On this Monday, Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are back from New York to break down the Browns' 27-20 loss to the Jets.

With other NFL coaches getting fired, they start by answering a Football Insider subscriber's question about Kevin Stefanski's job security. Mary Kay explains why she believes Stefanski is safe for now, but Dan wonders if the ugly loss to the Jets could change the thinking in Berea.

Then, they dive deep into the quarterback situation. Mary Kay makes her case for why the Browns should stick with Dillon Gabriel, giving him more time with new play-caller Tommy Rees.

They discuss the struggles of the offense, from sacks and penalties to a lack of continuity with injured players. How long is Gabriel's leash before the team turns to Shedeur Sanders?

Finally, they look at the bigger picture, discussing how the evaluation of the rookie quarterbacks this season ties into the Browns' expected plan to draft a franchise quarterback in 2026 and why the final eight games of this season are still crucial for the coaching staff and the organization.

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