experience, Rich explains why resumes, cover letters, and traditional interviews often fail to predict teacher success, especially when bias, brand-name schools, and polished “performance theater” get in the way. The conversation explores TruFit Talent, an AI-supported recruitment model using role-play simulations, competency-based assessment, and evidence-driven hiring data to help international schools find stronger candidates while giving teachers a fairer shot. From TCK life and school leadership to recruitment failures, hiring costs, candidate ghosting, and the future of teacher interviews, this conversation digs into what international educators really need: more “the right fit”, clearer expectations, and fewer expensive hiring disasters dressed up as “bad fit.”
Rich’s Email: [email protected]
The TruFit Talent website: https://www.trufittalent.com/
Try it Out! https://try.trufittalent.com/
Geek out with TrueProof, which is the way they measure AI authenticity in the candidates’ application process to make sure they’re doing it ethically and fairly. Fascinating work. https://www.trufittalent.com/truproof#how-truproof-works
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The International Teacher Podcast is a bi-weekly discussion with experts in international education. New Teachers, burned out local teachers, local School Leaders, International school Leadership, current Overseas Teachers, and everyone interested in international schools can benefit from hearing stories and advice about living and teaching overseas.
Additional Gems Related to Our Show:
Greg’s Favorite Video From Living Overseas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKBwzF-hw
Signup to be our guest https://calendly.com/itpexpat/itp-interview?month=2025-01
Our Website - https://www.itpexpat.com/
Our FaceBook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/itpexpat
JPMint Consulting Website - https://www.jpmintconsulting.com/
Hannah’s Personal IG - https://www.instagram.com/thatexpatfamily?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Greg’s Personal YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs1B3Wc0wm6DR_99OS5SyzvuzENc-bBdO
Books (on Amazon) By Gregory Lemoine:
Stay for the Show (2026) | Greg’s first Childrens Picture Book
International Teacher Guide: Finding the "Right Fit" 2nd Edition (2025) | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
"International Teaching: The Best-kept Secret in Education" | by Gregory Lemoine M.Ed.
Apps by Greg:
https://apps.apple.com/app/6755244840 1. Who’s That? Name & Face Trainer Nov 21, 2025
https://apps.apple.com/app/6756509803 2. Facetag | Memory Trainer Dec 16, 2025
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