Irenicast - A Progressive Christian Podcast

Jeff, Allen, Casey and Raj embark on a heart and head heavy journey towards pluralism as guided by Diana Eck's markers of pluralism:

"First, pluralism is not diversity alone, but the energetic engagement with diversity. Diversity can and has meant the creation of religious ghettoes with little traffic between or among them. Today, religious diversity is a given, but pluralism is not a given; it is an achievement. Mere diversity without real encounter and relationship will yield increasing tensions in our societies.

Second, pluralism is not just tolerance, but the active seeking of understanding across lines of difference.Tolerance is a necessary public virtue, but it does not require Christians and Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and ardent secularists to know anything about one another. Tolerance is too thin a foundation for a world of religious difference and proximity. It does nothing to remove our ignorance of one another, and leaves in place the stereotypes, the half-truths, the fears that underlie old patterns of division and violence. In the world in which we live today, our ignorance of one another will be increasingly costly.

Third, pluralism is not relativism, but the encounter of commitments. The new paradigm of pluralism does not require us to leave our identities and our commitments behind, for pluralism is the encounter of commitments. It means holding our deepest differences, even our religious differences, not in isolation, but in relationship to one another.

Fourth, pluralism is based on dialogue. The language of pluralism is that of dialogue and encounter, give and take, criticism and self-criticism. Dialogue means both speaking and listening, and that process reveals both common understandings and real differences. Dialogue does not mean everyone at the "table" will agree with one another. Pluralism involves the commitment to being at the table — with one's commitments."

—Diana L. Eck, 2006, http://pluralism.org/

The co hosts discuss past teachings on the "evils of pluralism," acknowledge the difficulties of being in relationship with people who are different, reveal past hurts and present fears around being in relationship across boundaries, and express hope for a more pluralistic world.

Conversation on Pluralism (00:47)

Appledash Segment (56:24)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Pluralism

• Diana L. Eck (Harvard Scholar)
• Pluralism
• Relativism
• Hobbits
• The Evolution of Satan – Details in the Devil – 086 (Irenicast Episode)
• Dante's Inferno
• PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein (Book – Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Queer as Folk (Television Series)
• The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down: A Hmong Child, Her American Doctors, and the Collision of Two Cultures by Anne Fadiman (Book – Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Our Religions: The Seven World Religions Introduced by Preeminent Scholars from Each Tradition by Arvind Sharma (Book – Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our Segment Appledash (This segment is also on episodes #024 & #081)

• Mogwai
• Gremlins (1984 Film)
• Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018 Film)

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IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | [email protected]

Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast and loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen Marshall O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education. As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure. Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.

Rev. Raj Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal. Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties. Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends.

You can follow Raj on Facebook and at www.christianprocess.blogspot.com

Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host | [email protected]

Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California. He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn't preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology

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How cosmology shapes our theology: as our understanding of our origins and universe shifts, what does that mean for our concepts of ourselves and of God? Jeff, Allen, Raj, and Casey talk all things science and literature, touching on biological evolution, the evolution of galaxies, ancient cosmologies, fundamental shifts like the Copernican revolution and the cosmological principle, overcoming misconceptions in physics, and how all of these inform theology.

Conversation on How Cosmology Shapes Our Theology (00:53)

Sound Charades Segment (55:23)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on How Cosmology Shapes Our Theology

• Biblical Cosmology (wiki)
• Biblical Inerrancy (wiki)
• Supergirl (CW Television Show)
• Stars Beneath Us: Finding God in the Evolving Cosmos by Paul Wallace (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Copernican Revolution (wiki)
• 1929: Edwin Hubble Discovers the Universe is Expanding
• 1995: Robert Williams Peers into Deep Space
• Ken Ham (Christian Fundamentalist & Young Earth Creationist)
• Process Theology
• Men in Black (1997 Film)
• Gravitational Lens (wiki)
• Switchfoot (American Rock Band)
• Gonads: The Primordial Journey (Radiolab Podcast Episode)

From Our Segment Sound Charades Segment (Sound Charades is also played on episodes #047, #064, #124)

• Word Generator

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | [email protected]

Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast and loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen Marshall O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education. As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure. Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.

Rev. Raj Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal. Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties. Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends.

You can follow Raj on Facebook and at www.christianprocess.blogspot.com

Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host | [email protected]

Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California. He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn't preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor.

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While some may play the Alphabet Game on a road trip, Casey and Bonnie get into a deep conversation on two tried and true Christian approaches - Apologist or Evangelist.

Jeff and Raj are brought into Casey's and Bonnie's road trip question: Are you an apologist or an evangelist? In other words, are you more interested in defending Christianity (or as Casey says, put lipstick on a pig) or in spreading the good news of unconditional love? Jeff wonders if the question poses a false dichotomy, maybe it's possible to be both an apologist and an evangelist depending on the issue at hand.

For those of us who still find life in the way of Jesus after deconstructing our evangelical fundamentalist faith, Jeff, Casey, Raj and Bonnie invite us into deeper deconstruction -- like, deconstructing the motivation behind our decision to remain Christian, albeit progressive Christian. Using the story of an unconventional baptism in Casey's hot tub, the mikvah scene from Netflix's Orange is the New Black and a cry to abolish church organs, the Irenicast crew wonders about Christianity's ability to overcome historical limitations and truly make all things new.

After all that talk about evangelism -- literally, the good message. In our segment, Jeff, Raj, Casey and Bonnie reveal the Top 3 pre-deconstruction Christian songs that they still jam to when no one is looking. 'Cause it's embarrassing and the message isn't always good.

Conversation on Apologist or Evangelist (01:01)

Top 3 Pre-Deconstruction Christian Songs Segment (48:50)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Apologist or Evangelist

• Nadia Bolz-Weber (American Public Theologian)
• Richard Rohr (American author, spiritual writer and Franciscan friar)
• Irenicast Roundtable – The Art of Oversharing – 135 (Irenicast Episode)
• Brené Brown (American research professor)
• Mikveh
• Orange is the New Black (HBO TV Series)
• Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE)
• Rudolph Bultmann (German Theologian and Professor of New Testament)
• Rev. Wil Gafney, Ph.D.
• Martin Luther (German professor of theology, composer, priest, monk, and a seminal figure in the Protestant Reformation)
• John Calvin (a French theologian, pastor and reformer in Geneva during the Protestant Reformation)
• Hinduism
• Rama (major deity of Hinduism)
• Shiva (major deity of Hinduism)
• Durga (major deity of Hinduism)

From Our Top 3 Pre-Deconstruction Christian Songs Segment

• Blessed Be Your Name by Matt Redman
• Tree 63 (Contemporary Christian Music Band)
• DC10 by Audio Adrenaline
• I've Been Redeemed
• Breakfast by Newsboys
• God of Wonders by Third Day
• Jennifer Knapp (Singer/Song Writer)
• Jesus Is Just Alright by DC Talk
• I Can Only Imagine by Mercy Me
• I Can Only Imagine (2018 Film)
• Everywhere by Tim McGraw
• Red Hot Chili Peppers (American Rock Band)
• Running with the Devil by Van Halen
• Believe by Third Day
• Dare You To Move by Switchfoot
• INXS (Australian Rock Band)
• The O.C. Supertones (American Christian Ska Band)
• Relient K (American Christian Rock Band)
• Higher by Creed
• Alter Bridge (American Rock Band)
• Myles Kennedy (Rock Singer)
• Slash (Guitarist)
• Nickleback (American Rock Band)
• The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power
• Shackles (Praise You) by Mary Mary
• Destiny's Child (American R&B Trio)
• Bumps in a Bump by MC Hammer
• Gospel Gangstaz (American Christian Rap Group)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | [email protected]

Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast and loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen Marshall O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education. As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure. Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.

Rev. Raj Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal. Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties. Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends.

You can follow Raj on Facebook and at www.christianprocess.blogspot.com

Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host | [email protected]

Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California. He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn't preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology

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Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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Despite what many of us from fundamentalist backgrounds have been told, there is a diverse array of Christian theologies. Liberation, Queer, Womanist and Process theology are some of the lenses we will be looking through on this week's episode.

This week Raj, Bonnie and Casey share their learnings and leanings on the the theologies of Liberation, Queer, Womanist and Process in ways that are moving, inspiring, troubling and down right blasphemous. The co-hosts explore the power and possibility of each theology and connect dots and highlight intersectionality all over the place.

Liberation theology posits that God is "on the side of the oppressed." The co-hosts unpack the economic and social ramifications of an embrace of liberation theology. The team also wonders if "total liberation" is possible and what might be left to do if/when liberation is achieved.

Queer theology invites us to look at the Bible and God with a lense that has few, if any, limitations of traditional gender roles, sexual standards, anything - an opportunity to see things anew.

Womanist theology says "have a seat at the table" and talk about the deep, dark things and the high and bright things and you will be heard. The best theology is often created at the kitchen table by those who have never been to seminary.

Process theology stems from the work of Alfred North Whitehead's work "Process and Reality." The nature of God is in radical relationship WITH all of creation not creation a subject of God.

In the segment Raj, Bonnie and Casey reveal their "least liked" Christian phrases. Triggers all around! Beware some will cause feelings of nausea, irritability and down-right anger.

Conversation on Christian Theologies (00:35)

Bottom 3 Segment (49:15)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Christian Theologies

• Liberation Theology (Wiki)
• Gustavo Gutiérrez (Liberation Theologian - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Saul Alinsky (American community organizer and writer)
• Year of Jubilee
• Annie Lamott (Progressive political activist, public speaker, and writing teacher - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• James Cone (American theologian - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Conversation on Race – A Kick in the Walls – 134 (Irenicast Episode)
• Queer Theology (Wiki)
• The Queerness of Cana (Queerly Faithful blog post by Casey)
• Womanist Theology (Wiki)
• Alice Walker (American novelist, short story writer, poet, and activist - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Katie G Cannon (American Christian theologian and ethicist associated with womanist theology and black theology)
• The Oxford Handbook of African American Theology by Katie G. Cannon (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Jacquelyn Grant (African-American professor, theologian, author, and one of the founding developers of womanist theology)
• White Women's Christ and Black Women's Jesus: Feminist Christology and Womanist Response by Jacquelyn Grant (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Delores S. Williams (Theologian - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Dr. Valerie Miles-Tribble (Associate Professor of Ministerial Leadership & Practical Theology)
• The Cosmic Christ
• Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (Wiki)
• Process and Reality by Alfred North Whitehead (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Catherine Keller (Theologian - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Monica Coleman (Contemporary theologian associated with process theology - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Christina Hutchens
• Cornel West (American philosopher, political activist, social critic, author, and public intellectual - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Surprised by Joy by C. S. Lewis (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• American Baptist Seminary of the West

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | [email protected]

Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast and loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen Marshall O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education. As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure. Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.

Rev. Raj Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal. Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties. Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends.

You can follow Raj on Facebook and at www.christianprocess.blogspot.com

Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host | [email protected]

Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California. He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn't preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

Like Us on Facebook

Listen & Subscribe to Us on iTunes, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Irenicast Roundtable y'all!

There are certain legends that speak of a round table where valiant heroes, thought leaders and purveyors of magic gathered to rid the world of injustice. Well f**k those guys. This is the round table worthy to be called a showcase of the immortals. Where else can you encounter a high caliber cast of characters that could be taken straight out of a Tolkien novel?

There is Jeff, the court jester who is skilled in avoiding the fiery darts of vulnerability with humor. Allen, a powerful empath and over-sharer dubbed by many as the occasional vegan. The esteemed man of the cloth who's compassion and love for people, and slow jams, has garnered him the simple, yet powerful, tile of Pastor Casey. There is also the ever evolving and highly skilled social justice warrior, Bonnie. And finally, the sage who's wisdom regarding choice of mate and love of bacon brings stability to his clan, Raj.

Listen this week as this cast of legends engages in the age old youth group practice of laughing and being vulnerable while creating a divine atmosphere where all are welcome. Where origin stories are shared and secrets revealed. A journey that takes you effortlessly from laughter to tears.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Irenicast Roundtable

• Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (First Irenicast episode with all hosts in the same room)
• BE THOU MY VISION -- My Favorite Irish Hymn! :) (Allen's Favorite Hymn)
• Keith Sweat Featuring Athena Cage - Nobody (Video) (Casey's Jam)
• Boyz II Men (R&B vocal group)
• Heath Ledger (American Actor)
• 10 Things I Hate About You (1999 Film)
• The Dark Knight (2008 Film)
• A Knight's Tale (2001 Film)
• Channing Tatum (American Actor)
• Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson (American Actor & Producer)
• Cristiano Ronaldo (Portuguese Professional Footballer)
• What is the Enneagram?
• Radical Orthodoxy: A New Theology by John Milbank (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Road to Edmond (2018 Documentary Film)
• 40 Days of FriChik fad sweeps Adventism
• All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Isley Brothers (American musical group)
• Tobias Fünke (Arrested Development Character)
• U2 (Irish rock band)
• Clinical Pastoral Education (CPE)
• Halloween and Heritage – Have Your Soul Cake and Eat it Too – 128 (Irenicast episode with Childhood Fears segment)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | [email protected]

Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast and loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen Marshall O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education. As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure. Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.

Raj Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal. Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties. Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends.

You can follow Raj on Facebook

Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host | [email protected]

Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California. He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn't preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology

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Our conversation on race takes an honest look at the team's understanding of race as a complex construct that has shaped every aspect of our identities, our relationships and our lives.

Raj suggests the topic in honor of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy. Dr. King called us into uncomfortable spaces to do challenging work in the areas of economic justice, anti militarism, prison reform and racial equity.

Additionally Raj shares the observation that "white people" rarely have the opportunity to talk openly about race. The pursuit of racial justice requires engaged participants from all sectors of the racial spectrum to be involved, courageous and vulnerable. The team agrees to step into the uncomfortable space together.

Co-hosts Jeff, Allen, Bonnie and Casey respond to Raj's questions on the definition of race, on racial identity, racial understanding, the linkage between faith formation and racial formation and what role each one has to play in the struggle for racial justice.

Then the team gets silly in a new segment "Over/Under." Avocado Toast, Jerry Seinfeld, Titanic, Grunge. Listen and you'll understand.

Conversation on Race (01:03)

Over/Under Segment (53:12)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Race

• Eugenics
• A Black Theology of Liberation by James H. Cone (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• 23AndMe (DNA Genetic Testing & Analysis)
• Insecure (HBO TV Show)
• Get Out (2017 Film)
• Joe Rogan Rejects Concept of White Privilege (YouTube Video)
• 1936 Summer Olympics (Wiki)
• Affirmative Action (Wiki)
• Castle Rock (Hulu TV Show)
• Marc Bernardin (Writer, Podcast Host)
• Kevin Smith (Writer/Director)
• Fatman Beyond (Podcast)
• Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018 Film)
• Why James Bond Should Be Black But Batman Should Stay White (Article)
• Author Austin Channing Brown – I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness – 118 (Irenicast Episode)
• Trayvon Martin (Wiki)
• NT Wright (Theologian)
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer (Theologian)
• Tamil (Wiki)
• Telugu (Wiki)
• Liberation Theology
• The Poisonwood Bible: A Novel by Barbara Kingsolver (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander

From Our Over/Under Segment

• Pilgrimage - Meaningful Movement - 078 (Irenicast episode with Top 3 Veggies Segment)
• Santa Maria Seasoning
• Jerry Seinfeld (Comedian)
• Seinfeld (TV Show)
• Larry David (Actor/Writer)
• Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO TV Show)
• Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee (Netflix Show)
• Titanic (1997 Film)
• Badmotorfinger (Soundgarden Album)
• Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit in major key

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IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | [email protected]

Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen Marshall O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education. As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure. Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.

Raj Rambob | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal. Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties. Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends.

You can follow Raj on Facebook

Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host| [email protected]

Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California. He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn't preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology

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Linda Kay Klein author of PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free joins us this week. Sexuality, sexual purity as Christian faithfulness, girls, boys, women, men, shame, guilt, American Evangelicalism, political opportunism, the Virgin Mary, healing, hope and community – these are just a few of the topics Linda discusses with Irenicast co-host, Bonnie Rambob.

The conversation begins with Linda's relay of her own personal experiences with purity culture during her adolescence. As Linda grew, left the church and entered the secular world, she likens her struggle in the wake of purity indoctrination to include almost PTSD-like symptoms. Though impacted women (and men) often find it hard to talk about their shame regarding sexuality, Linda heard "me too" whispers along the way coming from others with whom Linda shares a similar background. Hence, her life-changing (according to Bonnie) well-researched book.

Linda unpacks a little bit about the history of sexual repression within American Christianity and its devastating generational impact. In the 90s, purity culture became purity industry. She and Bonnie briefly consider the influential book, I Kissed Dating Goodbye written by a young Joshua Harris. Linda and Bonnie discuss the deep spiritual work of repentance, listening, talking and healing, all of which is part of breaking free from the oppression of purity culture.

Linda shares her own spiritual journey as a Christian though not a church member. In a rich detour from the central topic, Linda and Bonnie explore the value of spiritual community in relation to going it alone or belonging to religious institutions such as church.

The conversation ends with an important question – what now? How do we move forward? Linda shares her insights into the healing power of values- based, lifespan sexuality education curricula such as OWL (Our Whole Lives) developed in collaboration between Unitarian Universalists, United Church of Christ and Planned Parenting. Bonnie and Linda reflect on biblical images of women's sexuality, for example the Virgin Mary. Together they wonder about whether there is potential for reframing these images in liberative ways. In addition, Linda shares her emerging and ground-breaking work as founder of Break Free Together.

If, as part of your faith life, you've ever experienced shame just because you are a sexual being, you might be a survivor of purity culture – and, this episode is for you.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation with Linda Kay Klein Author of PURE

• PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Joshua Harris (American Pastor and Author)
• Evangelical Writer Kisses An Old Idea Goodbye (Article on Joshua Harris' recently apology for I Kissed Dating Goodbye)
• Faith, Hope, Chastity : Thousands of teen-agers are embracing a new Christian abstinence program. Why? Many long for moral certainties. Also, "Sex is now a matter of life and death." (1994 LA Times Article)
• Our Whole Lives aka OWL (comprehensive sexuality curriculum)
• Mary's Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55 CEB)
• Break Free Together

THANK YOU

A big thank you to Linda Kay Klein for talking with us this week!

Linda Kay Klein author of PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free, is also a storyteller and innovator. Linda is also founder of Break Free Together, an organization committed to helping people release sexual shame and claim their whole selves.

Linda has been featured on NPR, Elle.com, GoodHousekeeping.com, PopSugar, Refinery29, New York Magazine's The Cut, the New York Post, Fox News Online, Mother Jones, and several other media outlets. Click here for a sampling of these media pieces.

To keep up on Linda's continuing work follow her on Twitter @LindaKayKlein or check out her website LindaKayKlein.com

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | [email protected]

Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen Marshall O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast calledIntersections.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host

Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education. As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure. Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.

Raj Rambob | co-host

Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal. Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties. Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends.

You can follow Raj on Facebook

Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host

Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California. He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn't preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology

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'Tis the episode before 2019 and all through the show, we are politicizing Christmas and hoping to grow. Our new hosts are ready, and chosen with care. As we continue to cultivate a place for our souls to be laid bare. So, gather in and listen to our chatter, as we serve up something fun and challenging on a digital platter. Let us call out together without haste, Merry Christmas to all and lay the establishment to waste.

Irenicast is expanding its borders this week and welcoming Bonnie & Raj Rambob and Casey Tinnin as official co-hosts of Irenicast. Listen and hear how this came together and where Irenicast is headed with this new chorus of voices.

And that is not all for this super-sized holiday episode either. All 5 hosts have a short but meaningful discussion about whether politicizing Christmas is a needless distraction or a true response to the gospel. With everything happening in our world today it can seem that there are more parallels to the Christmas story then there has ever been.

The episode finishes as everyone gathers around the proverbial fire and shares their favorite Christmas and holiday traditions. It is fitting that this official roll out of a new direction for Irenicast happens as we celebrate the birth of a movement in the person of Jesus Christ.

The Introduction of Our New Co-Hosts (00:35)

Conversation on Politicizing Christmas (31:58)

Holiday Traditions Segment (56:30)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Special Announcement

• Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (First episode featuring our now permanent Irenicast co-hosts)
• Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free by Linda Kay Klein (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our Conversation on Politicizing Christmas

• Twitter Users Mock Hannity's Panicky New 'War On Christmas' Rant (Article)
• Parkside Community Church (Bonnie's Church)
• How a local church is using a nativity scene to demand reunification of migrant families (News Coverage of Parkside's Nativity Scene)
• Sacramento church protests immigration policies with caged nativity scene (More News Coverage of Parkside's Nativity Scene)
• 7-year-old migrant girl taken into Border Patrol custody dies of dehydration, exhaustion (Article)
• Ammon Bundy breaks with Trump on anti-migrant rhetoric: 'It's all fear-based' (Article)
• Groups want Placer County to join sanctuary state opposition (Article)
• The Beginning of the Gospel, Mark 1:1 (An article highlighting Mark's parallel with the Priene Calendar Inscription)
• "No one puts their children in a boat unless the water is safer than the land"
• Trump signals US won't punish Saudi crown prince over Khashoggi killing (article)
• Prominent evangelical leader on Khashoggi crisis: let's not risk "$100 billion worth of arms sales" (Article)
• A caravan of phony claims from the Trump administration (Article)
• Telling Us to Go Shopping (Article on Bush's comments after 9/11)

From Our Holiday Traditions Segment

• Die Hard (1988 Film)
• Elf (2003 Film)
• Jingle All the Way (1996 Film)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | producer & co-host | [email protected]

Jeff is co-founder of Irenicast. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen Marshall O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast calledIntersections.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob | co-host

Bonnie is the co-pastor at Parkside Community Church. Bonnie has also served the Congregational Church of San Mateo as Transitional Minister for Intergenerational Education. As a graduate of Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, she offers expertise in multi-faith leadership, the spirituality of children, process theology and church organizational structure. Drawing from her fundamentalist Christian background, she co-leads several outreach ministries to those spiritual travelers who are migrating out of fundamentalist Christianity.

Raj Rambob | co-host

Rajeev Rambob (Raj) is spouse, of 26 years, to Bonnie Rambob. Both Bonnie and Raj are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ. They have two adult children who are intelligent, creative, hilarious and kind. Raj has been a K-12 educator and principal. Raj transitioned from K-12 leadership to executive leadership in the nonprofit sector. Raj's non-profit experience is largely in homelessness. Currently Raj is Executive Director of Amador Tuolumne Community Action Agency (ATCAA). ATCAA is a multi-service, anti-poverty, agency that serves two counties. Raj loves thoughtful and irreverent conversation over food and drink with family and trusted friends.

You can follow Raj on Facebook

Pastor Casey Tinnin | co-host

Casey is the pastor of Loomis Basin Congregational Church in Loomis California. He is one of the co-creators of Intersections which is a support group that meets once a month to deconstruct their evangelical past. Casey also created a non-religious LGBT teen group, The Landing Spot, that meets once a month. When Casey isn't preaching, protesting, or providing pastoral care he enjoys spending his time reading comic books, talking about theology, politics and sex, baking, cooking, kayaking and spending time with his partner Jose of six years and walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or Gutter Theology

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Pastor Casey Tinnin, who is a gay pastor shares of his journey out of fundamentalism, coming out, and his process of being ordained in the United Church of Christ. Jeff and Pastor Casey have a lively discussion about the influence that fundamentalism and conservatism played in Casey's coming out process.

Pastor Casey talks at length about his journey, and how his faith was formed in the wake of so many Christians telling him he would never be ordained. He also speaks about growing up in evangelical purity culture and "dating Jesus" all four years of high school. He even refers to Jesus as "his beard."

The conversation is filled with thoughts around what remaining closeted does to a person, and the impact it has on a person's life. The conversation between Jeff and Casey moves to the importance of authenticity and truth telling, and how people can be allies to those who are coming out.

This week's episode closes out with a fun round of Famous Christians for 100. Each host takes a shot at guessing who is behind some pretty amazing and terrifying quotes.

Conversation on Being a Gay Pastor (01:24)

Famous Christians for 100 Segment (41:30)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Being a Gay Pastor

• International House of Prayer (Organization)
• The Revolutionary War Hero Who Was Openly Gay
• Mark Driscoll (Evangelical Leader)
• Yvette Flunder (an American singer and senior pastor of the City of Refuge United Church of Christ in Oakland, California and Presiding Bishop of The Fellowship of Affirming Ministries)
• Come Sunday - 015 (Divine Cinema Episode)
• United Church of Christ - UCC (Denomination)
• Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (Irenicast Episode)

From Our Famous Christians for 100 Segment

• Jessica Simpson and her fish or chicken tuna (YouTube Video)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California and co-founder of Irenicast. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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In confronting masculinity, Jeff, Allen, and Raj discuss building a better social construction for themselves, particularly by tackling toxic masculinity and male supremacy. They examine their formations as cisgender-straight-males, reveal personal challenges, challenge each other and wonder what could be.

Patriarchy is examined in relationship to male supremacy and toxic masculinity. A definition of toxic masculinity offered in the show is from the good men project. Women After All: Sex, Evolution, and the End of Male Supremacy by Melvin Konner M.D is cited as a resource.

The reduction of testosterone in men is mentioned and an acknowledgement that those hurt by male supremacy and toxic masculinity are missing voices in the Confronting Masculinity - Building a Better Social Construction.

Conversation on Confronting Masculinity (02:52)

Pursuit of the Trivial Segment (51:17)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Confronting Masculinity

• Episode 151 - Incels and Masculinity in the 21st Century (Ask Science Mike Podcast Episode)
• Gender and Emotion Expression: A Developmental Contextual Perspective (Article that discusses some of what Allen mentions about boys typically being encouraged to deny their feelings earlier in development than girls)
• The Good Men Project
• Incel (Wikipedia Article)
• Model of masculinity under fascist Italy (Wikipedia Article)
• Are Young Males Disengaging from Society? – The Case of the the Incredible Disappearing Men – 084 (Irenicast Episode)
• The Mystery of Declining Testosterone (Article)
• Testosterone Rex: Myths of Sex, Science, and Society by Cordelia Fine (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Women After All: Sex, Evolution, and the End of Male Supremacy by Melvin Konner M.D. (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to the Women of the Torah and the Throne by Wilda C. Gafney (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Jeff Manildi | co-host and producer | [email protected]

Jeff is the Director of Discipleship at a United Methodist church on the central coast of California and co-founder of Irenicast. In addition to getting his B.A. in Theology, he also received his ordination through the prestigious online organization of The Universal Life Church whose alumni include the likes of Conan O'Brien and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Jeff loves all things that tell a story: people, movies, tv, music, comics, etc.

You can follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Allen O'Brien | co-host | [email protected]

Allen is the pastor of a UCC church in Northern California, resident chaplain at an area hospital, and co-founder of Irenicast. He believes in the importance of education, peace, and ecology and writes for multiple platforms.

You can follow Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, & Good Reads. Also if you are in the Sacramento, CA area check out Allen's brick and mortar version of this podcast called Intersections.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com