John Seago is the legislative director of Texas Right to Live, the group that recently helped shepherd Texas’s anti-abortion law into existence. We sat down for a wide-ranging, 45-minute discussion about the bill, why it was crafted the way it was, and some of his thoughts about the ethical nuances of the pro-life position.

Our newsletter is written by Isaac Saul, who conducted this interview. The transcript was edited by Bailey Saul, Sean Brady, Ari Weitzman, and produced in conjunction with Tangle’s social media manager Magdalena Bokowa, who also created our logo.

The podcast is edited by Trevor Eichhorn, and music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75. 

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