Irenicast - A Progressive Christian Podcast

Since we've been gone a lot has happened in the world. An election, an insurrection, a vaccine, a new president, and a whole lot of the same old crap in the world. Things have also changed for the hosts of Irenicast. A lot of personal and professional shifts in addition to planning new stuff for Irenicast. In this come-back episode, we will be discussing all things Irenicast as we move forward into a new era of the show. We hope that you continue with Irenicast as we unpack the notions of Deconstruction and Reconstruction over the next several episodes.

Thank You, Allen (01:02)Upcoming Episode Preview (03:22)Intersections (03:35)Since We've Been Gone - 2020/21 Year in Review (07:21)Thank You (13:04)More Coming (15:37)

ANNOUNCEMENTS

A new virtual Intersections group will be starting Wednesday, August 18th at 7pm PT for 6 weeks every Wednesday night. Intersections is a group of un-fundies and ex-vangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Gatherings are facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, and Rajeev. REGISTER HERE to be a part of our next Intersections group.

Sign up here for our email list and get regular updates on episodes, courses, and new sessions of Intersections.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Since We've Been Gone

• Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (First Irenicast Episode with Bonnie, Casey & Rajeev)
• Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) - Beyoncé
• 1+1 - Beyoncé
• White Supremacy in Evangelicalism – Hidden in Plain Sight – 170 (Irenicast Episode)
• Haystacks (Bonnie & Rajeev's Podcast)
• Divine Cinema (Jeff's Podcast)
• The Enneagram and Progressive Christianity – Two Two's and A Four Walk Into A Bar – 127 (Irenicast Episode)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expenses related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com.

Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music was created by Mike Golin.

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What Does Christmas Mean to You? Join the hosts of Irenicast as they ponder the birth narrative, and the multiple ways that the story of Jesus' birth has been told and understood over the years.

Jeff invites the team to consider what Christmas means to them this year. The conversation begins with each of the cohosts pondering what it has been like to try to find Christmas cheer in 2020. The conversation slowly moves from finding cheer into a discussion about how each cohost interprets the story of Jesus' birth. Bonnie invites the team to recognize the importance of birth narratives and the centering of children and women's voices.

Before the episode finished the team shares some news about the future of the podcast. Irenicast will be taking a short hiatus to focus on the next phase of the show. But not before leaving you with some Christmas cheer via a brand new virtual mix tape in the closing segment, Playlist.

Conversation What Christmas Means To You (02:52)

State of the Podcast Special Announcement (46:03)

Segment Top Three Christmas Songs of 2020 (57:43)

ANNOUNCEMENTS

Irenicast is going on a break for the first few months of 2021. Please make sure you stay up to date on what we're preparing upon our return! The best way to do that is to sign up to our email list.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on What Does Christmas Mean to You?

• American Gods (STARZ TV Show)
• Magnificat, Luke 1:46-55 NRSV
• Christopher Nolan (American Film Maker)
• Batman Begins (2005 Film)
• The Dark Knight (2008 Film)
• The Dark Knight Rises (2012 Film)
• Australia Fires
• Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth by Reza Aslan (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Above All by Michael W. Smith
• Literary Criticism
• Sojourner Truth (American abolitionist and women's rights activist)
• Neo-Calvinism

From Our State of the Podcast Update and Upcoming Break

• Sign Up for Our Email List
• Haystacks
• The Queerly Faithful Pastor
• Divine Cinema

From Our Playlist Segment

• Playlists from Past Episodes
• • An Angry Journey (Irenicast Playlist)
  • Protest Songs (Irenicast Playlist)
• Irenicast Christmas 2020 Playlist on Spotify
• • All I Want For Christmas by Mariah Carey
  • Blue Christmas by Elvis
  • A Charlie Brown Christmas - O Tannenbaum
  • O Holy Night by Patti LaBelle
  • Home Alone Theme by August Burns Red
  • White Christmas by Bing Crosby
  • Hippopotamus for Christmas by Gayla Peevey
  • The Christmas Song by Nat King Cole
  • O Come O Come Emmanual by the Civil Wars
  • I Wish It Was Christmas Today by Cheap Trick
  • Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays by *NSYNC
  • Christmas in Hollis RUN DMC
  • The Season's Upon Us by Dropkick Murphys
  • Waltz of the Flowers
  • What Child is This by Yolanda Adams
  • Christmas Blues Traveler
• A Song From SNL: I Wish It Was Christmas Today - SNL (YouTube Video)
• Home Alone (1990 Film)
• Christmas Shoes Bit by Patton Oswalt

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen "The Mouse King" O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MDiv, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Discovering your authentic self is something that can seem like a vague or cliche notion. Is there a balance between authentic inner life and authentic communal life? Where are the tensions? What does it even mean to be your authentic self? These are some of the questions explored in this episode as Allen, Bonnie, Jeff & Rajeev discuss the difficult task of figuring out our place in this insane world.

Self awareness and our relation to one another become prominent talking points during this conversation. Self reflection, along with a solid community, can be powerful allies in our journeys toward peace about who we are and what we are becoming.

The episode closed with a new segment called One of These Things IS Like The Other. A game where two things are compared to a completely different thing. Don't worry, when you listen it'll make a lot more sense.

Conversation on Your Authentic Self (00:51)

Segment (47:39)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation Your Authentic Self

• Keeping It Real Can Go Very Wrong - Chappelle's Show (YouTube Video)
• A Hidden Wholeness: The Journey Toward an Undivided Life by Parker Palmer (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Brene Brown (Research Professor, Author, Podcaster)
• Pema Chödrön (American Tibetan Buddhist)
• Parenting – Simple Word, Infinite Implications – 173 (Irenicast Episode)
• Be Right Back (Black Mirror Episode)
• Maslow's hierarchy of needs
• The Guest House by Jalaluddin Rumi (Poem)
• Lojong (Mind Training Practice in the Tibetan Buddhist)
• Spiral Dynamics

From Our One of These Things IS Like the Other Segment

• Taylor Swift (Pop Artist)
• Six Flags Magic Mountain

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In response to a listener question about God's immutability, all five co-hosts discuss a changing God. The conversation begins with the God of the bible before it turns toward the God of human experience. Co-hosts reflect on the groups that might benefit from a fixed or static God and those groups that might benefit from a God who is impacted (and therefore changed) by a relational life with creation.

Rajeev wonders about God ideas as connected to the ego. The conversation includes an exploration of various God narratives and systems. Are there "right" ideas about God? To close, Bonnie proposes consideration of how a changing God opens up an uncertain future. Now what? Co-hosts agree. They may need to follow-up with another episode.

If you can take in a few other calamities (real and unreal) to round out 2020, listen to the end to hear the segment: Church Signs. It turns out coming up with a creative church sign is harder than it sounds.

Conversation on Changing God (00:51)

Church Signs Segment (48:20)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Changing God?

• Open & Relational Theology
• Irenicast Roundtable – The Art of Oversharing – 135 (Irenicast Episode)
• Creeds
• Ontological Argument was proposed by St. Anselm of Canterbury
• Augustine of Hippo
• Martin Luther
• John Calvin
• Moral Truth – Relative or Reality? – 166 (Irenciast Episode)
• Gnostic Gospels
• The Truth Series (Irenicast Episodes)
• • What Is Truth? – Spilling the Capital Tea – 165
  • Continuing the Conversation on Episode #165 – What is Truth – 165b
  • Moral Truth – Relative or Reality? – 166
  • Continuing the Conversation on Moral Truth – 166b
  • Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev's Three R's – 167
  • Continuing the Conversation on Who Tells the Truth – 167b
  • Changing Truth – An Ever Evolving Journey – 168
  • Continuing the Conversation on Episode #168 - An Ever Evolving Truth - 168b
• Alfred North Whitehead
• Carl Jung
• Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev's Three R's – 167 (Irenicast Episode)

From Our Church Signs Segment

• The End of the World As We Know It? – Arma-gettin' It On – 045 (Irenicast Episode)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Follow Us on Twitter

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

The episode begins by framing some language around stages of spiritual development. Co-hosts take a trip down memory lane as they dig up developmental language from their former faith communities and from broader American culture. The conversation continues with the inclusion of helpful models as well as critiques of developmental theory. While discussing spiral dynamics and various approaches to understanding development, co-hosts agree - no approach to human or spiritual development is universal.

The conversation turns to the ways we internalize shame in relation to our interpretation of the progress we are making toward some idealized goal. Allen brings in Sam Keen's model of growth stages outlined in his book The Passionate Life. This leads to further insights on levels of consciousness, moving forward and backward, existential crisis, individual versus communal movement and how it all may be related to an acceptance of finitude.

In the final stage of this episode, co-hosts play a lively game of Classy and Trashy. Because, you know, that's how we shake our booties. (It will make sense if you listen to the end.)

Conversation on (00:00:50)

Segment (01:03:43)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Stages of Spiritual Development

• 1 Corinthians 3:2 NRSV (Meat & Milk Passage)
• Spiral Dynamics
• Eugenics
• Enneagram
• Charles Hartshorne (American Philosopher)
• Erik Homburger Erikson (German-American Developmental Psychologist and Psychoanalyst)
• St John of the Cross
• St Teresa of Avila
• The Passionate Life: Stages of Loving by Sam Keen (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Before a fatal shooting, teenage Kenosha suspect idolized the police (Article)
• Bundy Stand Off
• On the Mystery: Discerning Divinity In Process by Catherine Keller (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Death of the Mythic God: The Rise of Evolutionary Spirituality by Jim Marion (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Kenneth Earl Wilber II (American Philosopher)
• Robert Kegan (American Developmental Psychologist, Author, and Consultant)

From Our Classy or Trashy Segment

• Austin Channing Brown (Author)
• Author Austin Channing Brown – I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness – 118 (Irenicast Episode)
• U2 (Band)
• Coldplay (Band)
• Mumford and Sons (Band)
• Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988 Film)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

All five co-hosts grab some tea, full of compassion for one another, to talk about awakening compassion. The conversation begins with definitions and connections to spirituality. Since everyone thinks compassion is a good thing, co-hosts wonder how we become more compassionate. By awakening? By watering a seed inside of ourselves? Through training?

The conversation turns to a Christianity informed by compassion. Allen brings Tibetan Buddhism and tonglen breathing practice into the space. Bonnie brings in an Orthodox Christian breathing practice. Connecting breath and compassion, co-hosts discuss the possibility of a compassion-centered Christianity. It turns out compassion is a rather divisive, controversial idea within Christianity. Co-hosts' formation and evolving Christian identity become exposed in interesting ways. Co-hosts realize the effects of being formed within Christianity communities that disavow Christ's vulnerability and woundedness are still present in them.

The episode closes with a rousing round of Sound Charades. It's obvious the cups of tea (and perhaps, compassion) have grown cold as co-hosts compete to the bitter, disputed end.

Conversation on Awakening Compassion (00:59)

Sound Charades Segment (55:12)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation, Awakening Compassion

• The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe by Richard Rohr (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Saint Francis of Assisi (Wiki)
• Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time: The Historical Jesus and the Heart of Contemporary Faith by Marcus J. Borg (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Tonglen
• Matthew 25:31-46 NRSV - The Sheep and the Goats
• Park J Palmer (American author, educator, and activist)
• Wage Peace by Judyth Hill (Poem)
• Start Where You Are: A Guide to Compassionate Living by Pema Chodron (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)

From Our Sound Charades Segment

• Word Generator

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter

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See Us on Instagram

Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store

Love Us?

CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Casey and Bonnie have a heart to heart on the topic of abortion. They begin by sharing their experiences with abortion, planned parenthood, anti-choice protestors and sexuality education. Casey shares his mom's story. Bonnie shares her own. Co-hosts take an incredulous look back in time at the attitudes about abortion they inherited from their formative evangelical and fundamentalist Christian communities. Bonnie and Casey consider the opportunistic way the oppressive forces of male supremacy and patriarchy infused with American evangelical Christianity after Roe v. Wade.

Using biblical references, co-hosts propose a basic moral framework to ground an actual "pro-life" stance rather than an "anti-choice" stance when deciding whether or not to continue a pregnancy. Bonnie insists that it is safe for society to trust women with their own uteruses. Casey agrees. To close the episode, co-hosts lament the legacy of shame so many women who chose abortion continue to live with.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Abortion

• Donald Trump's Track Record with Reproductive Rights
• John 4 NRSV (Woman at the Well)
• John 8:1-11 NRSV (Woman Caught in Adultery)
• The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism by Katherine Stewart (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Power Worshippers: A look inside the American religious right
• Governor Reagan Signs Liberal California Abortion Law
• Equal Rights Amendment
• Jesus Camp
• The Strange Bedfellows of the Anti-Contraception Alliance (article)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

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At the terrific suggestion of a listener, the Irenicast crew takes up the Atonement Doctrine for round 2 in Atonement Theology Revisited. The episode begins with each co-host picking up from where we left off in Episode #59 - Why Did Jesus Die? The conversation does not last long before the question of Sin enters the room. Then co-hosts explore how Jesus' death on the cross fits into the theological categories of Sin and Atonement.

The conversation meanders through the lineage of Western Christianity which dealt us the inheritance of a particular understanding of Atonement in which violence becomes sanctified. Co-hosts continue by connecting White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Militarism, and Policing to a neat and tidy, albeit violent, vision of one bloody sacrifice for all. Co-hosts reconstruct the Passion story sans Atonement doctrine before each describing the evolution of their own Atonement Theologies.

The episode closes by bringing back the segment: Sort of Scattergories. You might be surprised at how lint finds its way into the darndest places.

Intersections Announcement (00:39)

Conversation on Atonement Theology Revisited (02:07)

Sorta-Scattergories Segment (57:58)

INTERSECTIONS - Registration Opens Wednesday, September 16, 2020

Intersections is brave space where ex-vangelicals and unfundies come together to have spiritual conversations about their experiences of unraveling faith. Intersections is facilitated by Irenicast co-hosts, Bonnie Rambob, Casey Tinnin and Allen O'Brien, who have been there and get it. In community, participants will process, evaluate, feel, support and be supported.

• Session 1 -- My Story Meets Your Story
• Session 2 -- God and the Bible
• Session 3 – Me, Myself and I: Relationship with Self
• Session 4 -- Purity Culture and Sexuality
• Session 5 -- Spiritual Trauma and Grief
• Session 6 -- Gratitude for the Journey

New Intersections Group forming now: Thursdays, October 8 – November 12, 5:00-6:30 PM, PST. Space is limited. $120 for the whole series. (If that is a hardship, please let us know.)

You can REGISTER HERE, starting Wednesday, September 16, 2020

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation Atonement Theology Revisited

• Why Did Jesus Die? – Standing at the Foot of Atonement Theology – 059 (Irenicast Episode)
• Don't Understand This Sean Feucht Controversy? Stop Talking & Listen (Article)
• What is Sin ? – Dun Dun Duuunn – 015 (Irenicast Episode)
• Alfred North Whitehead (Process Theologian)
• The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James H. Cone (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Matthew Shephard
• Call and Consequences: A Womanist Reading of Mark by Raquel Annette St. Clair (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• Satisfaction Theory of Atonement (Made Popular by Anselm of Canterbury)
• Ruby Nell Sales (African-American Social Justice Activist)
• Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev's Three R's – 167 (Irenicast Episode)

From Our Sorta-Scattergories Segment

• Kim's Convenience (Netflix Show)

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

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IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

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Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

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In this interview Casey draws out wisdom carried by his friend Tenneson Woolf. Tenneson is a consultant, facilitator, workshop leader, coach, teacher, and writer. Keeping an eye on our collective global pandemic experience, Casey and Tenneson talk religion, human spirituality, and questions of who we are and who we want to be. They acknowledge profound challenges stirred up by the novel coronavirus and wonder about the gifts those challenges, courtesy of the virus, might have to offer us.

The conversation includes an indepth look into the formation of Tenneson's most recent book, A Cadence of Despair: Poems and Reflections on Heartbreak, Loss and Renewal. Together Casey and Tenneson explore the contours of despair and its close cousin: shame. Tenneson offers insights, lessons and liberation found within the courageous descent into dark, closed, fearful interior spaces. As Tenneson says, "Humans find medicine there." The episode ends with a beautiful, honest and resonant poem from Tenneson's book along with Tenneson's reflection.

This is an episode that will feed you as well as require something of you… all of it reaching toward our deepest spiritual yearnings.

THANK YOU TENNESON WOOLF

Tenneson Woolf is a consultant, facilitator, workshop leader, coach, teacher, and writer. His work over 20+ years has been to design and lead meetings in participative formats. From strategic visioning with boards to large conference design to communities just learning to listen again to one another.

His education background includes an undergraduate degree in psychology and a graduate degree in organizational behavior. His work lineages include The Berkana Institute with Margaret Wheatley, The Circle Way with Christina Baldwin and Ann Linnea, and The Art of Hosting with Toke Moeller and Monica Nissen.

Originally from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, Tenneson now lives in a small town where urban meets rural, Lindon, Utah, on the traditional lands of the Utes and Goshutes, in a high desert valley at the foot of the Wasatch Mountains.

To learn more about Tenneson Woolf and his work check out his website, TennsonWoolf.com. You can also follow him on Facebook and Twitter.

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation with Tenneson Woolf

• Tenneson Woolf's Website
• Human to Human Podcast with Casey Tinnin — Pastor, Community Activist, Friend (Casey's appearance on Tenneson's podcast)
• Quanita Roberson – Grief, Healing and Hope – 169 (Irenicast Episode)
• The Fire and Water Podcast (Tenneson Wolf and Quaninta Roberson's podcast)
• A Cadence of Despair: Poems and Reflections on Heartbreak, Loss and Renewal by Tenneson Woolf (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
• The Power of Vulnerability: Teachings of Authenticity, Connection, and Courage by Brené Brown PhD (Amazon Affiliate Link)

CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION

As a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation. This will be an opportunity to give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode. We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST on Facebook Live and YouTube Live.

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

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CREDITS

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In this episode, Jeff, Bonnie and Rajeev take on the topic of parenting. They begin with their definitions of parenting before moving into the struggles of parenting. Co-hosts notice how parenting children often triggers a return to the parent's own process of growing up. They reflect on the grief involved in the transitions from one stage of the child's development to another. Co-hosts consider the influence their parents' parenting-style has had on their own, for better or for worse. They discuss the need to shed expectations of their kids as well as themselves as parents. Because... mistake-making is classic parenting, and yet because we love our truly amazing kids, we trust they will be okay.

The episode includes a deeper dive into the stage of parenting through adolescence. Of course adolescence cannot be discussed without talking about youth group and all the axillary parents -- pastors, teachers, coaches, aunties, uncles and others -- that primary parents rely upon as collaborative parenting partners. As with adolescence, co-hosts observe parenting as a time for significant theological/spiritual growth and discovery.

In keeping with the times, co-hosts share their thoughts about schooling during a time of pandemic. The pandemic lens seems to shine brightly on the many ways the American education system could use reform.

On the other side of the music, Jeff, Bonnie and Rajeev share their all-time favorite family TV shows. Gather up the kiddos. Pop the popcorn. We got your next family show viewing experience covered.

Conversation on Parenting (01:15)

Top 3 Segment (53:23)

RELEVANT LINKS

From Our Conversation on Parenting

• Deconstructing with Kids – Two Young Adults Tell Their Parents What's Up – 142 (Irenicast Episode)
• Defund the Police? How About Defunding the Schools Instead?

From Top 3 Our Segment

• Bob's Burgers (Fox Animated Sitcom)
• Little House on the Prairie
• Married with Children
• The Best Sitcom of the Past 30 Years, Round One: The Cosby Show vs. The Simpsons
• Ugly Betty
• Smallville
• Good Times
• One Day at a Time Remake
• Community
• Black-ish
• Gentefied
• All in the Family
• Transparent
• The Carmichael Show

CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION

As a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation. This will be an opportunity to give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode. We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST on Facebook Live and YouTube Live.

SUPPORT THE SHOW

You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.

PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).

MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.

AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you.

IRENCAST HOSTS

Rev. Allen O'Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn.

Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | [email protected]

You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC

Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org

Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | [email protected]

Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.

Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | [email protected]

You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:

Read Us on our blog Irenicon

Email Us at [email protected]

Follow Us on Twitter

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Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud

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See Us on Instagram

Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store

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CREDITS

Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.

This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com