On this episode of It's Complicated, we talk with magician and actor Daniel Fernandez and Grey’s Anatomy’s Sarah Utterback about whether love is an illusion or the real deal, why you shouldn't feel shame when you answer "Not yet," and why sometimes you may want a Ferrari over a Camry when it comes to dating. Daniel performs a LIVE magic trick and blows our minds, while we sip our nightcap The Medicinal Mule!

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Twitter: @sarah_utterback

Instagram: @misssarahutterback

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Twitter: @danfer22

Instagram: @danielfernandez

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