Welcome back to Irene Lyon for our second chat on TBA. We pick up largely where we left off from our first interview (ep 17), namely into this question I had — and have — around okay, so we're aware of this trauma thing ... what do we do about it?

Wondrous, deep territory. Plus the pitfalls and joys of teaching online (newly on my mind as well).

Also, here's that 15-min neuroception exercise.

Love, LB. Get this, as always, on iTunes et al, or download direct here.