In this episode, I spoke with Dr. Phil Loring, Arrell Chair in Food, Policy and Society at the University of Guelph. While we spent a lot of our time talking about sustainability in food systems and food security, there’s so much applicability for raw ingredients used in cosmetics. In our conversation, we talked about Phil’s research on food security, sustainability in our food systems, science and pseudoscience, steps moving forward, and lots more.