Grab your tricorders and set your phasers to fun, it's another nerdy episode of the interview show. This time, Bob talks with the funny and talented Seán Ferrick, host of TrekCulture's Ups and Downs, a must-watch YouTube show in which Seán reviews episodes of Star Trek, both new and old. Seán is immensely entertaining and positive -- a total blast, even if you're only a casual Trek fan. Today we talked about the culture and politics of Star Trek, plus a little bit about pop culture criticism, online fandom, how Sean produces episodes of Ups and Downs, and a lot more. Follow Seán on Twitter and Instagram. Meantime, make sure to support this podcast by subscribing at patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by Circe Link, Christian Nesmith, and Paul Melançon.

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