The NDA podcast It's Always Media Thursday has broken new ground by being published on an actual Thursday. NDA Editor Justin Pearse and Publisher Andy Oakes once again take a gentle stroll through a week in the digital marketing and media industry.

This week we're joined by special guest Brand Advance CEO EMEA Deborah Gbadamosi, one of NDA's favourite people at one of our favourite companies and a judge at the NDA Heroes awards.

In a kind-of NDA Heroes Awards special episode, we discuss the awards, the value of industry awards, Deborah's starring role in Emu's World, and her new role leading Brand Advance in EMEA.

And of course, the welcome return of IAMT's What's On the Desk game.