This week, I’m joined by Sarah as we dive deep into the idea of “life as a test.” Why does this phrase feel so heavy, and is there a better way to view our existence? We wrestle with gospel culture, expectations, and the pressure to get everything “right”—from church checklists to phrases like “multiply and replenish the earth.” Is test really the wrong word for what we’re doing here, and how much does accountability play in our growth?

But the real heart of our conversation is about purpose, influence, and agency. Is our purpose a single, narrow goal—or does it change and expand throughout our lives? Sarah and I explore how the sweet nuggets of gospel living emerge not from passing tests, but from personal development, becoming, and enriching others’ lives. Whether it’s through talents, kindness, or simply “being,” we look for new language and perspectives that bring hope instead of pressure.

Come along for this honest exchange, and let’s rethink what fulfillment and growth mean in our journey of faith. If you’ve ever struggled with feeling “enough” or wondered if your impact mattered, this episode is for you.

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