Irenicast - A Progressive Christian Podcast

We're survivors of high control religious environments? What? Irenicast co-hosts offer the (sometimes) uncomfortable awareness that if you were in an evangelical/fundamentalist community, much of your life, inside and outside of church, was probably highly controlled.

The conversation includes the harmful legacy of growing up and living within a highly controlled religious environment. For example, strong leadership equals controlling people; vulnerability is exploited and access to "worldly" information is heavily managed.

Each co-host shares their own experiences of how being part of a high control religious environment impacted them developmentally and psychically. Using recent research as inspiration, co-hosts tell how they are healing from the realities of being both victims and participants in controlling religious communities.

The episode ends with a rousing round of Appledash. Let's just say -- for people leaving evangelical/fundamentalist faith, delayed adolescence is real.

Conversation on High Control Religious Environments (01:05)

Appledash Segment (52:17)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on High Control Religious Environments

• Cracking the Cult Code for Therapists: What Every Cult Victim Wants Their Therapist to Know by Bonnie Zieman (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link - This is the book Allen is primarily referencing in this episode)
• Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt (Netflix Show)
• Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• How We Fight for Our Lives: A Memoir by Saeed Jones (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Educated: A Memoir by Tara Westover (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Learned Helplessness (Psychological Term)
• Epic of Gilgamesh (Creation Myth)
• The Five Stages of the Soul: Charting the Spiritual Passages by Harry R. Moody and David Carroll (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Paul Rudd Hot Ones Meme

From Our Appledash Segment (Appledash has also been played on episodes #024 and #081)

• Apples 2 Apples (Board Game - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Balderdash (Board Game - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Bumfuzzle
• Sackbut
• One of Allen's Hurdy Gurdy Videos
• Otiose

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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Jeff & Casey sit down for a conversation with Matthias Roberts, author of the new book Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms. Before discussion the book, Matthias talks a little bit about his podcast Queerology and his trademark opening question: How do you identify and how would you say your faith has informed that identity?

Focus soon turns toward his new book. Matthias shares how the book came together and what motivated him to write it. He shares how Beyond Shame encourages each of us to determine our own definition of healthy sex, while avoiding the ditches of boundaryless sex positivity on the one hand and strict moralistic boundaries on the other. We are encouraged to define our sexual values on our own terms, overcome our shame, and start having great, healthy sex.

The conversation finishes on a lighter note as Matthias shares with us some of the music that inspired him throughout his journey. Including a couple amazingly titled playlists: Narcissism: A Love Story & Songs of Self Compassion. Make sure to get Matthias' book if you haven't already.

Conversation with Matthias Roberts, Author of Beyond Shame (00:01:41)

Irenicast 2020 Announcements (01:06:26)

MORE ON MATTHIAS ROBERTS

Matthias Roberts is author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms (Fortress, 2020) and host of Queerology: A Podcast on Belief and Being which was named as one of the best LGBTQ+ podcasts of 2019 by O: The Oprah Magazine. He holds two master's degrees, one in theology and culture and one in counseling psychology from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. In his psychotherapy practice, he specializes in helping LGBTQ+ teens and adults live confident and fulfilling lives. Matthias writes and speaks nationwide about the intersections between gender, sexuality, mental health, and theology.

Make sure to order Matthais' book Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms. To comes out today, January 7th 2020. Also follow Matthias' work by visiting his website, listening to his podcast, Queerology and following him on Twitter, Instagram & Facebook

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation with Matthias Roberts, Author of Beyond Shame

• Matthais Roberts (Podcaster, Author, Speaker)
• Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms by Matthais Roberts (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Queerology Podcast
• Rev. Elizabeth M. Edman
• Rev. Elizabeth Edman on the Inherent Queerness of Christianity (Queerology Episode)
• Queer Virtue: What LGBTQ People Know About Life and Love and How It Can Revitalize Christianity by Rev Elizabeth M. Edman (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Brené Brown (Research Professor, Public Speaker)
• Coping Mechanisms
• Defense Mechanisms
• Stan Mitchell (Progressive Christian Pastor)
• Matthias' Spotify Playlists
• • Narcissism: A Love Story
  • Songs of Self Compassion

ENNEAGRAM COURSE

If you are interested in being a part of Casey's upcoming course, Growing with the Enneagram please email us at [email protected]. The course will be held in the Sacramento, CA area and will last for 6 weeks starting on Sunday, February 2nd and ending on Sunday, March 8th from 6pm-8pm. The cost for the course is $120.

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

It's a Process Theology Christmas, because that's our thing now. In this conversation Bonnie leads the team in a super-sized discussion on all things Christmas. Through a process theology lens of course.

It begins with a discussion around an old Christmas classic, O Holy Night. Specifically the line, "and the soul felt its worth." Where does our worth come from? God? Experience? Process theology may surprise you with its view on the value of life. It certainly did for one of our co-hosts.

And from the big questions of existence itself, the conversation moves into the very basis of human existence: childbirth. The hosts challenge the lack of emphasis on Mary in the Christmas narrative. Not just as a figure, but as an essential element to the theological idea of "incarnation". Is process theology ruining our Christmas traditions and orthodoxy or is it actually expanding it?

And what conversation on Christmas is complete without a solid critique of the capitalistic forces that make us think less of the glorious gift of cookies? Process theology has plenty to say about how extreme excess can distort our connections with one another and the earth.

Finally, this Christmas episode closes out with a new segment called, I Will You. Each host shares what they would leave each other in their wills in case of their tragic demise. Some gifts are heartfelt, and others are drenched in cold-hearted sarcasm. Listen to find out who gives with the spirit of St. Nick and who is the grinch that steals sincerity.

Conversation on a Process Theology Christmas (00:01:30)

'I Will You' Segment (01:03:07)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on a Process Theology Christmas

• O Holy Night
• Krampus
• How happiness is challenging GDP as the measure of a country's health
• Is the World Getting Better or Worse? – A Feisty Discussion on the Myth of Progress – 044

From Our Segment, 'I Will You'

• Women in Church Leadership – Home Is Where The Pulpit Is – 156 (The "show ass" reference is from the closing moments of our conversation in this episode)
• Good Eats

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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To begin, each of the co-hosts speaks to their experiences of women in church leadership. You might be surprised. Then questions surface like -- should we be gender-izing leadership? Aren't we over the gender binary thing? Bonnie shares her own difficult journey toward claiming pastor-hood.

This episode holds an open-hearted conversation in which mistakes are made and forgiven. You'll hear men own up to male privilege and brainstorm ways to detox masculinity. You'll also hear Allen (and the other co-hosts, but especially Allen) get excited about the bible as the conversation turns to Christianity's potential for disrupting Patriarchy's stronghold on societal systems. A busted-up Patriarchy is all we really want for Christmas.

In case you still have gifts to buy, the episode ends with a game of Craigslist Price is Right. The lovely items are listed in the show notes; though you'll probably get more "Ahhh, thanks. I love it." from Irenicast merch.

Conversation on (00:49)

Segment (59:33)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Women in Church Leadership

• Scholar uncovers the Mary Magdalene whom early Christian scribes tried to blot out (article)
• Restored Rome catacomb frescoes add to debate on women priests
• John MacArthur Told Beth Moore to 'Go Home' for Having the Audacity to Preach the Gospel and Help People (article)

From Our Craigslist Price Is Right Segment

• Bonnie - Liberty Costume
• Rajeev - Woody the Woodpecker
• Allen - Barn Door
• Jeff - Magical Horse
• Casey - Antique Fire Truck

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In this episode two innovative spiritual leaders and thinkers, Brian McLaren and Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon, have an intimate conversation beginning with the story of their conservative Christian upbringings, ending with their visions of the future of American Christianity. Co-hosts, Rajeev Rambob and Bonnie Rambob, ask for insights on faith, doubt, belief, Christian identity and secular Christianity. Have you ever heard of secular Christianity? Well, it's a thing. Listen to learn more about these fascinating and inspiring visionaries and their evolving faith.

Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for "a new kind of Christianity" – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is a faculty member of The Living School, which is part of the Center for Action and Contemplation, and he co-leads the Common Good Messaging Team, which is part of Vote Common Good. He is also an Auburn Senior Fellow and a leader in the Convergence Network, through which he has developed an innovative training/mentoring program for pastors, church planters, and lay leaders called Convergence Leadership Project. He works closely with the Wild Goose Festival, the Fair Food Program's Faith Working Group, and Progressive Christianity. His most recent joint project is an illustrated children's book (for all ages) called Cory and the Seventh Story and his upcoming writing projects include The Galapagos Islands: A Spiritual Journey (Fall 2019) Faith After Doubt (Spring 2021), and Do I Stay Christian? (Spring 2022).

Penny Nixon has been the Senior Minister of the Congregational Church of San Mateo (CCSM), United Church of Christ, since 2007. CCSM is a vibrant, progressive spiritual community of over 600 members and in 2017 received the MLK award from the county of San Mateo. A community leader and political activist, she has received numerous awards and recognitions for her work in both San Francisco and San Mateo, the most recent being named 2019 Woman of the Year for Assembly District 22. She also is Director of the SMC Solidarity Cohort, which is a group of 30 interfaith clergy engaged in addressing the most pressing social needs in San Mateo County.

MORE ABOUT BRIAN MCLAREN & REV. DR. PENNY NIXON

To learn more about the Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon and hear her sermons go to her church's website, Congregational Church of San Mateo

And for Brian McLaren you can visit his website, follow him on Twitter or pick up one of his many books.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation with Brian McLaren & Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon

• Congregational Church of San Mateo (Penny's Church)
• Brian McLaren (Author, Speaker, Activist)
• Liberation Theology
• Feminist Theology
• Ecofeminism
• Alan Wilson Watts (British writer who interpreted and popularised Eastern philosophy for a Western audience)
• Marcus Borg (American New Testament scholar and theologian)
• The Scofield Reference Bible
• Phyllis Tickle (American Author)
• Get There Early: Sensing the Future to Compete by Bob Johansen (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Woodstock (Music Festival held August 1969)
• Gretta Vosper (An ordained minister of the United Church of Canada who is a self-professed atheist)
• A Secular Age by Charles Taylor (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Discarded Image: An Introduction to Medieval and Renaissance Literature by C. S. Lewis (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Washington Redskins name controversy
• Did Christopher Columbus Seize, Sell, and Export Sex Slaves? (Snopes Article)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter

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Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud

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See Us on Instagram

Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In keeping with the shadow side of Halloween, Jeff, Casey and Rajeev ask the question, what is evil? -- capital E, Evil. Each co-host brings his own, different perspective. Is Evil personal? Is it systemic? Should it be a category at all? Does the Good-Evil binary serve us or harm us? What about the Devil?

Through the conversation, the co-hosts model another E word -- Evolution. Perhaps a conversation on Evil exposes an evolving spiritual/theological journey more than any other concept.

The episode concludes with a rousing rendition of Irenicasting. Listen to hear who gets cast as whom. "Stranger Things" have rarely happened.

Conversation on What is Evil? (00:58)

Segment (45:46)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on What is Evil?

• Process Theology – Being is Becoming – 153 (Irenicast Episode)
• Matthew 18:6 CEB
• Les Misérables
• Irenicast Halloween episodes
• • Halloween and the Supernatural – Paranormal Proclivities – 034
  • The Evolution of Satan – Details in the Devil – 086
  • Are The Witch Hunts Behind Us? – Different Pot, Same Brew – 104
  • Halloween and Heritage – Have Your Soul Cake and Eat it Too – 128
• The Rolling Stones (Band)

From Our Irenicasting Segment (Irenicasting was also played on episode #58)

• Stranger Things (Netflix TV Show)
• The Goonies (1985 Film)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter

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Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

See Us on Instagram

Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Our first Process Theology episode is finally here! We know many of our listeners have been waiting to hear more about this particular theology that was introduced to the Irenicast audience by Bonnie in episode #136. We expect there will be more conversations on this topic to follow. Because, in this episode, we just dip our toes into the realm of possibilities embedded in process thought and theology.

As you'll hear, Process Theology emerges out of Alfred North Whitehead's metaphysics of reality as process which fundamentally contradicts reality as substance. This creates an opportunity for a shift in the way we see God. What if God's everlastingness is rooted in eternal evolution/change? What if the stars are not aligned according to God's purposes but instead they are in constant flux in relationship to God's and each other's processes of becoming? What if God's love for the world is not a controlling love but a vulnerable, receptive love that delights in each one's process of becoming? If we follow the "what ifs", everything changes. You decide if it's for the better.

The episode finishes by engaging in a roller coaster of a round of Would You Rather. Prepare to get weird and thoughtful with a segment that quickly goes off the rails, finds a new track and finally ends with a return to the original track. If that sounds confusing, it is. But also super fun!

Conversation on Process Theology (01:20)

Would You Rather Segment (50:31)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Process Theology

• The Diversity of Christian Theologies – What Straight Old White Guys Don't Tell You – 136 (Irenicast Episode Introducing Process Theology)
• Theism (Theological Term)
• Process Theology
• The Creation of Adam - Sistine Chapel's ceiling
• John Shelby "Jack" Spong (Bishop of the Episcopal Church)
• Process and Reality by Alfred North Whitehead (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Heraclitus (pre-Socratic Greek philosopher)
• Newtonian Physics or Classical Mechanics
• Watchmaker Analogy or Watchmaker Argument (Teleological Argument)
• Charles Hartshorne (American philosopher who concentrated primarily on the philosophy of religion and metaphysics)
• On the Mystery: Discerning Divinity in Process by Catherine Keller (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• 1 John 1 (CEB)
• Rob Bell
• Everything is Connected -- Here's How: | Tom Chi | TEDxTaipei (YouTube Video)
• Process Theology by John B. Cobb (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• From a Broken Web by Catherine Keller (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Center for Process Studies
• Claremont Institute for Process Studies

From Our Would You Rather Segment (This segment has also been played on episodes #011, #053, #080)

• Efforts to Impeach Donald Trump (Wiki)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Thank you for listening to Irenicast! We are so appreciative of those who take the time to thoughtfully listen to our show. If you find value in what we provide there are a number of ways you can support our work.

Contact us! Any feedback from our listeners is so valuable to us. You can contact us through any of the ways listed at the bottom of the show notes, or leave a rating/review on your preferred listening platform.

You can also help support the show financially by donating through PayPal or going to irenicast.com/support to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

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Per listener request, the Irenicast crew takes up the topic of Faith Healing. Surprise! Not every evangelical and/or fundamentalist tradition approaches this topic in the same way. Co-hosts discuss personal experiences with Faith Healing through the filters of their former faith contexts as well as their current faith contexts.

The question of faith leaders using "faith healing" in manipulative or exploitative ways comes up. Because of Allen and Jeff, the bible comes up too. The conversation includes the underlying exploration of what it means to be broken/not well and what it means to be whole/healed. Who gets to decide? The discussion expands beyond the Christian faith tradition and beyond the borders of the United States.

The episode ends with a Good News/Bad News segment. The good news: Irenicast is made famous by the lost city Atlantis. The bad news: Mike Pence wears drag and… it all devolves from there. Extra points for making it all the way to the end.

Conversation on Faith Healing (01:19)

Good News/Bad News Segment (48:44)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Faith Healing

• Does Prayer Work? – Name It, Claim It or Reframe It – 081 (Irenicast Episode)
• Conversion Therapy – Praying the Gay Away – 150 (Irenicast Episode)
• Mark 10:46-52 CEB (Passage discussed about the blind man being healed)
• Benny Hinn (American Televangelist and Faith Healer)
• Trigeminal Neuralgia (Medical Condition)
• Elizabeth Jeffries PhD – Through the Kaleidoscope – 146 (Irenicast Episode)
• Process Theology
• Holy Envy: Finding God in the Faith of Others by Barbara Brown Taylor (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our Good News/Bad News Segment (Good News/Bad News has also been played on episodes #048 & #071)

• Alton Brown (American television personality, food show presenter, author, actor, cinematographer, and musician)
• Good Eats (TV Show)
• J. Kenji Lopez-Alt (American chef and food writer)
• The Food Lab: Better Home Cooking Through Science by J. Kenji López-Alt (Book Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Aquaman (2018 Film)
• Sarah Palin (American politician)
• Michelle Obama (First lady of the United States from 2009 to 2017)
• Joe Rogan (American stand-up comedian, mixed martial arts color commentator, podcast host, and former actor and television host)
• Mike Pence (American politician and Vice President)
• You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman (Song - 1967 single released by American soul singer Aretha Franklin)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

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IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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Rajeev sits down and has a conversation on grief with author Megan Devine. Grief might be the most universal human experience and Megan shares her personal journey to her work as a grief advocate. She provides wisdom into developing one's own grief skills, whether they are needed for personal griefs or to walk into grief with a loved one. As a loving act toward yourself, listen to this conversation and take a look at all of the amazing resources Megan has available. This may be the most practical episode we've ever recorded.

To top it off, Rajeev and Megan play a few rounds of Over/Under. Somehow avocado toast makes another appearance… but that is not the best part. Listen to the end.

Conversation on Grief with Author Megan Devine (01:38)

Over/Under Segment (37:31)

STREET TEAM ANNOUNCEMENT

If you are interested in being a part of our Irenicast Street Team please email us at [email protected] with the "Street Team" in the subject line. We will be discussing more details on Sunday, September 22nd at 4pm PST via ZOOM.us.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Grief with Author Megan Devine

• Megan Devine
• It's OK That You're Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn't Understand by Megan Devine (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Shooting of Stephon Clark (Wiki)
• Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting (aka Parkland Shooting)

From Our Segment Over/Under Segment (Over/Under was also played on Episode #134)

• VooDoo Donuts
• Tom Cruise (American Actor)
• Netflix (Video Rental & Streaming Service)
• Stranger Things (Netflix TV Show)
• Queer Eye (Netflix TV Show)
• The Beatles (English Rock Band)
• Yesterday (2019 Film)
• Rolling Stones (English Rock Band)
• The Smiths (English Rock Band)
• Dead Kennedys (American Punk Rock Band)

THANK YOU MEGAN DEVINE!

A big thank you to Megan Devine for speaking with us this week! If you are interested in following her and her work check out her website RefugeInGrief.com and follow her on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube!

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Thank you for listening to Irenicast! We are so appreciative of those who take the time to thoughtfully listen to our show. If you find value in what we provide there are a number of ways you can support our work.

Contact us! Any feedback from our listeners is so valuable to us. You can contact us through any of the ways listed at the bottom of the show notes, or leave a rating/review on your preferred listening platform.

You can also help support the show financially by donating through PayPal or going to irenicast.com/support to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter

Like Us on Facebook

Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

See Us on Instagram

Support Us on Amazon

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Allen, Casey and Jeff dive into the disturbing notion of "gay conversion therapy", sometimes called "gay reparative therapy". The episode begins with Casey sharing his personal experience with the horrific practice. Allen and Jeff share from their own experiences as straight white guys. All three reveal the influence of religiously institutionalized sexual purity culture and homophobia on their own formations as young men growing up. They each share their process toward seeing beauty and goodness in the entire spectrum of human sexuality.

You might be thinking --- there is no way conversion therapy is still happening. Yet as the co-hosts discuss, there are new forms -- of gay healing, conversion therapy, whatever they are calling it -- rising among various evangelical and fundamentalist Christian communities across the country. Even in the states where it is against the law. And, it's no surprise that young people are the primary targets for this form of spiritual abuse. You'll hear Allen, Jeff and Casey calling out: know where your church stands on this issue and hold them accountable. If "all are welcome" doesn't mean welcome to participate in all of the privileges of membership, then take down the damn welcome sign.

As the episode progresses, Casey encourages all LGTBQ people to find the inner voice that tells them, you are good, beautiful and whole. Allow that voice to become strong and true… eventually the other voices will fade away.

To top it all off, Jeff, Allen and Casey play "What Kind of Gay Are YOU"? Oh yeah, you'll want to listen to the very end.

Conversation on Conversion Therapy (02:02)

Segment (48:43)

STREET TEAM ANNOUNCEMENT

If you are interested in being a part of our Irenicast Street Team please email us at [email protected] with the "Street Team" in the subject line. We will be discussing more details on Sunday, September 22nd at 4pm PST via ZOOM.us.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Conversion Therapy

• Conversion Therapy
• IHOP - International House of Prayer (Charismatic Evangelical Movement)
• Gay Conversion Therapy's Disturbing 19th-Century Origins (Article)
• Born Perfect: The Facts About Conversion Therapy (Article)
• Pulse shooting survivors organize ex-gay 'Freedom March' in Orlando (article)
• This Megachurch Is 'Glamorizing' Conversion Therapy on Instagram (article)
• Changed (Bethel)
• Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (aka DSM)
• Linda Kay Klein Author of Pure - 133 (Irenicast Episode)
• Exodus International
• 2008 California Proposition 8
• The Velvet Rage: Overcoming the Pain of Growing Up Gay in a Straight Man's World by Downs Ph. D., Alan (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Ted Haggard (American Evangelical Pastor)
• Jesus Camp (2006 Film)
• UnErased (Podcast)
• Church Clarity Profile: Hillsong NYC

From Our What Type of Gay Are You Segment

• What Stereotyped Gay Are You? (Quiz Link)
• Rent (2005 Film)
• Latter Days (2003 Film)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Thank you for listening to Irenicast! We are so appreciative of those who take the time to thoughtfully listen to our show. If you find value in what we provide there are a number of ways you can support our work.

Contact us! Any feedback from our listeners is so valuable to us. You can contact us through any of the ways listed at the bottom of the show notes, or leave a rating/review on your preferred listening platform.

You can also help support the show financially by donating through PayPal or going to irenicast.com/support to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter

Like Us on Facebook

Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud

Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group

See Us on Instagram

Support Us on Amazon

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com