Hello filmmakers and welcome to the film school. We're going to talk about 360 video today and working with it and the pitfalls, the advantages and the the difficulties therein. Um because let me tell you there are many many difficulties. So, I've been working with 360 for quite a while as a music teacher um and more recently as a landscape um a way of recording landscape really for my paintings and other work that I do, my dance and things. So, it really the the concept of 360 was never as um a you know a creative artistic concept on its own. It was usually to support something else. It was a bit of a workhorse actually. and I've used a GoPro. So, I don't I haven't used any other um 360 cameras, so I can't really comment on those. But you know the whole issue with 360 the the wonder of it is that you can when in the edit it's like you've got you know 80 cameras pointing in all directions you know and you can get all this you can you know use your tech to just go into wherever you want as long as it was viewable. You some things are hidden because there there's something in the way. So, for example, if you want to do a bit of 360 footage, but you don't want yourself in it, you can go and put it somewhere and run away. That's what I've been doing. Um, which is quite amusing. And then you just cut off the beginning bit in the end where you go to to pick up the camera. Um, so you can get some really good garden effects doing that. You really don't want yourself in it. This is if you're not going to edit it. If you edit your 360 footage, you can edit it so that you're never in it. Do you see what I mean? Your hand's never in it or or you know the edge of the the camera or the edge of your cap or whatever it is. But if you don't edit it, if you're just uploading like I'm doing now to YouTube, then you know the idea of not having yourself in it is quite attractive because I'll tell you what, you won't get a good view of yourself unless you're exceptionally beautiful from underneath the chin, which I'm just not. Um so that's the you know just a couple of sort of uh the the physicality of working with 360 you know the the importance of that or the benefits of it. The the downside is sometimes your 360 in fact quite often even if it's cal calibrated you've got a line going across where the 360 um meet where the where the where where the 180 where the front camera meets the back camera. So, that can be a bit annoying actually. Um, especially if you're doing you, you know, you're attempting to do something really immersive and really clear perhaps in a sporting environment or something. Um, so really the biggest thing I found, the hardest thing is is to do with size and the the weight of these movies is, you know, it's so heavy. Now, I always remove the sound. Up until now, I've removed the sound. That doesn't mean I will always remove the sound. If I was doing a gig, I wouldn't I would keep the sound in. I'd want that. It's better not to speak. When I go out photographing, which I do once a week or filming, I go with my brother and we're always mumbling in the background. Well, it's not even in the background. If I've got the camera quite close to me, you know, it's picking up my duels tones and we're usually talking rubbish. So, so you don't really want that in it. So, I would recommend that if you're trying to get something that's truly immersive and realistic, just, you know, don't be tempted to talk and then you can include the the audio. Um, so I always mute them anyway. And I what I do now when I was doing music lessons, I would film, you know, a whole music lesson on the GoPro. um up until I think 8 minutes it automatically uh reshoots on the GoPro and I'm not sure if that's in um uh yeah I think it in in all I think it just does that even if you're just using you know the front view camera I'm pretty sure although I can't swear on it maybe not but every 8 minutes there's a an end of one section and a start of another so that's a bit annoying actually. Um, but anyway, now I I'm literally doing very small clips because, you know, an immersive view for a for a client or for a uh you know, somebody who's looking on YouTube, they don't need hours of it because everything's there in in 10 seconds. you know, the entire view and they can just go keep going over it, zooming in, zooming out, you know, just pinch with their fingers on their phone, um, or iPad, whatever you're using, and move things around. So, actually, the average clip I think I do is about 20 seconds. Some are less, some are more. So every time I go to a sort of new situation if you like so you know beyond a fence or beyond a wall or you know where where the views changed quite a lot then I'll press record and do that and so it goes on and I usually end up with you know a lot of very short recordings and what that does is it it means that the the recordings aren't individually too big. I think the maximum upload for YouTube is around 56 megabytes if I remember rightly. And so you're well within that with a with a 10 or 30 second clip. So that's pretty good. Um they do compress it a bit on YouTube. Um which is, you know, I had this idea that that would be quite good because then when I downloaded it, it would have been already compressed. It's got all the metadata, etc., etc. But it it nothing would be that simple. When you upload your 360 to YouTube, you can only download it as a an MP4 flat two-dimensional uh piece of footage. So, that's no good. So, you know, I'm uploading to Gumroad at the moment for my members because we're offering free um rushes for members to, you know, play around with and make their own art from hopefully. Um, and I can't do it via all those films. I've got about I think I've got about 36 films up already. That's just in two weeks. There's an awful lot of footage, an awful lot of heavy footage, but I can't download it uh in 360. So, I've got to re-upload it directly from my quick software. And the quick software is what I use um for the GoPro. It's their own in-house software package. I don't like it to be honest. I I'd prefer something else. And I've had this GoPro for quite a long time. So I may think about, you know, going for a different camera simply because I hate the software. I really don't like it. Um there's lots and lots of other software which I've played around with and I prefer, but we'll talk about that in another show. Um, so yeah, basically you've got if you're doing something like I'm doing on Gumroad, you then you miss out that YouTube middleman. You don't need it at all. If you're wanting to show a free version and a paid version, then that's what you know that's what you got to do. Now, the other really good thing that you can do with 360, and I have actually, I believe, sold one piece of stock 360. I It's not my bag. I very rarely I can't be bothered with all that. I mean my brother is uh that's his sort of you know that's what he does stock photography but he does stills. He doesn't do moving image. Um but they will take I think around about 10 seconds and they're happy with they don't really want much more. Um and there's a there is a weight limit as well to that but as far as I know they don't compress it. um that I'm talking about Pawn Five here and Alam and all of these places. All of my footage eventually could be be stock available, but it's not really what I want to do. I'm much keener to to sell it myself on my own platform individually. Um so you you you know, you have to make sure that your platform can deal with um what you're uploading and what you're downloading. And um I mean I haven't done a gum tree yet, but I'm I'm pretty sure I'm all right. Yes, I did check I did check that at least. Um, so yeah, I mean the biggest thing is is the time that you're going to spend not actually doing the footage. This is really interesting. You know, normally you you spend a bit of time setting up your camera, you know, making sure everybody's all right if you're doing a bit of video. Um, or everyone's posing if you're doing a a bit of, you know, a real for Instagram or something. Um, and then you do a quick edit and it's up and bang and that's it forgotten. But not with 360. With 360, it's going to take 20 minutes to upload it. It really is very, very slow process. And if YouTube's busy or your bandwidth isn't very good, you know, your internet connection, etc., um, it's going to take even longer. I mean, I've had them where they taken an hour, you know, just for a sort of 60-second clip. And you just think, blime me. Um, that's not usual. That was very unusual. And I think it was peak time. And um you know, I mean, I I use not just Wi-Fi, I use an an Ethernet as well um if I've got a lot of stuff and in the hope that it'll be a bit quicker, but I haven't actually found that it is. Um not marketkedly anyway. It's a bit more reliable because it doesn't cut out like Wi-Fi does. Wi-Fi quite often will, you know, suddenly cut out for no good reason. probably something to do with the neighbors doing something like, you know, um using my Wi-Fi. I don't I'm sure they're not. I hope they're not. Um they probably are. I mean, people do that, don't they? But maybe that's why sometimes it's so slow. Oh, maybe I should look into it. Anyway, I'm not particularly worried. Um so, and the and the other thing, of course, is if you're doing it with Wi-Fi and you're you've got, you know, the kids TVs are on, your TV's on. um everyone's using their phones and everyone's using the Wi-Fi, then it it's going to be a bit sluggish. So, it's quite a good idea to do them at night, you know, overnight even. You could, you know, just press upload and and go and do something completely different. Go out, you know, if if you feel confident about that. There's not much that can go wrong when you're just trying to upload a film. Um so, yeah. Yeah. Um, when you upload to your 360 to YouTube from Quick, the Quick app, um, you can, you k
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/iservalan-film-frame--5932843/support.
Immersion Static — sci-fi, music & 360° art by Sarnia (iServalan).
Watch: https://youtube.com/@taletellerclub
Join: https://bookofimmersion.com
Support: https://taletellerclub.bandcamp.com
Shop: https://redbubble.com/people/taletellerclub
Art: https://saatchiart.com/sarnia
Kids: https://youtube.com/@taletellerclubkids
