I spoke with US commentator and author David Pakman, host of the wildly popular progressive YouTube channel, The David Pakman Show. David just published a new book, "The Echo Machine: How Right-Wing Extremism Created a Post-Truth America". It's extraordinarily rare for a left-leaning figure to accept my invitation to come on the show and have a conversation, and I'm grateful David did. Our conversation was civil, respectful, and engaging.

We dove into the state of America, with David sharing his views on the left, right, and MAGA. We tackled major issues—from the Trump administration's strategy to Elon Musk and the future Tesla stock.

The David Pakman Show (TDPS) started as a radio show called Midweek Politics in the basement of community radio station WXOJ's studio in Northampton, Massachusetts. Today, it is one of the most watched independent progressive podcasts and online shows.

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