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It seems too often that euphemisms in our culture go beyond softening social interaction to propping up the powerful. This week Allen and Jeff explore euphemistic language in various Scriptures, political spin, and how it might create life (or manufacture manipulation) in our own speech. Maybe we don't take language seriously enough? More pointedly, how do we choose between softening words to foster connection and, on the other hand, telling it like it is and speaking truth to power?

Also in this episode Jeff and Allen bring back a classic segment formally called 'Jesus or Jay-Z?'. However, in light of their conversation on language, Jeff and Allen realize it is probably time for a segment name-change. Listen to find out why and give your suggestion on what would be a more fitting.

Main Conversation on Euphemisms (02:48)

Jesus or Jay-Z Segment (41:50)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Euphemisms

• Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth's Animals Appeared At The Same Time (Article)
• The Actual Study
• Reconciling Scripture with Science – EVILution – 003 (Irenicast Episode)
• Waiting for Your Boaz (Blog)
• Ruth 3:7 (Boaz's 'feet' uncovered)
• 1 Samuel 24:3-4 (Saul uncovers his 'feet' to relieve himself)
• Isaiah 7:20 (The hair of their 'feet/legs' shaved)
• Johnny Q Public (Christian Band)
• Women of Zion by Johnny Q Public (Song)
• Isaiah 3:17 (Their 'foreheads' are laid bare)
• Genesis 24:1-4 (Places his hand on his 'thigh')
• Genesis 21:9-10 (Ishmael 'playing' or 'mocking')
• Judges 11:39-40 (he did to her according to the vow he made)
• Euphemisms are dangerous (An unfortunate blog post Jeff refers to in regard to sex workers)
• Worst euphemism of the decade: 'enhanced interrogation techniques' (Article)
• Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse (Wiki Article)
• Roseanne Barr Leaves Twitter, Apologizes After Racially Charged Tweet Sparks Outrage (Example article headline using a euphemism for racist)
• George Orwell (English novelist, essayist, journalist, and critic)
• The Hidden Danger of Euphemisms (Article Jeff mentions with the quote "Euphemistic language is the timeless enemy of anyone concerned with clarity.)
• Human bias is a huge problem for AI. Here's how we're going to fix it (Article)

• Evangelist Franklin Graham: "Progressive" Is Just "Another Word for Godless" (Blog Post)
• Shane Claiborne Says Liberty U Threatened to Have Him Arrested After Asking Falwell For Campus Prayer Vigil (Article)
• FBI: Hate crimes reach 5-year high in 2016, jumped as Trump rolled toward presidency (Article)

From Our Segment (This segment has also been done on episodes #001, #013, #022 & #060)

• Leaving Evangelicalism – East of Eden – 001 (Irenicast Episode)
• Break Free by Decyfer Down (YouTube Video)
• Secular vs Sacred – Part 1, Stories – 024
• Secular vs Sacred – Part 2, Spaces – 025
• Secular vs Sacred – Part 3, Selves – 026
• Holy Diver by Dio (YouTube Video)
• Christian Rock Hard (South Park Episode S07E09)
• Plus One (Christian Boy Band)
• Heathens by 21 Pilots (YouTube Video)
• Stressed Out by 21 Pilots (YouTube Video)
• Kill Me, Heal Me by Skillet (YouTube Video)
• Facing Changes by Hangnail (YouTube Video)
• I Need Love by LL Cool J (YouTube Video)

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IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

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Author Austin Channing Brown shares with us about her new book, I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness, and life of work as a black woman in predominantly white ministries and spaces. The discussion touches on topics from writing to anger, creativity, expression, parenthood and more.

Austin is a freelance writer and speaker with a particular focus on black womanhood and faith. She is working on her first book to be released in May 2018. Her writing can be found in Sojourners Magazine, Relevant Magazine, Mutuality Magazine, and other places around the web. She also wrote a column called Wild Hope for Today's Christian Woman which is still accessible to readers. Passionate about racial justice and reconciliation, Austin travels the country preaching and teaching about the ways this work intersects with Christian faith.

Austin attended North Park University where she earned a degree in business management. She also has a masters degree in social justice from Marygrove College in Detroit, MI. Since earning her masters, Austin has worked with nonprofits, churches, parachurch ministries, and universities in both the urban and suburban context for the advancement of racial justice and reconciliation. Most recently she served as a Resident Director and Multicultural Liaison at Calvin College. There she was able to work with and learn from millennials for three years as they navigated college life. Austin misses living in Chicago, IL but is making Grand Rapids home. She is married to her best friend, Tommie, and adores her infant son and little puppy.

RELEVANT LINKS

Don't hesitate and get Austin's book I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness right now, you won't regret it!

Follow Austin on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (her favorite)

Also, check out Austin's blog.

From Our Conversation w/ Author Austin Channing Brown

• James Baldwin (American novelist and social critic)
• Audre Lorde (American writer, feminist, womanist, librarian, and civil rights activist)
• James H. Cone (American theologian)
• Cornel West (American philosopher, political activist, social critic, author, and public intellectual)
• Ta-Nehisi Paul Coates (American author, journalist, comic book writer, and educator)
• Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Paul Coates (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Lecrae (American Christian hip hop recording artist, songwriter, record producer, and actor)
• Sister Outsider by Audre Lorde (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• John Coltrane (American jazz saxophonist and composer)
• Michael Jackson (American singer, songwriter, and dancer)
• Jen Hatmaker (American Christian author, speaker, blogger, and television presenter)

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IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

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Evangelicals meet to discuss their political base and its connection to Trump, forming two cohorts with markedly different ideas about how to respond, and Jeff helps Allen develop a more nuanced understanding of cult-like culture.

Evangelical Summit on Trump (01:04)

The Culture of a Cult (19:52)

Judging a Book by It's Cover (44:12)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on the Evangelical Summit on Trump

• At a Private Meeting in Illinois, a Group of Evangelicals Tried to Save Their Movement from Trumpism (Article that prompted our first conversation segment)
• Leaving Evangelicalism – BONUS Episode – 001.5 (Irenicast Bonus Episode where Mona and Allen give a comprehensive history of Evangelicalism's place in Christendom)
• California Proposition 8 (A 2008 Proposition against same sex marriage)
• Firing the House chaplain politicized one of the last apolitical parts of Congress (Article)

From Our Conversation on the Culture of Cults

• Wild Wild Country (2018 Netflix Docuseries)
• A Running List of the Women Allison Mack Attempted to Recruit to Nxivm (Article about former Smallville Actress involved in recruiting women to an alleged sex trafficking cult)
• The Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin (Book - AMazon Affiliate Link)
• Larson's New Book of Cults by Bob Larson (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Case for Christ by Lee Strobel (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Exorcist Bob Larson confronts demons of Scientology and Orion! (YouTube Video)... pretty disturbing
• Bill Cosby's Special BBQ Sauce (YouTube Video)... also disturbing now
• Create-a-cult episode
• Five Proven Keys to Improve Your Well-Being (Psychology Today Article)
• 5,000 Pastors Rally to Defend Housing Tax Break Ruled Unconstitutional (Article)
• North Carolina pastor says swanky $1.7 million mansion is a 'gift from God' (Article)

From Our Judging a Book by It's Cover Segment (This segment has also appeared on episodes #007, #020, #074 and #103)

• Largest collection of books autographed
• The Three-Martini Playdate: A Practical Guide to Happy Parenting by Christie Mellor (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Relaxed Rabbit: Massage for Your Pet Bunny by Chandra Beal (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Do Penguins Have Knees? by David Feldman (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Sidepiece Handbook by toniwo (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

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You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

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They say "that's what friends are for," but who are they and what is it? Finding and maintaining friendships seems like frustrating business for many of us: Jeff and Allen included. This episode asks whether it's better to have a small group of close friends or a large group of ones further away, the possible limitations of our social brains, and more, before capping off with another "Top Three" segment about iconic duos.

Conversation on What Friends are For (01:02)

Top 3 Duos Segment (40:02)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on What Friends Are For

• The Facebook post that inspired it all (Irenicast Facebook)
• The Purpose of Friendship (YouTube Video Allen mentions several times throughout our conversation from the School of Life channel)
• How I Met Your Mother (2005-2014 TV Show)
• Brigid of Kildare (Celtic saint Allen mentions who introduces the idea of soul friend, or anam cara)
• When Is It Good to Have a Few Close Friends? (Psychology Today article)
• Heaven and Hell – Get the Hell Outta Here – 018 (Irenicast Episode where we discuss our thoughts on hell)
• Dunbar's number (Theory on Relationships)

From Our Top 3 Duos Segment

• Allen's Top 3 Duos:

1. The Boy and the Giving Tree (from the book, The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein - Amazon Affiliate Link)
2. Frodo & Sam (from The Lord of the Rings Trilogy by J.R.R. Tolkien - Amazon Affiliate Link… also the films by Peter Jackson)
3. Turk and JD (from Scrubs)

• Jeff's Top 3 Duos:

1. Shawn and Gus (from Psych)
2. Amy Poehler & Tina Fey
3. Rob Dyrdek and Christopher "Big Black" Boykin (from Rob & Big)
   • Craig & Smokey (from Friday)
   • Cheech and Chong (from various Cheech & Chong films)
   • Batman and Superman
   • Troy & Abed (from Community)
4. Honorable Mentions

• Rudy (1993 film)
• The Goonies (1985 film)
• Sean Astin (Actor)
• Secular vs Sacred – Part 1, Stories – 024 (Irenicast Episode)
• Secular vs Sacred – Part 2, Spaces – 025 (Irenicast Episode)
• Secular vs Sacred – Part 3, Selves – 026 (Irenicast Episode)

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You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff "Social Vampire" Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen "Meme Lord" O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

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Allen believes the church is for cultivating story. So let's talk about that. And in this episode, the hosts answer "Ask Me Anything" questions submitted by listeners, including science and miracles, spiritual formation for children, and revisiting pacifism.

Cultivating Story Conversation (00:55)

AMA Segment (31:02)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Cultivating Story Conversation

• Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (Irenicast Episode)
• Field of Dreams (1989 Film)
• Brian's Song (1971 TV Film)
• The Simpsons (TV Show)

• StoryCorps (Non-Profit Organization)

From Our Irenicast AMA Segment

• A Christian Response to War – Finding A Third Way – 002 (Irenicast Episode)
• Israeli forces kill 16 Palestinians in Gaza border protests: Gaza medics (Article)
• Delonte Gholston Facebook Status
• Center for Prophetic Imagination (Non-Profit Organization)
• Interview with Author Mark Van Steenwyk – 062 (Irenicast Episode)
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer (Theologian)
• The Critical Journey, Stages in the Life of Faith by Janet O. Hagberg (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Matthew Paul Turner
• • When God Made You (Children's Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
  • When God Made Light (Children's Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Marie-Helene Delval
• • Psalms for Young Children (Children's Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
  • Images of God for Young Children (Children's Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Godly Play (Foundation)
• Hume on Miracles - Philosophy Tube (YouTube Video)
• Baruch Spinoza's Physical Theory
• Miracles: The Credibility of the New Testament Accounts by Craig S. Keener (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Halloween and the Supernatural – Paranormal Proclivities – 034 (Irenicast Episode)
• Reconciling Scripture with Science – EVILution – 003 (Irenicast Episode)
• Mike McHargue (Author & Podcaster)
• Finding God in the Waves by Mike McHargue (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

THANK YOU

Thank you to all the listeners that submitted questions for this episode, we are so grateful for your participation in the conversation.

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Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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Is there value in reclaiming repentance? The word itself connotes different things for all of us and, in this episode, Jeff and Allen unpack the stuff it brings up for them. Is it condemnation or invitation? Transformation or challenge? After the conversation, they try to guess who said what on another edition of Famous Christians for 100.

Reclaiming Repentance Conversation (01:03)

Famous Christians for 100 Segment (40:31)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Reclaiming Repentance

• Kirk Cameron (Actor and Christian Personality)
• Connect (2018 Film)
• The Way of the Master
• Romans Road (YouTube Video)
• Mike McHargue aka Science Mike (Podcaster and Writer)
• The Liturgists (Podcast)
• Alcoholics Anonymous (AA)
• The Power of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business by Charles Duhigg (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Sarah Over the Moon (Blog)
• March for Our Lives
• Scrubs (TV Show)
• Florida Gun Bill: What's in It, and What Isn't (Article)
• The House of Mirth by Edith Wharton (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our Famous Christians for 100 Segment (This segment has also appeared on episodes #002, #017 & #066)

• "Negative personal attacks have no place in public life and serve to erode public confidence in our basic institutions of government." - Mike Pence
• "If the church is not victorious over the world, then we will cease to survive. We are called to be salt and light in a world filled with corruption and darkness." - John Hagee
• "Oh, how I would like a poor Church, and for the poor." - Pope Francis
• "I always say that almost any time the word 'racial' is used, it can be replaced by 'racist'." - Broderick Greer
• "When a youngster tries this kind of stiff-necked rebellion… you had better take it out of him, and pain is a marvelous purifier" -James Dobson
• "It is not uncommon to meet pastors' wives who really let themselves go…" - Mark Driscoll

THANK YOU

Thank you to Bob37748 for your 5 star review in Apple Podcasts which says...

It speaks to me!

"I have only recently discovered this long running podcasts and I am only up to episode 10. I love it so far and based on the titles of the "future" podcast I can't wait to hear what they have to say. I am a disillusioned former evangelical wondering what to believe now. I still believe in God and Jesus, but I wonder what does that mean now. This podcast explores those issues."

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our post-evangelical conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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This is the story of Intersections, told by pastors Allen, Casey, Bonnie and Raj -- a diverse group of clergy with their own stories of leaving Evangelical and Fundamentalist communities of faith. Together they've established a group for spiritual conversations between people with similar paths. Jeff and Adam (from Divine Cinema) host the roundtable.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Intersections Roundtable

• Get more information on Intersections at https://www.facebook.com/theintersections/
• You can hear more of Adam on these Irenicast episodes or on every episode of Divine Cinema.
• • Deconstructing Your Faith – Guest Host Adam Loveridge – 020
  • Simply Simplicity – With Returning Guest Host Adam Loveridge – 079
• UCC - United Church of Christ (Denomination of our guests)
• Loomis Basin Congregational United Church of Christ (Rev. Casey Tinnin's Church)
• Parkside Community Church (Boonie's Church)
• Elk Grove Congregational Church (Allen's Church)
• Seventh Day Adventist (Bonnie & Raj's former denomination)
• A Conversation with Jennifer Knapp – Isolation, Creativity & Career 2.0 – 102 (Irenicast Episode)
• Harold Camping (Religious Leader)
• UU - Unitarian Universalists (Denomination)
• The Monk's Cellar (Roseville pub where Intersections meets)
• Plato's Allegory of the Cave
• Trinitarianism (Theological Term)
• The Divine Dance by Richard Rohr (Book - AMazon Affiliate Link)
• RuPaul (Celebrity)
• Process Theology
• The Enneagram
• 13th (2016 Documentary)
• Prisons of Our Own Making – God Have Mercy on the Criminal Justice System – 094 (Irenicast episode where we discuss the documentary, 13th)
• Peace Village
• Community Initiatives for Visiting Immigrants in Confinement (CIVIC)

THANK YOU

A big thank you to the Intersections crew for joining us this week. Check them out at the following links…

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | Co-pastor, Parkside Community Church

Rev. Raj Rambob | Executive Director, Amador Tuolomne Community Action Agency

Rev. Casey Tinnin | Solo Pastor, Loomis Basin Congregational Church

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IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

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Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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Pain, media portrayal, and empathy. Who of us hasn't come across images of suffering? Jeff and Allen discuss the nature of pain, the way presentations of suffering get used, and alternately consumed, and how we might provide spaces for healing in honest and genuine ways. The episode ends in a moment of honesty through admission how their inner "fundies" occasionally slip.

Conversation on Pain, Media Portrayal and Empathy (00:54)

'You Fundie is Showing' Segment (48:49)

RELEVANT LINKS

• Regarding the Pain of Others by Susan Sontag (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link… this book is the inspiration for this conversation on pain, media portrayal and empathy)
• The Body in Pain by Elaine Scarry (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• • "To know pain is to know certainty, to hear about pain is to know doubt." - Allen's quote from The Body in Pain
• God and Aliens – The Universe Doesn't Revolve Around You, Probably – 032 (During the segment of this episode Allen expresses his desire for the superpower of empathy)
• My Moment of Un-Truth - Season 3, Episode 17 (Scrubs Episode)
• The Long History of Discrimination in Pain Medicine (Article)
• The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Getting to the Whole Truth About America's Torture of Suspected Terrorists (Article)
• Coco (2017 Film)
• Ways social media is like fire, both good and bad, and how that metaphor helps us navigate the digital world (Article)
• Braving the Wilderness: The Quest for True Belonging and the Courage to Stand Alone by Brené Brown (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Vicarious Traumatization (VT)

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You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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Of all the out of context verses Revelation has its fair share. One of the most used and abused passages of the New Testament, the "hot or cold" verse means exactly the opposite of what you think it means. Jeff and Allen discuss the virtues of doing good work (read: being useful) despite religious affections, then share the most useful and useless items in their own lives.

Conversation on Out of Context Verses Revelation 3:15-16 (01:37)

Our Usefulness Segment (38:19)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Out of Context Verses Revelation

• Casual Christian by DeGarmo & Key (Contemporary Christian Song)
• Aggelos (Greek word for angel or messenger)
• The Church of Laodicea in the Bible and Archaeology (Article)
• Best of Tobias Fünke (YouTube Video)
• Laodicea (Blog Post)
• Laodicea
• Midrash
• Yvette Flunder (American singer and senior pastor of the City of Refuge United Church of Christ in Oakland)

Previous Irenicast Episodes on the Bible

• The Nature of Biblical Texts – Wholly Scripture, Batman! – 004 (Irenicast Episode)
• Interpreting the Bible Part 1 – Literally Literature – 063 (Irenicast Episode)
• Interpreting the Bible Part 2 – A Scribed Meaning – 064 (Irenicast Episode)
• Interpreting the Bible Part 3 – Collecting Lenses – 065 (Irenicast Episode)
• Out of Context Verses Philippians 4:13 – 103 (Irenicast Episode)

From Our Segment

• Instant Pot (Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Pho (Vietnamese Soup)
• Chef's Steps Sous Vide (YouTube Playlist)
• Serious Eats Sous Vide Recipes
• Anova (Jeff's Sous Vide machine of choice - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Waterpik (Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Periodontal Disease
• #AllensBigAdventure on Instagram
• #AllensBigAdventure on Facebook
• Pourover
• AeroPress (Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Inventor of K-Cups regrets the idea (Article)
• Hannity Fans Destroy Keurig Coffee Makers After Company Pulls Advertising (Article)
• Mud Before Blood (Allen's New Blog)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our post-evangelical conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

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CREDITS

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Mona returns to the booth for a discussion on Christian hegemony and its negative impact on Christianity. There are those that believe the United States is, and should continue to be, a Christian nation. However, what makes a nation Christian? Who decides what form of Christianity becomes the dominant form? Have we really ever been a Christian nation? These are some of the questions Jeff, Mona & Allen explore this week. The episode finishes with the crew indulging in meaningless arguments in a round of Pursuit of the Trivial.

Conversation on Christian Hegemony (01:09)

Pursuit of the Trivial Segment (48:54)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Christian Hegemony

• Hegemony
• JK Rowling mocks defeated Roy Moore: 'God is a black woman' (Article)
• Anabaptism
• Mennonites
• The truth about those 7 words 'banned' at the CDC (article)
• Dominion Theology
• City Council accepts Bethel donation for police unit (article)
• The Seven Mountains
• What Was a Nazi Church Service Like? (article)
• Half Measures (Episode #280 of 99% Invisible)
• Michel Foucault (Philosopher)
• PHILOSOPHY - Michel Foucault (YouTube Video)

From Our Pursuit of the Trivial Segment (This segment also appeared on episode #034)

• Check out Mona's new band Yes Commander
• Past, Present and Future – Irenicast Live – 100 (Irenicast Episode)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the husband to an incredibly strong woman and father of two captivating young ladies. He is currently the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. Also check out Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen received his B.A. in Biblical Studies from The Master's College and an M.A. in Theology and Biblical Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary, making him the illegitimate child of both conservative and moderately progressive evangelicalism. He has worked in church ministry since 2006 and is currently solo-pastoring at his local UCC congregation. When not ministering, Allen throws things to his border collie Sonata and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@AllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our post-evangelical conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

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Listen & Subscribe to Us on iTunes, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

See Us on Instagram

Support Us on Amazon

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com