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Rajeev and Bonnie interview their good friend in this episode, The Rev. Dr. Horace L. Griffin. Rev. Dr. Horace L. Griffin is an Episcopal Priest and gay man serving St. Luke's Episcopal Church in Atlanta, Georgia as Associate for Pastoral Care and Outreach. He is author of the award-winning book, Their Own Receive Them Not: African American Lesbians and Gays in Black Churches.

The episode begins with Horace Griffin's story of growing up in the Black Church in the Florida Panhandle where, at a young age, he was called into ministry by his community. However, within the Black Church, the calling and Horace's sexuality were in conflict. Horace traces his painful journey of leaving the Black Church and finding a home in the Episcopal Church (the irony is not lost on Horace). The conversation winds through a discussion of Liberation Theology, an update on the progress around inclusion of LGBTQ folks in the Black Church and what it takes to stay in institutional Christianity these days. Stay tuned until the end to discover one of Horace's pastimes. (Here's a hint -- it has something to do with the White House.)

Street Team Announcement (00:11)

Conversation with The Rev. Dr. Horace L. Griffin (03:20)

STREET TEAM ANNOUNCEMENT

If you are interested in being a part of our Irenicast Street Team please email us at [email protected] with the "Street Team" in the subject line. We will be discussing more details on Sunday, September 22nd at 4pm PST via ZOOM.us.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation With The Rev. Dr. Horace L. Griffin

• Rev. Dr. Horace L. Griffin
• Their Own Receive Them Not: African American Lesbians and Gays in Black Churches by Rev. Dr. Horace L. Griffin (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• St. Luke's Episcopal Church in Atlanta, GA
• Chilling Study Sums Up Link Between Religion And Suicide For Queer Youth (Aritcle)
• The Rev. Paul Eknes-Tucker
• Troy Deroy Perry Jr (founder of the Metropolitan Community Church)
• Rev. Kimberly Jackson
• 2008 California Proposition 8 (anti-same sex marriage bill)
• Ebenezer Baptist Church
• I Have a Dream Program at St. Luke's
• Liberation Theology
• Gustavo Gutiérrez (Peruvian philosopher, theologian, and Dominican priest regarded as one of the founders of liberation theology)
• Rosemary Radford Ruether (American feminist scholar and Catholic theologian)
• James H. Cone (American theologian)
• Dwight Hopkins (professor of theology at the University of Chicago and an ordained American Baptist minister)
• Katie Cannon (American Christian theologian and ethicist associated with womanist theology and black theology)
• Delores S. Williams (American theologian notable for her formative role in the development of womanist theology)
• Jacquelyn Grant (American theologian and Methodist minister best known as one of the founding developers of womanist theology)
• Luke 4:18-19 CEB
• Memoir of a Gay Pastor – Closets and Calling – 131 (Irenicast Episode)
• Barbara Clementine Harris (Retired American bishop of the Episcopal Church. She was the first woman ordained a bishop in the Anglican Communion.)
• Vashti Murphy McKenzie (bishop of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, first female to be elected as bishop in the denomination's history.)
• Jeremiah Alvesta Wright Jr. (Pastor emeritus of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago)
• Pat Robertson (American media mogul, televangelist, political commentator, former Republican presidential candidate, and former Southern Baptist minister)
• Michael Bruce Curry MStJ (First African American to serve as presiding bishop in The Episcopal Church)
• Anna Eleanor Roosevelt (American political figure, diplomat, activist and first lady)
• Lorena Hickok (American journalist known for her close relationship with First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt)
• No Ordinary Time: Franklin & Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II by Doris Kearns Goodwin (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama (American lawyer, university administrator and writer, who was the first lady of the United States from 2009 to 2017)
• Daughters of the American Revolution (Organization for women who are directly descended from a person involved in the United States' efforts towards independence)
• Marian Anderson (American singer, one of the most celebrated of the twentieth century)
• Nancy Davis Reagan (American film actress and the wife of Ronald Reagan, the 40th president of the United States. She was the first lady of the United States from 1981 to 1989.)
• Ronald Wilson Reagan (American politician who served as the 40th president of the United States from 1981 to 1989)
• Mary Todd Lincoln (First Lady of the United States from 1861 to 1865)

THANK YOU

Thanks again to the Rev. Dr. Horace Griffin for joining us on this week's episode of Irenicast. Stay up to date on Horace and his work by following him on Facebook and hearing his sermons at St. Luke's.

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You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

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Because the topic is worth repeating, the team is revisiting forgiveness. Previously, way back in episode 73, Jeff and Mel (aka Mona) came to the conclusion that forgiveness and reconciliation are not at all synonymous. This time around, Jeff, Allen, Bonnie and Rajeev explore humanity's need for forgiveness, individually and communally. They consider the relationship between forgiving and "letting go" of harms done or wounds inflicted. This leads the conversation to God's role in forgiveness.

Jeff acknowledges the baggage that words like "forgiveness" and "sin" tend to carry, especially for those migrating out of fundamentalist and evangelical backgrounds, and in Jeff-like fashion proposes taking the words out of circulation. This leads to a short-lived attempt by co-hosts to talk about forgiveness without using the word itself. The only mature solution they find to this ends up with them referring to forgiveness as the "F" word.

If you've wondered about the value of forgiveness, the relationship between forgiveness and power, the constellation of other spiritual resources connected to forgiveness, or how forgiveness and superglue can be used in the same sentence -- you will appreciate this conversation.

The episode closes with each co-host sharing their Staff Picks. Find out what things are currently making the team happy as they discuss film, tv, books, music, knitting and chairs. Yes, you heard that right— Chairs.

Conversation on Revisiting Forgiveness (03:30)

Staff Picks Segment (54:51)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Revisiting Forgiveness

• Forgiving is NOT Forgetting – Doing Wholly Work – 073 (Irenicast Episode)
• Cornel West (American philosopher, political activist, social critic, author, and public intellectual)
• Bishop Desmond Tutu (South African Anglican cleric and theologian)
• Bernie Sanders (American politician)
• Carl Jung (Swiss psychiatrist and psychoanalyst)

From Our Staff Picks Segment

• Blockbuster (American-based provider of home movie and video game rental services)
• Bucket Chairs (Amazon Affiliate Link - Just in case your are in the market)
• Flea Bag (Amazon Prime TV Show)
• The Mothers: A Novel by Brit Bennett (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Knitting (In case you didn't know, now you know)
• Lake Street Drive (Band)
• • Lake Street Dive - 'Lola (The Kinks Cover)' | The Bridge 909 in Studio
  • Lake Street Dive - Good Kisser [Live Performance]
• Hamlet 2 (2008 Film)
• Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO TV Show)
• • Larry David (American comedian, writer, actor, director, and television producer)
• Barry (HBO TV Show)
• • Bill Hader (American comedian, actor, voice actor, writer, producer and director)
  • Henry Winkler (American actor, comedian, director, producer, and author)
• Grosse Point Blank (1997 Film)
• Guava Island (2019 Amazon Original Film)
• By the Book (Podcast)
• Mr. Bean (TV Show)

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Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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Does God Act? In an epilogue to their Community series, Irenicast co-hosts ask and answer the question where they find God showing up in the world. Spoilers: they don't all agree!After a brief discussion on the language we use for God, Casey helps turn the discussion toward the experiential, highlighting the diversity of the team. Eventually this connects to a more theoretical and systematic consideration of divine action, causality, process and a discussion on the trajectory and diversity of progressive thought.

The episode finishes with a new, hilarious segment Praise, Protest, Pray to: a variation of the classic F*ck, Marry, Kill. Each host chose three public or historic personalities and the rest have to determine who they'd praise, protest, etc. Things are said, regrets are had, but in the end hilarity reigns.

Conversation on Does God Act? (02:46)

Praise, Protest, Pray To Segment (54:06)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation Does God Act?

• Previous Episodes in Series on Relationship
• • Intrapersonal Intelligence – From Self Care to Self Aware – 140
  • Family Systems – Our Given Community – 141
  • Deconstructing with Kids – Two Young Adults Tell Their Parents What's Up – 142
  • Chosen Community - Creation, Cultivation & Consent - 143
• Footprints in the Sand (Poem)
• Alister McGrath (Theologian)
• Kurt Vonnegut (American Writer - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Luke 17:11-19 CEB (Story of the 10 Lepers)
• Cracking the Cult Code for Therapists: What Every Cult Victim Wants Their Therapist to Know by Bonnie Zieman (Book Bonnie mentions about the aftermath of high control groups - Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our Praise, Protest, Pray To Segment

• Billy Graham (American Evangelist)
• Rick Warren (American Pastor and Writer)
• James Dobson (Focus on the Family Founder)
• Anne Lamott (America Author - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Brené Brown (Research Professor, Author)
• • The Power of Vulnerability: Teachings of Authenticity, Connection, and Courage by Brené Brown PhD (Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Nadia Bolz-Weber (Author & Speaker - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Martin Luther (Germon Theologian, Protestant Reformation)
• Jan Hus (Theologian & Philosopher)
• • Bohemian Reformation
• Rob Bell (Author & Speaker - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Oprah Winfrey (American Entertainer & Executive)
• Jerry Falwell Jr. (President of Liberty University)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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Elizabeth Jeffries PhD, author of Through the Kaleidoscope, sits down with Irenicast co-host Jeff, bringing forth spiritual treasures out of the world of molecular biology. For anyone seeking to ground their religious affections and theological process in the solid matter of the natural world, Jeffries offers fresh ideas-- herself having navigated a path of deconstruction with an open mind and open heart.

Growing up evangelical, Elizabeth Jeffries was certain about how the world worked. She had an unfalsifiable understanding of scripture, sin, God's will, and the role of women, and she carried this same certitude into her graduate study of cell biology. There, rather than discover the simplicity of the natural world, she instead discovered the simplistic lenses through which she was viewing the world all along.

In her first book, a work of deep reflection and vulnerable storytelling, Elizabeth invites readers to candidly tour her conservative Christian upbringing and the self-condemning doctrines that shaped her identity. With grace and intelligence, she critically engages her past without condemning it. She brilliantly draws from her insights in the laboratory and offers a new set of metaphors from the field of cell biology to help reframe concepts like identity, community, certainty, perfectionism and truth. The result is a rich tapestry of the scientific and the sacred.

Through the Kaleidoscope is Elizabeth's journey through the emergence, maturation, and collapse of the evangelical worldview—as well as her re-enchantment with an inclusive truth too deep and too wide to ever be contained in just one set of religious metaphors.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation with Elizabeth Jeffries PhD

• Through the Kaleidoscope: How Exploring Cell Biology Transforms My Relationship with God by Elizabeth Jeffries (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Molecular Biology
• Horizontal Gene Transfer
• The Martian by Andy Weir (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Cosmology Shapes Our Theology – A Chaotic Journey – 138 (Irenicast Episode)

THANK YOU - ELIZABETH JEFFRIES PhD

A big thank you to Elizabeth Jeffries PhD for being on the show this week. Make sure to keep up to date on all her work on her website http://www.elizabethjeffrieswrites.com. Also follow her on Instagram and Twitter. And of course make sure to get your copy of Through the Kaleidoscope: How Exploring Cell Biology Transforms My Relationship with God

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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CREDITS

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Author Lenny Duncan is the unlikeliest of pastors. Formerly incarcerated and homeless, he is now a black preacher in the whitest denomination in the United States: The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. Shifting demographics and shrinking congregations make the all headlines, but Duncan sees something else at work—drawing a direct line between the church's lack of diversity and the church's lack of vitality. The problems the ELCA faces are theological, not sociological. But so are the answers.

Part manifesto, part confession, and all love letter, Dear Church offers a bold new vision for the future of his denomination and the broader mainline Christian community of faith. Dear Church rejects the narrative of 'church decline' and calls everyone—leaders and laity alike—to the front lines of the church's renewal through racial equality and justice.

It is time for the church to rise up, dust itself off, and take on forces of this world that act against God: whiteness, misogyny, nationalism, homophobia, and economic injustice. Duncan gives a blueprint for the way forward and urges us to follow in the revolutionary path of Jesus.

Lenny Duncan (he/him) is a follower of Jesus Christ and is in a passionate love affair with grace. Lenny spent most of his teens homeless after leaving home at age 13. He has spent time in all 48 contiguous states, sleeping by the side of the highway or in penthouses along the way. He has been a prisoner of war in the so-called war on drugs. After systemic oppression or drugs didn't kill him, Lenny found himself in a strange place: the church.

Lenny has been everything from high school drop out, drug dealer, sex worker, street corner poet, hitchhiker, dharma bum, small town drifter, seminarian, political activists, father, pastor, lover, public theologian, and writer. Now he parties dead sober and thrives in NYC.

In March 2018 the Metro New York Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America issued Lenny a call to serve the people of Jehu's Table as a mission developer (church planter). He is also a frequent voice at the intersection where the cries of the oppressed meet the Church. He pays special attention to Black Liberation movements in his work, but lifts up the many intersections with other marginalized peoples as well. Lenny is a queer pastor and serves as Chaplain to the board of Reconciling Works. believes that the reason the ELCA has remained so white is a theological problem, not a sociological one. He holds a Master of Divinity from United Lutheran Seminary.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation with Pastor & Author Lenny Duncan

• Dear Church: A Love Letter from a Black Preacher to the Whitest Denomination in the U.S by Lenny Duncan (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Lenny's Tweet about TheoBROgians (Tweet)
• The Jesus Jawn (Lenny Duncan's podcast)
• Charleston 9
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer (German Theologian)
• Cost of Discipleship by Dietrich Bonhoeffer (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Philadelphia MOVE Bombings (Wiki)
• Sixteen Candles (1984 Film)
• Better Off Dead (1985 Film)
• John Cusack (American Actor)
• Rev. Jason Chesnut, @crazypastor on Twitter (Lenny Duncan's co-host)

THANK YOU TO AUTHOR LENNY DUNCAN

Thank you to Rev. Lenny Duncan for joining us for this episode of Irenicast! You can find all of Lenny's work at https://lennyduncan.com/. Follow him on Twitter & Instagram and like him on Facebook.

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

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Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

If you didn't get out to your local LGBTQ Pride festivities -- no worries -- this episode is a Pride month celebration. Our own Pastor Casey Tinnin was elected the Grand Marshal of the Sacramento, California Pride Parade. What do you wear when you're the Grand Marshal of a Pride parade? In the first half of this celebration, Casey recounts his experience, internally and externally, of representing and serving his community in Sacramento Pride. In part two of this episode, Casey sits down with author and pastor, Rev. Lawrence T. Richardson.

Rev. Lawrence T. Richardson is an African-American trans man who wears many hats. He is Pastor at Linden Hills United Church of Christ, media trainer with Auburn Seminary, leadership coach with The Center for Progressive Renewal, and a writer for The Salt Collective.​​​ He recently wrote the book, I Know What Heaven Looks Like: A Modern Day Coming of Age Story.

In addition to his new book, Rev. Richardson writes about and advocates for LGBTQ people, people of color and the flourishing of all. His works have appeared in Huffington Post Religion, The Root, Believe Out Loud, The Salt Collective, Rachel Murr's Unnatural: Spiritual Resiliency in Queer Christian Women, Austen Hartke's Transforming: The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians, and numerous other national and international publications. He has also received awards and commendations for his service from Black Transmen, Inc. and the Stellar Awards for his work in global communication.

You will not want to miss this conversation between two men who, through struggle, have found their callings into ministry. The conversation, like Pastor Casey and Rev. Lawrence, is authentic, real, vulnerable and full of testimony to the power of finding Love in God and in people who know how to Love freely and abundantly.

Pride Month Celebration Part One w/ Pastor Casey (01:23)

Pride Month Celebration Part Two w/ Rev. Lawrence T. Richardson (18:03)

PASTOR CASEY'S SPEECH FROM SACRAMENTO PRIDE

My name is Pastor Casey Tinnin, I am the Pastor of Loomis United Church of Christ. I am the founder of The Landing Spot a non religious support group for LGBTQIA+ teens and their adult caregivers, the Co-Founder of Intersections a recovery group for ex fundamentalists and ex evangelicals, and a co-host on the podcast Irenicast. I want to say thank you to the four thousand people who voted for me. It is my deepest honor to be one of your grand marshals.

It recently has been said that the only way forward is for "everyone to be accepted." This is true, however true love and acceptance comes with a deep since of humility and truth telling. Acceptance is not created by back door deals and forced participation. Love and acceptance comes when we are willing to tell the truth of our own lives and to take account of our own actions and how our actions are perceived.

Today, I am aware that as a gay cist gendered Pastor and for many in the LGBTQ+ community seeing a pastor stand before them is triggering. And so this morning I want to say I am sorry on behalf of God and Christianity for the violence that has been inflected upon you. For the ways spoken and unspoken that the message of Christianity has been coopted and used to harm each of us. Sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, body shaming…. I am sorry…

I am also aware of how cis gendered gay men and lesbians have fallen short in their support for the transgendered community. We stand on the shoulders of giants, and it is on the shoulders of those trans women who lead the fight at stone wall that we have any rights at all. But fifty years later it is still trans people, and trans people of color who are still the victims of abuse, hate, murder, infection, suicide, and homelessness. And apart of your suffering is because as cis gendered gay and lesbian people we have been complicit, and for that I am sorry.

Beloved family, the only way forward is together. There is a new wind blowing through this place, and my prayer is that it stirs among us and through our capital, and throughout the nation. We are in trying times, but we can not combat hate with hate, it is only love that can see us forward. Every week I see the boldness and courage of young LGBT teens in the work that I do that are looking for love and acceptance, and it is our job together to make the world a more safe and loving world for them. And in creating that world it will require us to take bold action, like we have seen the Pride Center Staff do. So thank you Pride Center staff… not just for standing up and living boldly this week but every day that you show up for the most vulnerable among us. You have stood with us, and we will stand with you. A powerful wind of change is blowing among us, may we be committed to rolling with it together and continuing to build the arc of justice together. Because the only way we truly rise, is together.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Pride Month Celebration Part 1 - Grand Marshal Casey

• Video of Casey Speaking at Pride (posted by his church, Loomis Basin UCC)
• The Gay Pastor Fighting for LGBTQ Lessons at a Calif. School District (Advocate Article on Pastor Casey)
• Who will lead the Sacramento Pride parade? A pastor, an activist and Ms. Sacramento Leather (Sacramento Bee Article on Pride)
• Tinnin Up for Gay Pride Honor (Article from Pastor Casey's Hometown Paper)
• The Landing Spot
• Ru Paul's Drag Race (TV Show)
• Memoir of a Gay Pastor – Closets and Calling – 131 (Irenicast episode where Pastor Casey tells his story)
• Plans To Protest Sacramento Pride Parade (Video)
• Rajeev's "Straight Pride" Facebook Post
• Stonewall Riots (Wiki)
• GLAAD calls for increased and accurate media coverage of transgender murders
• The Enneagram and Progressive Christianity – Two Two's and A Four Walk Into A Bar – 127 (Irenicast Episode)

From Pride Month Celebration Part 2 - Interview with Lawrence T. Richardson

• Linden Hills United Church of Christ (Rev. Richardson's Congregation)
• Auburn Seminary
• The Center for Progressive Renewal
• The Salt Collective
• I Know What Heaven Looks Like: A Modern Day Coming of Age Story by Lawrence Tanner Richardson (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

• Our Whole Lives aka OWL (comprehensive sexuality curriculum)

• The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• All-male historically black Morehouse College will admit transgender men (article)

THANK YOU

A special thank you to Lawrence T. Richardson for joining us this week. For all things Lawrence T. Richardson visit his website at www.ltrichardson.com. Also follow him on Facebook and Twitter.

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

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In the final episode of the "relational" series, the Irenicast crew reflects on chosen community. We all need a chosen family to do life with. This is especially true for people in marginalized, oppressed groups like those who are LGBTQ+ and are those who minortized because of their race/ethnicity. Co-hosts discuss the formation and cultivation of chosen community, the distribution of power and the nature of consent -- as Allen puts it: it gets meta.

Surprise, surprise, the conversation takes a theological turn. Co-hosts wonder how is God reflecting, acting, creating (or none of the above) in relation to earthly communities of choice? Bonnie cites Jesus, "You did not choose me, I chose you." Questions tumble into the conversation: Is it okay to choose some and not others? How does God act in the world, really? How many ways can we be triggered by God-language? Collectively, Jeff, Allen, Bonnie, Casey and Rajeev decide to defer the God in/as Community to another episode before wrapping up the episode with wisdom from Casey.

Casey reminds us to honor grief as we transition in and out of communal relationships. Growth requires change. Sometimes our chosen community which may have been life-giving for a time can become harmful to our well-being. Navigating a "leaving" of one's community is often fraught with heartbreak and grief while at the same time it can facilitate relief and joy. Perhaps this deep shared experience is what holds the Irenicast chosen family together. We all know something about the complexities of "leaving".

Jeff expresses gratitude to the Irenicast community -- you all -- who tune into the random and sometimes rambling conversations a.k.a. Irenicast podcasts. Thank you. The Irenicast team is humbled and honored to be on this sometimes crazy journey with you.

Pinky swear -- this will be your only chance to hear the segment, "That's Not My Name". Rajeev shares a little bit about his personal reclamation of his name, Rajeev, before the segment devolves into the revelation of everyone's Pretentious Folk Singer name.

Chosen Community Conversation (01:05)

That's Not My Name Segment (52:23)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Chosen Community

• The Series SO far
  • Intrapersonal Intelligence – From Self Care to Self Aware – 140
  • Family Systems – Our Given Community – 141
  • Deconstructing with Kids – Two Young Adults Tell Their Parents What's Up – 142
• LGBT culture in San Francisco
• HIV/AIDS in the United States
• The Woman Who Cared for Hundreds of Abandoned Gay Men Dying of AIDS
• "Third places" as community builders
• John 15:16 Common English Bible (CEB) - You didn't choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you could go and produce fruit and so that your fruit could last. As a result, whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you.
• Matthew 12:48 Common English Bible (CEB) - Jesus replied, "Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?"
• Lisa Jane Miller (professor, researcher and clinical psychologist, best known as a research scholar on spirituality in psychology)
• Pose (TV Show)
• "The moment goodness knows itself, some of it is lost" -C.S. Lewis

From Our 'That's Not My Name' Segment

• Childish Gambino (aka Donald Glover)
• The Pretentious Folk Singer Name Generator
• Wu-Tang Names Generator

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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Parenting is hard, but deconstructing with kids adds an extra layer to the hard. Some parents feel the need to reform fundamentalist/evangelical Christian values into progressive Christian values. Other parents want to distance children from conservative Christianity by raising children outside of religious faith. Still other parents jerk the family back and forth as they figure it out. Because, maybe spiritual migration doesn't happen in a straight line.

In this episode co-hosts Bonnie and Rajeev Rambob interview their young adult children, Julian and Nik Rambob who share their perspectives on what it was like to move out of fundamentalist Seventh-day Adventism as kids. This move especially impacted family life and identity since Bonnie and Rajeev were educators in the SDA K-12 school system. Julian and Nik were students. Family life centered around church, church, church.

When Bonnie and Rajeev, on differing timelines, began to experience the questions which led to an unraveling of faith, their sons' world shook. They lost everything they knew, their friends and their own existential certainties. From their vantage point on the other side of transition, Julian and Nik share concrete insights on how parents can accompany children during family faith shift.

As they recollect, Julian and Nik analyze the fundamentalist circles of their childhood. Their critique includes the observation of arrested state of development and a resistance to the pursuit of actualization. But there is hope when family is rooted in genuine love for one another.

To close out the episode the Rambob family play a game of "Jesus Juke". This game proves --despite Rajeev's and Bonnie's seminary training, you'll rather hear Julian or Nik preach.

Announcements (00:09)

Conversation on Deconstructing with Kids (01:25)

Jesus Juke Segment (46:45)

ANNOUNCEMENTS

Our very own Pastor Casey Tinnin has been nominated to be the Grand Marshal of the Sacramento, California Pride Parade. Please consider supporting Casey by voting for him HERE.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Deconstructing with Kids

• Parenting During Deconstruction - Nurturing the Spiritual Child and Adolescent - 129 (Irenicast Episode)
• Seventh-day Adventism
• Hannah Arendt (American Philosopher)
• Natural Theology
• Pragmatism
• Naturalism
• Pluralism

Jesus Juke Segment (Jesus Juke has also been played on episodes #003, #039, #075, #096, #104 (Horror Movie Trope Edition), and #123)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Rajeev loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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CREDITS

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It gets real as the Irenicast team talks about one's given community -- or family of origin-- as family systems rather than a collection of individuals. Thinking about family as a system impacts the way we think about ourselves in relation to family members. Family relationships can be especially hard to navigate when one's views of the world are very different from other family members' views.

Post-evangelicals know this all too well. Looking through the lens of Murray Bowen's Family Systems Theory, co-hosts, Allen, Bonnie, Casey, Jeff and Raj offer multiple perspectives on navigating complicated family relationships while protecting oneself.

The discussion covers a broad range of relational topics such as: adjusting expectations, staying connected when it's hard, triangulation, fusion, overfunctioning/underfunctioning, cultural diversity and more.

The episode ends with a game of Title Me This which transported our co-hosts back to their Evangelical childhoods -- wooo, scary! If you spend any time wondering how you are going to make through the next holiday dinner or gathering with your given community, this episode may offer you pre-dinner food for thought.

Conversations on Family Systems (02:08)

Title Me This Segment (53:42)

ANNOUNCEMENTS

Our very own Pastor Casey Tinnin has been nominated to be the Grand Marshal of the Sacramento, California Pride Parade. Please consider supporting Casey by voting for him HERE.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Family Systems

• Family Systems Theory
• Freudian Psychology
• Murray Bowen (American psychiatrist)
• Family Therapy in Clinical by Murray Bowen (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Luke 15:11-32 Parable of the Prodigal Son
• Brady Bunch (TV Show)
• Adams Family (TV Show)
• Malcolm in the Middle (TV Show)

From Our Title Me This Segment (Title Me This has also been played on episode #055 & #083)

• Chris Tomlin (CCM Artist)
• Pat Barrett (CCM Artist)
• Tuck Everlasting (2002 Film)
• Good Good Father by Chris Tomlin & Pat Barrett (Book - Amazon Affiliate LInk)
• The Poisonwood Bible: A Novel by Barbara Kingsolver (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Mystery at the Hot Pond by David DeVowe (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• I'm Not a Scaredy Cat: A Prayer for When You Wish You Were Brave by Max Lucado (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Adventures in Odyssey (Evangelical Radio Drama Series)
• Terror in the Tunnel by Marianne Hering (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Raj Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Raj loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Raj on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

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Conceptualizing the self, building intrapersonal intelligence, becoming aware of our interconnectedness, reclaiming self-love in theological context, moving beyond platitudes about self-care, and more mix in this week's conversation. Officially kicking off our series on relationships, the team begins with that person nearest and dearest to us - our own selves. A game of Desert Island rounds off the discussion and reveals the personalities of our co-hosts.

Our Conversation on Intrapersonal Intelligence (01:11)

Desert Island Segment (50:43)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Intrapersonal Intelligence

• Glide Memorial United Methodist Church
• Julius Henry "Groucho" Marx (American comedian, writer, stage, film, radio, and television star)
• 9 Types Of Intelligence
• Thích Nhất Hạnh (Vietnamese Buddhist monk and peace activist, founder of the Plum Village Tradition)
• The Enneagram
• Family Systems Theory
• Original Blessing: Putting Sin in Its Rightful Place by Danielle Shroyer (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• To Know as We Are Known: Education as a Spiritual Journey by Parker J. Palmer (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Frames of Mind: The Theory of Multiple Intelligences by Howard Gardner (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Blog worthlessness http://anirenicon.com/2019/02/23/church-and-codified-feelings-of-worthlessness/
• Blog mystical experience http://anirenicon.com/2019/03/14/i-floated-in-a-sensory-deprivation-tank-on-valentines-because-im-dramatic/
• Cosmology Shapes Our Theology – A Chaotic Journey – 138 (Irenicast Episode)

From Our Desert Island Segment (This segment was also played on Episode #079)

• Survivor (Reality Competition)
• Gilligan's Island (TV Show)
• Cast Away (2001 Film)

YOUR SUPPORT

Thank you for listening to Irenicast. If you appreciate the show please consider sharing your appreciation by rating, reviewing and/or subscribing to the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, or whatever platform you're listening on.

You can also help support the show financially by going to irenicast.com/amazon to do your Amazon shopping. This will cost you nothing, but Amazon will give a portion of the proceeds to the show.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

Allen is a venerator of emotionality. He thrives on education, peace, and interconnectedness— passions which permeate his work as pastor, writer, lover of all the things, and occasional vegan.

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

As a pastor, activist, educator, mom, and possibility artist, Bonnie invites people into newness. She loves climbing trees, knitting and hiking while conversing with friends about smashing the patriarchy.

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

Preacher, protester, everybody's pastor. Casey geeks out on comic books, talking theology, politics, and sex. He's most free when he is dancing, cooking with his partner Jose, or walking their dog Kole.

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Chaser of tales and climax initiator, Jeff rises to the occasion, edging to a satisfying completion. Get your mind out of the gutter, we're talking story, not sex. Jeff expresses his creativity by curating diverse ideas, energies and people.

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Raj Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

Raj loves thoughtful and provocative conversation over food and drink, most often with his family. He's a loyal, smart-ass friend who believes in the power of spiritual journeys. Feminist, Anti-colonial, Process Theology-nerd.

You can follow Raj on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Follow Us on Twitter and Google+

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com