Writer Lyz Lenz joins us for a brutally honest conversation about what it really takes to survive the creative economy. From maxed-out credit cards to a New York Times bestseller, we talk about money shame, dental debt, raising kids without a safety net, and why community, not success, is the real measure of a good life.

If you want to hear more from our conversation with Lyz Lenz, including the very chaotic, very real story of what it actually felt like to hit the New York Times Bestseller list, head over to ⁠patreon.com/pastdue⁠.

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