In today's episode, I talk with Chris Shinkle, Director of Innovation at SEP. I believe today's episode is one of the most important interviews I've done to date, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!

Today's episode is sponsored by Linode.

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Another huge announcement - Developer Tea is officially available on Spotify!