Well, he's been on every other podcast this year so Ismail Vali finally decides it's time to slum it with Fintan and Jon on the Gaming Recruitment Solutions-sponsored The Gambling Files podcast. In the intro, Jon gets everything wrong [0:00 - 19:47] and then Ismail comes on and we talk Yield Sec, what they do, how it works, black, grey and white markets, and lots of other things [19:48 - 1:16:49]. Jon solves money laundering as an issue, we remember a largely forgotten Michael Douglas film, and, well, you know how it goes.