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Yucca: Welcome back to the Wonder: Science-Based Paganism. I'm one of your hosts Yucca, 

Mark: And then the other one, Mark.

Yucca: And today we have a really special episode. This is going to be one of our interview episodes, and we have Sedna Woo with us to talk about atheists witchcraft.

Mark: Yay. Welcome. Sedna. 

Sedna Woo: Hello. Thank you. It's good to be here. 

Mark: Well, we're really delighted to have you love your YouTube channel. We'll, we'll put a link to it in the episode notes. So folks can go and check out your stuff. But let's just dive right in. And while we're talking, you know, feel free to ask us questions too. This doesn't have to be a one-way process.

So, first, can you tell us a little about yourself and your channel, how you came to atheist witchcraft and what it means to you?

Sedna Woo: Yeah, absolutely. So growing up, I was a Like pretty run of the mill, like Christian family. Also it was the nineties. So there was a lot of like, wacky things going on when you? were growing up Christian, there's less of like strange youth groups and rock bands and like just this all blissed out thing.

And when I got to university and I got exposed to the fact that there was not just one way of thinking about things, it kind of blew my mind and it rocked me around a little bit. But I didn't actually completely deconvert until I was like in my mid twenties. And then it just sort of like, you know, you, you pull through.

And then pretty soon the whole thing just unravels. And then I felt really like, I had been done in, I felt like I had been lied to, so I was really mad about it. So I kind of like fell into that whole angry atheist scene. The anger, atheist YouTubers are like in full force at this time. There's lots of angry atheist books to consume.

There was also some groups and my husband teases me a lot because I jumped from one. To another club. Cause I just don't really social. Like I just love clubs. And it just seems funny to like meet at a bar and just talk about not believing in God, like for many, many weekends. But then, you know, you just sort of cool off of that kind of thing and like.

You just kind of waffle around and you'd look for something to replace that. And I started doing the witchy stuff, cause I just knew people that do the witchy stuff. And I knew that there was nothing supernatural about it and I just kept those two things apart. And and then just one day I was driving to work and I heard an NPR story about somebody a writer and they were using.

Placebos, like open-label placebos to like, get themselves out of writer's block. And I was an artist and I was having a lot of creative, black, and I just, you know, like was listened to it and it just dawned on me. I was like, oh my gosh, that's what I've been doing with this witchcraft the whole time.

Like, that's the science behind what I'm doing. Like, that's why it's working. I've been placebo. And so then I kind of ran home and after work that day, and I like did some research and I just got so excited about it that I wanted to hear what other people were doing. And when I looked around online, I, I couldn't find content creators.

And I like was a big consumer of content. So I thought, Okay, I guess it's going to be me. And so I Slap together a channel and did a really silly, like that video. That first video is just, it's really hard for me to like, know that it's still out there on guitar, but I can't delete it because it's got so many really good comments on it.

It was like a really good conversation underneath it. So I can't like take it down and redo it, but anyway, and that's yeah, that's, I guess we're all got started and it turns out there was a lot of people out there. I just wasn't finding the content because the internet is so big that it just took a loss swirling on my part to.

You're able to like find those resources. And so now I've found lots of conte