In episode 5 of the Invictus Leo Podcast, we chat with Steve Hiscoe, owner of Hiscoe Jiu Jitsu. Steve has had his academy for 27 years and is also a staff sergeant with the RCMP. In this episode we cover: keeping your relationship with your students, the financial stress in COVID and understanding the students needs, the importance of kids and ages specific class, the Canadian Jiu Jitsu Union, value for students, use of force instruction for police.