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In the latest episode of The Line Podcast, recorded on May 2, 2025, Matt and Jen debrief the end of a long, weird federal election — and everything it upended.

They start with what surprised them about the results and how the political map has scrambled in unexpected ways. Then, naturally, they pivot to constitutional monarchy. Why? Because it works. And because Matt is now on a mission to figure out how he can see the King when he comes to Ottawa to deliver the Speech from the Throne. He’s serious. He wants in. He'll wave little flags and everything.

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In segment two, Jen is furious about new legislation introduced by Alberta Premier Danielle Smith to lower the threshold required to trigger a referendum. Jen calls it chickenshit — and dangerous. She argues it opens the door for grifters and bad-faith actors to manipulate the process and vulnerable people. Matt wonders why the Alberta NDP is doing nothing with this gift-wrapped opportunity. And seriously: where is Naheed Nenshi? What, exactly, is he waiting for?

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Finally, your hosts turn to the fate of Pierre Poilievre. With the party licking its wounds, will a leadership fight break out? And if it does, will The Line take sides? No — but we will sell weapons to, and publish op-eds from, all factions. That is our declaration. We're just here for the content. So Conservatives? Fire up those typewriters. 

All that, and more, in the latest episode of The Line Podcast. Like and subscribe at ReadTheLine.ca, or find us on your favourite podcast app so you never miss an episode. If you’re enjoying the show, share it with a friend, post about it online, or shout it across a pub. That's what we do.

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