Irenicast - A Progressive Christian Podcast

Can We Get Better At Doing Spirituality? Astrology to Astronomy, Phrenology to Psychology, and Alchemy to Chemistry -- in what ways is theology becoming? Is there such a thing as spiritual intelligence? And what do we do with the Evangelical ideas of progress and work ethic in relation to individualized faith? Jeff and Allen tackle the topic of "bettering" ourselves and our faith traditions in honor of the New Year, then share their own resolutions for 2018.

Can We Get Better At Doing Spirituality? Conversation (01:17)

New Year Resolutions (40:15)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Can We Get Better At Doing Spirituality?

• The primary article Allen mentioned at the top of the episode is behind a paywall, but here is a link to the author's bio.
• 9 Types Of Intelligence – Infographic
• Word ban at CDC includes 'vulnerable,' 'fetus,' 'transgender' (Video)
• 2017, in 7 minutes (Vox Video)
• Phrenology
• Social Psychology and Neuroscience: Strange Bedfellows or a Healthy Marriage? (article)

From Our New Year Resolution Segment

• Firestone Brewery
• Allen mentions a conversation we had on the podcast about sandwiches. That can be found in the Pursuit of the Trivial segment on episode #034 of the podcast.
• Allen's New Year Resolution Progress

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You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections. Also check out Allen's new year resolution progress at https://mudbeforeblood.wordpress.com/

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Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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The illustrious Deborah Blades joins us to discuss the incarnation, the disruption that are bodies, and what a theology formed in postcolonial and feminist theory might look like around the holidays. For the segment, Jeff, Allen, and Debbie talk about those times they each discovered Santa was a little too incredible.

Incarnation Conversation (01:23)

When We Stopped Believing in Santa Segment (57:59)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Incarnation

• The Story of Gentle Thursday – Loss, Language and Feminist Theology – Guest Hosts Kat & Dr. Debbie – 072 (Deborah Blades' First Appearance on Irenicast)
• Dr. Nancy Bedford (Theologian, Professor)
• Selected Essays by Ralph Waldo Emerson (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Allen's Picture of the Hindu Mandir (Instagram Pic)

• Homoousios (Theological Term)
• Beyond Monotheism: A Theology of Multiplicity by Laurel Schneider (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Theotokos (Theological Term)
• Julian of Norwich: Celebrating Mother Jesus by Kittredge Cherry (Blog Post)
• Gnosticism
• Orange is the New Black (Netflix TV Series)
• Carman - The Champion (YouTube Video)
• The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant by John Crossan (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our When We Found Our Santa Wasn't Real Segment

• The Star (2017 Film)

• Thor: Ragnarok (2017 Film)

THANK YOU

We are extremely grateful for Dr. Deborah Blades being a voice on this episode.

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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The sovereignty of God can bring with it a lot of questions and/or baggage depending upon your religious context. Is God in control? What is God's will for our lives? Is history already determined? This week Allen and Jeff discuss how their answers to these questions have changed for them over the years and what that has meant for their lives and spirituality.

Conversation on the Sovereignty of God (00:37)

Wacky News Segment (43:18)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Sovereignty of God Conversation

• Decision Making and the Will of God by Garry Friesen and J. Robin Maxson (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Divine Concurrence (Theological Term)
• Calvinism (Theological Term)
• Hammurabi (6th king of the First Babylonian Dynasty)
• Code of Hammurabi (Babylonian Code of Law)
• Wolfhart Pannenberg (Theologian)
• Process Theology (Theological Term)
• Alfred North Whitehead (Theologian)
• Theology for the Community of God by Stanley J. Grenz (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Open Theism (Theological Term)
• Numbers 22 (CEB) - The Story of Balaam
• Daniel 4 (CEB) - Nebuchadnezzar's Animal Transformation
• Donnie Darko (2001 Film - Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our Wacky News Segment

• At a Navajo veterans' event, Trump makes 'Pocahontas' crack (Article)
• Trump's latest tweetstorm called Kim Jong Un "short and fat" (Article)
• "Dog Tamagotchi" - Super Deluxe
• English firefighters saved some piglets from a blaze; then they ate them as sausages (Article)
• Used Car Commercial (YouTube Video)
• It's Time To Rename Fire Ants 'Spicy Boys' (Article)
• David Beckham (Soccer Player)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our post-evangelical conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

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Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Is sincerity dead? "I don't stand by anything" - both presidential quotation and epitaph on the tombstone of sincerity. Do we believe one another? Ourselves? And does it matter anymore? Jeff and Allen debate the presence of sincerity in public space and places of faith, before crafting their perfect Thanksgiving guest list.

Our Conversation on Is Sincerity Dead? (00:50)

Thanksgiving Dinner Party Segment (38:42)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Is Sincerity Dead

• Trump Proud to be a Troll (Tweet)
• The Trump Presidency: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (YouTube Video)
• Danica Roem of Virginia to be first openly transgender person elected, seated in a U.S. statehouse (Article)
• 'Peak TV in America': Is there really too much good scripted television? (Article)
• Danica Roem Had the Perfect Response When Asked About Her Opponent Post-Election (Article)
• Doubling Down (South Park Episode)

From Our Thanksgiving Dinner Party Segment (Our Diner Party Segment was also done on Episode #025)

• Allen's Thanksgiving Dinner
• • JK Rowling (Author)
  • Ethan Klein (YouTube Personality, H3H3 Productions)
  • Joe Lo Truglio (Actor, plays Detective Charles Boyle in Brooklyn Nine-Nine)
  • I Love You, Man (3/10) Best Movie Quote - Here we go Galaxy! (YouTube Clip)
  • Dennis Haysbert (Actor, played President David Palmer in the original 24)
  • Righteous Brothers - Unchained Melody ('Ghost' Soundtrack) (YouTube Clip)
  • Serj Tankian (Musician)

• Jeff's Thanksgiving Dinner
• • Alton Brown (Celebrity Cook)
  • How to Build a Derrick, Alton Brown (YouTube Video)
  • Edgar Wright (Writer/Director)
  • Edgar Wright's 1000 Favorite Movies (Article)
  • Patton Oswalt (Actor/Comedian)
  • Patton Oswalt, Annihilation (Comedy Special)
  • Donald Glover (Modern Day Renaissance Man)
  • Gail Simone (Comicbook Writer)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our post-evangelical conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

Like Us on Facebook

Listen & Subscribe to Us on iTunes, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

See Us on Instagram

Support Us on Amazon

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

What do we do with our Evangelical roots in reconciling the past? How do we navigate our former relationships? Jeff and Allen review their own efforts to reconnect and reframe at this point in their journeys through the post-evangelical wilderness and offer a few ideas that have helped them immensely along the way. And in the spirit of reflection, they name the top three things from their childhoods that didn't hold up so well.

Reconciling the Past Conversation (01:00)

Top 3 Things From Our Childhood That Did Not Age Well Segment (43:52)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Reconciling the Past

• The United Church of Christ, aka the UCC (Christian Denomination)
• Hot Fuzz (2007 Film)
• O'Brien, Oregon
• Why Most Evangelicals Don't Condemn Trump (Article)
• How fights over Trump have led evangelicals to leave their churches Article)

From Our Top 3 Segment

• How I Met Your Mother (2005 TV Series)
• IT (2017 Film)
• IT (1990 TV Mini-series)
• Big League Chew
• Buttercream gang movie highlights (YouTube Video)
• McGee and Me! (Christian Video Series)
• Friends (1994 TV Series)

THANK YOU

Thank you Katherine for your kind review of the show in Apple Podcasts! She writes,

"Fantastic for theology geeks and Christians with questions...

I love this podcast! I have a Bachelor of Divinity, and Irenicast helps me to keep my theology brain going. Allen, Jeff & Mona and their guests have also opened my eyes to ways I can be more inclusive and more like Jesus."

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our post-evangelical conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

Like Us on Facebook

Listen & Subscribe to Us on iTunes, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

See Us on Instagram

Support Us on Amazon

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

The witch hunts of the early modern period were served by the very things we trade in today: uncritical reception of tradition, groupthink, the impulse toward comfort and away from "otherness." Since Halloween is just around the corner, Jeff and Allen discuss that perhaps we still hunt witches in our own time by proposing a spiritual discipline of resisting. The episode closes with a classic round of Jesus Juke. This time, they Jesus-ify Horror Film tropes.

Conversation on Are The Witch Hunts Behind Us (00:49)

Jesus Juke Horror Trope Edition (46:14)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Are the Witch Hunts Behind Us?

• Witch Village - Monty Python and the Holy Grail (YouTube Video)
• The Baby-Makin', Prone-to-Evil, "Other" Gender: Woman. (Irenicon Blog Post by Allen)
• Heinrich Kramer (Author of Hammer of Witches, Churchman and Inquisitor)
• Jacob Sprenger (Co-Author of Hammer of Witches, Dominican Friar)
• Malleus Maleficarum aka Hammer of Witches (Treatise on witchcraft)
• Thomas Aquinas (Theologian)
• The Summa Theologica (Document)
• Aristotle's Views on Women
• Nadia Bolz-Weber (Twitter Account)
• Velvet Elvis by Rob Bell (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link… Allen was talking about the analogy of our theology being like a trampoline, which some from this book)
• Do Humans Have Souls ? – I Challenge You To A Dualism! – 007 (Irenicast Episode on the Soul)
• Eminem Rips Donald Trump In BET Hip Hop Awards Freestyle Cypher (YouTube Video)
• Rick and Morty Forever 100 Years | Rick and Morty | Adult Swim (YouTube Video)
• Rick and Morty - I WANT THAT MULAN MCNUGGETS SAUCE MORTY (YouTube Video)
• Souad Mekhennet Was Told To Come Alone (Robcast Episode interviewing Souad Mekhennet about her interviews with ISIS members)
• I Was Told To Come Alone by Souad Mekhennet (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our Jesus Juke Segment (Jesus Juke has also been done on episodes 003, 039, 075, 096)

• Jon Acuff (Author)
• The Fog (1980 and 2005 Film)
• The Mist (2007 Film)
• Small Soldiers (1998 Film)
• Forgiving is NOT Forgetting - Doing Wholly Work - 073 (Irenicast Episode with the Create-a-Cult Segment)
• Shawn of the Dead (2004 Film)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our post-evangelical conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

Like Us on Facebook

Listen & Subscribe to Us on iTunes, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

See Us on Instagram

Support Us on Amazon

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

The texts we love to misquote. In this new series, Jeff and Allen will occasionally spend an episode tackling infamously out of context verses in the Bible thrown around the Christian world. This time it's a passage used by everyone from athletes to those who oppose psychology. Philippians 4:13

Out of Context Verses Philippians 4:13 Conversation (00:59) Judging a Book by Its Cover Segment (36:35)

RELEVANT LINKS

Previous Episodes on the Bible

• The Nature of Biblical Texts – Wholly Scripture, Batman! – 004 (Irenicast Episode)
• Interpreting the Bible Part 1 – Literally Literature – 063 (Irenicast Episode)
• Interpreting the Bible Part 2 – A Scribed Meaning – 064 (Irenicast Episode)
• Interpreting the Bible Part 3 – Collecting Lenses – 065 (Irenicast Episode)

From Our Out of Context Verses Philippians 4:13 Conversation

• 11 Bible Verses on Tim Tebow's Eye Black (Article)
• Nacho Libre (Film)
• Stoicism
• You're Not 'Blessed' You're Privileged, So Shut Up (Article)
• Colin Kaepernick (Football Player)
• Nouthetic Counseling (aka Biblical Counseling
• Association of Certified Biblical Counselors (Formerly National Association of Nouthetic Counselors)
• Competent to Counsel by Jay E. Adams (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Competent to Counsel: An Interview with Jay Adams (Article)

From Our 'Judging a Book by Its Cover' Segment (This segment has also been done on episodes #007, #020 & #074)

• For Steam And Country by Jon Del Arroz (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Pocket Book of Boners (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Dr. Seuss (Author)
• The Mushroom in Christian Art: The Identity of Jesus in the Development of Christianity by John Rush (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Nipple on My Knee (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our post-evangelical conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

Like Us on Facebook

Listen & Subscribe to Us on iTunes, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

See Us on Instagram

Support Us on Amazon

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Anyone remotely plugged into 90's contemporary Christian music has probably heard of Jennifer Knapp. This week Jeff has a wonderful conversation with her about everything from early years in the Christian music industry to her current music and work with LGBTQ people of faith.

MORE ABOUT JENNIFER KNAPP'S NEW ALBUM

Jennifer Knapp has experienced enough chaos and turmoil in her life that she could write about it on every album. Instead, she made Love Comes Back Around, a collection of songs that focus on what really matters.

Funded through a PledgeMusic campaign and produced by Viktor Krauss, Knapp's latest features 10 compelling new tunes exploring love — but not the easy kind. These are love songs for grown-ups who have come a few miles. "It's not just sex, it's not just physical relationships," Knapp says. "It's hard work. It's loss, it's forgiveness, it's a lot of things wrapped up in one."

Love Comes Back Around pairs her fearless songwriting and strong, expressive voice with rootsy arrangements: there's growling guitar and a snakey beat on opener "Straight Road," subtle horns layered into the background on "Perfect Pardon" and the mournful interplay of piano and acoustic guitar on "Roll Over Me." Knapp's vocals are the centerpiece of the title track, which she says is "a look at the mundane things in our lives, between who makes the bed and who doesn't, and what makes you miss your partner when she's gone." In other words, the real stuff.

Knapp knows plenty about that. Love Comes Back Around is her sixth album in a music career with two distinct sections. After releasing three contemporary Christian albums in the late '90s and early 2000s, she took a long break from music and moved to Australia before resuming her career in 2009. The following year, she came out as gay and released Letting Go, her first mainstream album. Set Me Free followed in 2014, in conjunction with a memoir, Facing the Music: My Story.

"At this point in my life, I've been in a relationship for well over a decade, I've had a public controversy and had to weather the storm over my sexual orientation in public, I've had to deal with what my faith does or doesn't mean to my music," Knapp says. After all that, she was ready to focus on something else. "I started thinking about a universal approach to what love is, and not just the sappy part."

Knapp's return to music included moving back to Nashville, where she was based earlier in her career. "I've experienced Nashville in two ways," she says. "At the heart of my stardom, so to speak, when things were really busy and I toured a lot, the irony was that even though I made my home here and worked professionally here, I wasn't home enough to enjoy the camaraderie."

This time around, she's home enough to have become part of a creative community. That's how she connected with Krauss: friends of Knapp's who knew the producer's work recommended him. After Knapp listened, she invited Krauss out for ice cream and asked him to work with her on Love Comes Back Around.

"If you don't deliver music that creates the emotional space to dive into the lyrics, a lot of the subtlety is lost, and Viktor really understands that," Knapp says. "He's seen everything and played with everybody and has all these phone numbers, but he's actually really humble and sincere, and that allows an artist like me to have confidence in my own work."

When she's not occupied with music, or doing advocacy work on behalf of LGBTQ people of faith through her Inside Out Faith organization, Knapp is working on a master's degree in theological studies at Vanderbilt Divinity School. It's not what she thought she'd be doing now when she was a young singer first starting out, but life has a way of carving its own unexpected path — and so does love.

"There's something beautiful in all of that," Knapp says. "That's why we call it love. And if it weren't hard sometimes, we wouldn't appreciate the beauty. And if it weren't beautiful, we wouldn't be willing to keep going through the hard parts."

RELEVANT LINKS

• Jennifer Knapp (Musician, Activist)
• Reaching Out by Henri Nouwen (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Inside Out Faith (Non-Profit Organization)
• Jennifer Knapp Discography

• Kansas (1998 Album)
• Lay It Down (2000 Album)
• The Way I Am (2001 Album)
• The Collection (2003 Album)
• Jennifer Knapp Live (2006 Album)
• Evolving EP (2009 EP)
• Let it Go (2010 Album)
• The Hymns of Christmas (2012 Album with Margaret Becker)
• Set Me Free (2014 Album)
• Love Comes Back Around (2017 Album)

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Freshly back in your feed after seven months. Jeff and Allen discuss their work and the return of the podcast, Mona responds to a listener question about abstinence, and Allen gives important news on the personal front.

Opening Catch Up Session (00:11) Listener Response, Mona's Thoughts on Abstinence (13:36) Allen's Shares His Personal Journey (48:35) Closing Remarks (53:38)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Opening Catch Up Session

• Divine Cinema (Podcast)
• Past Divine Cinema Episodes (aka Divine Prequels):
• • Christian Mingle The Movie – A Divine SINema Review – 099 (Irenicast Episode)
  • Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas Review – Divine SINema Series – 095 (Irenicast Episode)
  • A Movie Review of If Footmen Tire You What Will Horses Do? – A Divine SINema Episode – 091 (Irenicast Episode)
  • God's Not Dead 2 Review – Divine SINema Series – 086.5 (Irenicast Episode)
  • A Critical Analysis of God's Not Dead – Divine Sinema – 082.5 (Irenicast Episode)
• United Church of Christ UCC (Denomination)

From Mona's Segment on Abstinence

• I Kissed Dating Goodbye by Joshua Harris (Book)
• Former Evangelical Pastor Rethinks His Approach To Courtship (Article)
• Augustine (Early Christian Theologian)

Closing

• Jennifer Knapp

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In our 100th episode, we take time to reflect on the past, present and future of the show. Jeff, Mona and Allen share about who they were when the show started and reflect on what's changed. They also share their favorite episodes and segments with other listeners who tuned in for our live recording on Facebook.

ANNOUNCEMENTS

After 100 straight weeks of episodes, Irenicast will be taking a bit of a break. We will have an occasional episode over the next coming weeks, but not on a weekly basis until we return from our break. Make sure not to miss anything during our break by liking and following us on our social media pages. The links for all of those are at the bottom of the show notes or on irenicast.com. We will be back!

Divine Sinema is spinning off into its own podcast. It will be no longer Divine Sinema with an 'S', but simply Divine Cinema. We will not just look at the bad side of faith-based movies, but look at all films with faith themes. To keep up to date on information about when the new podcast will officially launch you can follow us on Twitter at @divinecinemapod.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Past, Present and Future Reflection

• Responding to the Global Environmental Crisis – Green Eggs and Traffic Jams – 046 (Irenicast Episode)
• Getting Intelligent About Emotions – A Review of Inside Out – 058 (Irenicast Episode)
• The Call of God to Life – Dr. Patrick B. Reyes Author of Nobody Cries When We Die – 098 (Irenicast Episode)
• The Chris Farley Show - Paul McCartney (NBC SNL Video)
• Farm to Communion Table – A Conversation with Zachary & Christy of Simple Church – 070 (Irenicast Episode)
• Beer Church – Guest Co-Host Jeff – 075 (Irenicast Episode)
• The Story of Gentle Thursday – Loss, Language and Feminist Theology – Guest Hosts Kat & Dr. Debbie – 072 (Irenicast Episode)
• God and Aliens – The Universe Doesn't Revolve Around You, Probably – 032 (Irenicast Episode)
• Engaging Video Game Culture – Evangelism, Exercise and Excess – 093 (Irenicast Episode)
• Firewatch (Video Game - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Sacred v Secular Series - Episodes 024, 025 & 026 (Irenicast Episodes)
• Interpreting the Bible Series - Episodes 063, 064 & 065 (Irenicast Episodes)
• Leaving Evangelicalism – BONUS Episode – 001.5 (Irenicast Episode on Church History)
• Loneliness and Isolation – Baby It's Cold Inside – 040 (Irenicast Episode)
• Families with Special Needs Children – Lily Kate's Story with Guest Host Casey Comstock – 022 (Irenicast Episode)
• On the Nature of Beauty – Beauty within the Beast – 016 (Irenicast Episode)
• Active Listening – Can You Hear Me Now? – 021 (Irenicast Episode)
• Joey Aszterbaum Interview – Skypark, Deconstruction and Sloths – 049 (Irenicast Episode)
• Favorite Irenicast Segments
• • Jesus or Jay-Z on Episodes 001, 013, 022, 060
  • Good News Bad News on Episodes 048, 071
  • Sound Charades on Episodes 047, 064
  • Knowin' Jemonen on Episodes 005, 021, 025, 036, 038, 044, 046, 056, 067, 078, 093
• Can A Person Have Multiple Religious Identities? An Interview with Lauren Andrea-Lucia – 085 (Irenicast Episode)
• Pilgrim at Tinker Creek by Annie Dillard (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Stories Behind the Rhetoric – An Interview with Immigration Lawyer Amber Heffner – 051 (Irenicast Episode)

THANK YOU

Thank you to all of our listeners for your continued support for the show. We are so grateful that many of you find so much value in our podcast.

And thank you especially to all of those that tuned in live on Facebook for our first outing on a live recording. Although we had a couple technical bumps in the road we appreciate you sticking with it and participating in the conversation.

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