Michelle and Seth speak with director CJ Wallis about making documentaries, going from hockey to filmmaking and playing Tetris with Billy Mitchell. Wallis is the director of Perfect Bid: The Contestant Who Knew Too Much, and he describes getting his start only for it to come crashing down, and preservering in the face of adversity. It's an inspiring conversation about putting yourself out there, telling stories you care about and making the most of your time. In other words, a must listen for any aspiring filmmakers out there. Check it out!

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